General Yuzuru Chat

[Dreamer]

2 hours ago, Geo1 said:

 

WTF! That little tiny Japanese flag that I didn’t even notice until you mentioned it? And what’s wrong with having your national flag on anything? Americans and Canadians proudly display the stars and stripes and maple leaf all the time. There’s nothing wrong in being proud of your country and waving the flag.

 

This smacks of the JSF President, Seiko Hashimoto (now Olympic minister), getting in her digs. She had an unhealthy affection for Daisuke Takahashi and hates Yuzu.

 

When I saw the picture, I thought the caption might say: “Yuzuru Hanyu wonders why the creepy big guy is following him so closely.”

 

I agree, when their clothing has a big "Japan' emblazoned on it for all the official ISU comps....so what is the big deal? smh

JSF also does not own the 'rights' to the Japanese flag either

[SuzyQ]

On 2020/5/31 at 午前1時40分, FlyingCamelさんが言いました:

 

Woah... I knew Yuzu increases ticket sales but I never knew it was by THIS much!!! Is there even any other skater with similar influence? (Yuna? Mao? Plushenko?)

 

Also I can't read this... does anyone know what this is about?

 

 

 

This was originally based on a ridiculous fake news in 2015 when Yuzuru used this face mask with a logo featuring a Japanese national flag.

In Japan, there is a certain number of people who do not like Japanese national flag (Hinomaru) blaming it is a symbol of Japanese militarism or imperialism which I personally do not believe the existence nowadays here in Japan. 

And the logo of the face mask was just a logo, but Yuzuru was involved in the criticism without noticing. Maybe he was too famous to evade it.  And it was said that JSA did not protect him and just told him to refrain from wearing the national flag when it is not an official occasion (I could not confirm this news myself at that time, so I cannot say whether it was true or not).  And he removed the logo, maybe wanted to avoid to be misunderstood.

 

And recently, this face mask maker was involved again in another fake news when the government ordered masks for healthcare professionals to several companies.  Although they were not the candidate company, a newspaper used a picture of their masks with the logo in the article by mistake, and they were criticized awfully through SNS or other ways, being suspected that they have connections with the government, and finally they decided to suspend the production of the mask.  It's really ridiculous 

 

https://toyokeizai.net/articles/-/64436?page=3

 

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/51112e46f18bbbfcf91753252518fa15fcd055e8

 

P.S. Oh, @sweetwater thank you 

 

 

[Fay]

Gosh, it’s complicated... 

[SitTwizzle]

9 hours ago, IULIANA said:

OMG, I should realise more often that the ISU and its judges are indeed people like this one ! Every medal ceremony, every official moment of any competition, when I see the people who evaluate and decide over the athletes` performances (and appearance, more so!), offering the medals and proudly taking pictures with the exhausted beautiful in every way winners, it gives me sort of strange vibes... How on earth some one like the one in this video has the power to dictate and  put an official stamp on somebody like, say Yuzuru, when it is clear as the day light they belong to waaaay different league, if not even species, if you know what I mean!... And don`t give me the expertise speech, we see every single time that`s mostly major BS covering politiking and God knows what petty obscure undetectable interests, I mean undetectable from the normal logical POV! You may color me shallow or whatever, but I just cannot shake this off at all. 

This particular judge just followed ISU rules. And the "purple pants" had no transparency.

In fact, she was also the judge who gave good marks to Surya Bonaly or Yuka Sato and globally, refused politicking.

17 hours ago, rockstaryuzu said:

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I was thinking of exactly that today. I'm glad he's not here to see it, I feel like he would be very upset. On the other hand, we lost him much too soon.

 

/end non- yuzu topic

I rather regret he could not see the program skated to its perfection. Did he give an opinion upon its first season?

[Fay]

Someone did some statistics on Wikipedia search - can you guess who’s been the most popular skater since 2015? 

 

[rockstaryuzu]

Spoiler

3 hours ago, sweetwater said:

So... this tweet is a response made by a misunderstanding to a drama caused by misunderstanding. Can we just ignore?

 

 

Absolutely, but thank you for the explanation.

[Sombreuil]

I’m happy to ignore, but so many groups of every possible political stripe worldwide are using this crisis to make capital out of unrelated happenings that it just makes me so frustrated  -   one can never stop people who are committed to grinding their particular axe.

[rockstaryuzu]

3 hours ago, SitTwizzle said:

I rather regret he could not see the program skated to its perfection. Did he give an opinion upon its first season?

Prince passed away in April 2016, so he had died before Jeff and Yuzu put the program together (LGC premiered in Sept 2016). So he never saw it. However, I do believe that recently, a spokesperson for Prince's estate did comment favorably on Yuzu's interpretation of the song. Unfortunately I can't find the quote back, though.

[fyere0]

1 hour ago, Fay said:

Someone did some statistics on Wikipedia search - can you guess who’s been the most popular skater since 2015? 

 

 

Sometimes, I forget just how hugely famous Marin Honda is.....  

[FlyingCamel]

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Thank you everyone who answered my question and gave such clear explanations!! Again I’m a relatively new Fanyu so there are many things I still don’t know haha

 

Found someone who translated Yuzu’s handwritten message on page 127 of the Ice Jewels season photobook to Chinese and I’ll try my best to translate to english with my limited abilities:

 

 

”During the 2019-2020 season, everyone supported me with all their strength, thank you very much!

Thanks to everyone’s support, I could welcome the end of the season without great pain.
To “Yuzuru Hanyu”, what exactly is “figure skating”? I previously had days when I questioned myself like this.

But, after revisiting all different kinds of programmes, I realized once again, such programmes are created because it is exactly those moments that create such programmes (T/N: not sure what exactly he means here, and I’m not sure how to word it nicely in English, but I personally think it means every different moment back in time creates each programme)

As for the 2020-2021 season, exactly what form it will take, I don’t know too to be honest.

But no matter what happens, I will carry feelings and emotions unique to each moment, and skate to the end with all my ability!

April 21, 2020

Yuzuru Hanyu”

 

Not exactly the best translation since it’s Japanese —> Chinese —> English but I tried my best to stick as closely as possible to the Chinese translation and again there are some parts I don’t exactly know how to word nicely... hope the meaning doesn’t get butchered too much with my bad translation skills haha

If anyone has a better translation/can do a better job at translating it will be good too!

 

[TallyT]

Thanks to Fay's post, I spent the whole morning messing with that wiki stats thing, and came up with some recent totals. I don't know how to cut for length, if it's a nuisance can someone help me?

 

Wikipedia hits since 1/1/2019 for all the skaters I thought to check who were over 400,000 (note this is just their specific page, no linked ones)

Yuzuru Hanyu - 2,455,145 (ja 1,215,346; eng 614,746; zh 227,196; ru 150,796)

Alina Zagitova - 1,769,588 (ru 801,591; ja 453,508; en 349,314; de 29,181)

Nathan Chen - 1,296,431 (ja 752,254; en 418,990; zh 46,171; ru 38,286)

Evgenia Medvedeva - 1,214,063 (ru 488,879; en 345,715; ja 249,657; es 25,595)

Marin Honda - 776,768 (ja 715,439; en 38,279; zh 11,414; ru 4,781)

Rika Kihara - 898,447 (ja 703,803; en 114,519; ru 50,942; zh 17,062)

Alexandra Trusova - 807,686 (ru 299,427; en 239,767; 182,235; de 18,223)

Shoma Uno - 632,297 (ja 432,513; en 126,583; ru 29,994; zh 19,009)

Alena Kostornaia - 625,969 (ru 238,247; en 184,958; ja 166,072; de 7,587)

Anna Shcherbakova - 502,197 (ru 169,865; en 167,532; ja 119,703; zh 16,372)

Alysa Liu - 430,132 (en 378,961; zh 17,349; ru 15,851; ja 15,659)

Elizaveta Tuktamysheva - 419,661 (ru 214,202; ja 102,442; en 83,265; es 3,561)

 

To give an idea of how current and older stack up

Evgeni Plushenko - 799,642 (ru 316,127; en 152,557; ja 150,500; it 37,913)

Mao Asada - 772,316 (ja 601,238; en 94,291; zh 23,082; ru 21,646)

Yuna Kim - 678,114 (en 293,622; ja 123,467; ko 91,383; ru 50,983)

Michelle Kwan - 654,794 (en 533,828, ja 37,786; zh 20,931; ru 18,096)

Tessa Virtue - 591,063 (en 418,074; ru 27,429; fr 24,802; ja 24,113)

Javier Fernandez - 442,306 (es 149,538; en 112,372; ja 66,959; ru 53,809)

Daisuke Takahashi - 393,975 (ja 319,584; en 37,179; ru 24,060; zh 4,589)

 

Wikipedia hits since 1/1/2020 for the same current skaters

Yuzuru Hanyu - 649,846 or 4304 per day (ja 283,284; en 174,956; zh 73,554; ru 37,314)

Alina Zagitova - 316,755 or 2098 per day (ru 132,519; en 77,923; ja 59,850; de 8,759)

Evgenia Medvedeva - 229,982 or 1523 per day (ru 81,743; en 74,957; ja 37,273; es 7,158)

Nathan Chen - 201,287 or 1333 per day (en 107,782; ja 60,998; zh 11,369; ru 10,923)

Marin Honda - 199,100 or 1319 per day (ja 184,267; en 8,913; zh 3,799; ru 887)

Alexandra Trusova - 186,603 or 1236 per day (ru 64,668; en 63,880; ja 26,275; de 7,216)

Alena Kostornaia - 162,414 or 1076 per day (ru 63,404; en 57,168; ja 24,946; de 3,693)

Rika Kihira - 145,108 or 961 per day (ja 101,389; en 24,627; ru 9,141; zh 6,816)

Shoma Uno - 119,280 or 790 per day (ja 77,631; en 26,711; zh 4,705; ru 4,143)

Anna Shcherbakova - 116,009 or 768 per day (en 42,647; ru 40,022; ja 17,995; zh 4,610)

Elizaveta Tuktamysheva - 62,777 or 416 per day (ru 31,945; ja 14,825; en 11,251; es 878)

[Purple]

2 hours ago, FlyingCamel said:

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Thank you everyone who answered my question and gave such clear explanations!! Again I’m a relatively new Fanyu so there are many things I still don’t know haha

 

Found someone who translated Yuzu’s handwritten message on page 127 of the Ice Jewels season photobook to Chinese and I’ll try my best to translate to english with my limited abilities:

 

 

”During the 2019-2020 season, everyone supported me with all their strength, thank you very much!

Thanks to everyone’s support, I could welcome the end of the season without great pain.
To “Yuzuru Hanyu”, what exactly is “figure skating”? I previously had days when I questioned myself like this.

But, after revisiting all different kinds of programmes, I realized once again, such programmes are created because it is exactly those moments that create such programmes (T/N: not sure what exactly he means here, and I’m not sure how to word it nicely in English, but I personally think it means every different moment back in time creates each programme)

As for the 2020-2021 season, exactly what form it will take, I don’t know too to be honest.

But no matter what happens, I will carry feelings and emotions unique to each moment, and skate to the end with all my ability!

April 21, 2020

Yuzuru Hanyu”

 

 

 

On the 2nd paragraph, what he means is similar to the last paragraph.

To paraphrase : " The programs were created to convey the thoughts and emotions of that specific/unique time"

What he felt at the period of time when the programs were choreographed was what produced the programs, he may or may not feel the same way now.

 

Using the same concept, programs for upcoming new season will be made.

 

On side note, on a broader perspective he could be referring to the programs he has over the years. Which he did a snippet of each in the JSF video.

The Yuzu of RJ1 in 2012 is different from Yuzu performing RJ1 in 2014 at WC exhibition. The Yuzu of PW in 2014 Olympics is different from the Yuzu performing PW at Skate Canada 2019.

 

** My chinese is "half pail full" only.

[monchan]

10 hours ago, Fay said:

Someone got that photo book already...

 

They've alr been sold in Jpn bookstores nationwide for quite a few days. June 1st is only released day for online buying.

[Fay]

11 hours ago, Fay said:

Someone got that photo book already...

 

This post has a picture of Yuzu’s message if that’s any help to anyone. 
And there’s a glorious Yuzu+Javi picture here. Along with the famous phone case. 

 

[barbara]

1 hour ago, Fay said:

This post has a picture of Yuzu’s message if that’s any help to anyone. 
And there’s a glorious Yuzu+Javi picture here. Along with the famous phone case. 

 

I want that phone case.