Team Russia

[yuzuangel]

2 hours ago, mercedes said:

honestly this makes our quarantines days pretty entertaining....and Plushi really LOL

 

if you want to try....I got 9 out of 10 

https://www.buzzfeed.com/eurolifetrash/how-well-do-you-know-russian-fs-drama-9wj09qk02j?utm_source=dynamic&utm_campaign=bfsharetwitter&quiz_result=124835670_370869876&rid=370869876#124835670

I also got 9/10

 

1 hour ago, rockstaryuzu said:

I got 7 out of 10. My total lack of interest in the Alina drama did not serve me well here. 

Alina also seemed totally disinterested in "her" drama, lol

 

ETA:

 

 

ETA x2:

 

Tbh before this drama, I had NOT heard of Sergey Rozanov AT ALL. And now i'm learning he's responsible for all the quads and 3As?! Which, tbh, Eteri gets ALL the credit for? No wonder he wants to leave! I read this interview (https://sport24.ru/news/other/2020-05-07-yevgeniy-plyushchenko-intervyu-o-perekhode-aleksandry-trusovoy-i-sergeya-rozanova) (credit for translation from this post @ Medvedeva Nation):

 

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Meanwhile Plushy gave an interview 

- Evgeni, whose initiative was the transfer of Alexandra Trusova to your team? 
- The initiative was purely of the athlete! Nobody drove anyone or lured from other trainers and schools. Now there is an open window for the transfers of athletes. We are now preparing documents for processing the transition to the Moscow Federation, the Russian Figure Skating Federation and SAMBO-70, where Sasha Trusova was and is currently listed. In general, now we are officially engaged in the paperwork. It is just that we are signing them, preparing them, and when the quarantine ends, we will submit them.

We will also meet with the federation, we will communicate with Kogan, Gorshkov. I will talk about our future plans and preparations for the season, where we will conduct training. We have already begun to look for choreographers. I do not exclude that there will be a foreigner for both short and free programs. The process is running. We communicate with Sergei Rozanov about the programs, we have already chosen music. I repeat, the athlete herself made this choice, yes, she is 15 years old, but she is already experienced. Trusova has already passed more than one tournament, not one big tournament. Sasha won serious titles, so she has the right to make a decision if she is uncomfortable training in a group or with a coach. Trusova has the right to choose herself with whom to work and in what conditions. We will work in the same group with Sergei Rozanov. We are ambitious and have plans. As for my show, it will be a minimum that will not overlap with competitive activity. That is, the season ends, and I take part in some exhibitions. If there are windows, then I can also decide to participate. But it will be at a minimum.

- How long has it become known that Trusova and Rozanov will be with you? 
- Long enough. We did not talk about this, but this is a balanced decision, Sasha as an athlete, and Seryozha as a coach. We didn’t decide from the bay. All are already quite adult people, Sasha will be 16 years old already in June. Of course, her parents will sign everything for her. But it seems to me that the athlete herself has the right to decide where it is more convenient for her to train. I think the federation will also support us and give permission to work with Sasha and Seryozha.

- You said that Sergei Rozanov will have his own group at your academy. Do you know who will be included in it? 
- Serezha Rozanov will be a full-fledged coach at my academy. Nobody will push him into some backyards, he will go out at competitions, he will lead his group with me. It will be a single team and structure. Those trainers who work for me today will be working with their athletes, and Sergei has his own group and his athletes. What athletes? We will tell you later.

- What tasks will you set for Trusova? 
- First of all, I want to say that I have my own academy, which I have been managing completely for a year and a half. It has more than 120 people. Before middle-class athletes came to me, and they came to the academy, and not for me to lead them. At present, I have created my groups, which I lead and work with them every day (2 trainings, general physical training, special physical training). I removed most of the shows last year. Now I am set for coaching. As for working with Trusova, we are young and daring, so we set the task of becoming the first at the World Championships, Europe and the Olympics.

- Trusova - the most important challenge in your coaching career? 
- Of course. This is an athlete with a worldwide reputation. Yes, she has not yet won the World and European Championships, but she has everything ahead. I hope we will realize her dream. The challenge is very serious. I very carefully approached the issue of her coaching. I will be forced to abandon some of my shows, tours, and demonstrations, and I will train Alexandra, work with her, we can say 24/7. 

- Some fans remember your battle on social networks with Tutberidze. Have you let go of that story? 
- Generally I let go of the situation. I myself am not the first to attack anyone, I only defend myself. And when I defend myself, I do it very painfully. I immediately told Alexandra and her parents that you need to part with everyone diplomatically, competently, humanly. Call, meet, wish good, thank you for the work done. The work was really gigantic. coaching changes happen, athletes also left me. Yes, they were not the top, but the situation was similar. No one is safe from this, this is a great sport. Athletes have the right to make choices about what suits whom.

At one time, Yagudin and Kulik switched to Tarasova from Mishin and Kudryavtsev, respectively, and there were a lot of such transitions. Trusova understands that more work needs to be done on skating skills, on components. We also understand this very well and will do it. All forces in all formats and aspects will be attracted and involved. I can afford and finance different specialists. I hope that we will also have a federation on our side, which should and must help the athletes who are members of the Russian team and give hope for first places in all top tournaments. I think we will succeed. Now we are making documents that must be made by law. We also need to meet with the president and director of the figure skating federation. After that, the transition will be concluded. So far we are in the process.

- Tutberidze’s words didn’t hurt you? Do not you think that in the near future you will have a confrontation, like the “Real” and “Barcelona”? 
- When I started my school, I started from the bottom, with the initial training of athletes. I immediately said that if I start to do something, I will always achieve my goal. So it was when I was an athlete. I still have character, willpower, working capacity. Therefore, we will bring everything to conclusion and to mind. My school will be top-notch. It’s good that there is competition. This is a normal story. And it is necessary to prove not by talking, but by the deeds, their athletes and programs, results. I am not tuned to talk, I am tuned to the result. To the words of Tutberidze I am absolutely neutral.

 

 

Honestly I have never seen him or heard about him, and I'm sure that's a big reason why he is leaving Eteri. And it looks like the skaters are following, because they know that he was the one who helped them achieve quads. 

 

As for the second bolded, it sounds like Plushy is willing to abandon some of his shows just to coach her? Well, if he's telling the truth and not just what she wants to hear, this may be good for Sasha indeed. To have a dedicated coach instead of being one of a half dozen top skaters fighting for her coach's attention.

[Veveco]

6 minutes ago, yuzuangel said:

Alina also seemed totally disinterested in "her" drama, lol

 

The teenagers involved in these drama seem to have much more maturity than the adults, somehow.

[sallycinnamon]

29 minutes ago, Fay said:

This is brilliant - shall we play for a while? 

I insulted Averbukh because I wanted to skate to Sex Bomb! 

 

I betrayed Gorshkov because the ghost of Alois Lutz told me to.

 

It sounds dark lol

 

26 minutes ago, yuzuangel said:

I also got 9/10

 

Alina also seemed totally disinterested in "her" drama, lol

 

ETA:

 

 

ETA x2:

 

Tbh before this drama, I had NOT heard of Sergey Rozanov AT ALL. And now i'm learning he's responsible for all the quads and 3As?! Which, tbh, Eteri gets ALL the credit for? No wonder he wants to leave! I read this interview (https://sport24.ru/news/other/2020-05-07-yevgeniy-plyushchenko-intervyu-o-perekhode-aleksandry-trusovoy-i-sergeya-rozanova) (credit for translation from this post @ Medvedeva Nation):

 

Honestly I have never seen him or heard about him, and I'm sure that's a big reason why he is leaving Eteri. And it looks like the skaters are following, because they know that he was the one who helped them achieve quads. 

 

As for the second bolded, it sounds like Plushy is willing to abandon some of his shows just to coach her? Well, if he's telling the truth and not just what she wants to hear, this may be good for Sasha indeed. To have a dedicated coach instead of being one of a half dozen top skaters fighting for her coach's attention.

 

Yes, Rozanov was one of the coaches who was responsible for quads, 3A. I am curious what will happen to Kostornaya who said she worked with Rozanov very well (her 3A was thanks to him).

And yes, It sounds Plush wants to do less shows, and focus more on coaching/competitions.

 

It really makes me think that something is going on with Eteri.The first source which said Eteri barely has contact with her students online also raises questions...especially that she's so far away from Russia.

[sallycinnamon]

Interview with Volkov:

 

https://sport24.ru/news/other/2020-05-07-trener-volkov---o-perekhode-trusovoy-ne-dumayu-chto-u-plyushchenko-yest-tsel-sorevnovatsya-s-tutberidze

 

Trainer Volkov - on Trusova’s transition: “I don’t think Plushenko has a goal to compete with Tutberidze”

Alexander Volkov, Academy coach Evgeni Plushenko, shared his expectations of working with Alexandra Trusova after her departure from the group of Eteri Tutberidze. Volkov coached Trusov before her transition to Tutberidze.

 

“We ended up working with Trusova four years ago. Since then we have not talked.

 

I am pleased about Trusova's transfer to Plusheko. Will I work with her? Each athlete has the right to decision. Trusova needs more stable quadruples. Still need an emphasis on skating, because if she fails the jumps, she gets on the second mark lower than Kostornaya and other girls. And, of course, a triple axel.

Still, adult skating is slightly different from youthful, it should be more feminine.  Trusova was given the disposition to jump, here it is necessary to improve the cleanliness, glide quality, and beauty of her skating.

If the child decided to go, then there is no catch. I do not think that Plushenko has a goal compete with Tutberidze. He does his job, and does it well.

I think Trusova will be the number one because she will be the strongest athlete in our group. Do I want to work with her again? Of course, it'd be interesting. Time will tell, working towards this." 

[Paskud]

36 minutes ago, yuzuangel said:

I also got 9/10

 

Alina also seemed totally disinterested in "her" drama, lol

 

ETA:

 

 

ETA x2:

 

Tbh before this drama, I had NOT heard of Sergey Rozanov AT ALL. And now i'm learning he's responsible for all the quads and 3As?! Which, tbh, Eteri gets ALL the credit for? No wonder he wants to leave! I read this interview (https://sport24.ru/news/other/2020-05-07-yevgeniy-plyushchenko-intervyu-o-perekhode-aleksandry-trusovoy-i-sergeya-rozanova) (credit for translation from this post @ Medvedeva Nation):

 

 

Honestly I have never seen him or heard about him, and I'm sure that's a big reason why he is leaving Eteri. And it looks like the skaters are following, because they know that he was the one who helped them achieve quads. 

 

As for the second bolded, it sounds like Plushy is willing to abandon some of his shows just to coach her? Well, if he's telling the truth and not just what she wants to hear, this may be good for Sasha indeed. To have a dedicated coach instead of being one of a half dozen top skaters fighting for her coach's attention.

Kostornaya said that Rozanov is (now was) her favourite coach and it's him who taught her 3a.

 

Also, outside of Trusova looks like only Zhilinas are leaving. So it's not like suddenly most skaters run away.

[TallyT]

1 hour ago, Fay said:

This is brilliant - shall we play for a while? 

I insulted Averbukh because I wanted to skate to Sex Bomb! 

 

I badmouthed Eteri because revenge is best served cold.

 

[rockstaryuzu]

1 hour ago, yuzuangel said:

I also got 9/10

 

Alina also seemed totally disinterested in "her" drama, lol

 

ETA:

 

 

ETA x2:

 

Tbh before this drama, I had NOT heard of Sergey Rozanov AT ALL. And now i'm learning he's responsible for all the quads and 3As?! Which, tbh, Eteri gets ALL the credit for? No wonder he wants to leave! I read this interview (https://sport24.ru/news/other/2020-05-07-yevgeniy-plyushchenko-intervyu-o-perekhode-aleksandry-trusovoy-i-sergeya-rozanova) (credit for translation from this post @ Medvedeva Nation):

 

 

Honestly I have never seen him or heard about him, and I'm sure that's a big reason why he is leaving Eteri. And it looks like the skaters are following, because they know that he was the one who helped them achieve quads. 

 

As for the second bolded, it sounds like Plushy is willing to abandon some of his shows just to coach her? Well, if he's telling the truth and not just what she wants to hear, this may be good for Sasha indeed. To have a dedicated coach instead of being one of a half dozen top skaters fighting for her coach's attention.

 

26 minutes ago, sallycinnamon said:

Interview with Volkov:

 

https://sport24.ru/news/other/2020-05-07-trener-volkov---o-perekhode-trusovoy-ne-dumayu-chto-u-plyushchenko-yest-tsel-sorevnovatsya-s-tutberidze

 

Trainer Volkov - on Trusova’s transition: “I don’t think Plushenko has a goal to compete with Tutberidze”

Alexander Volkov, Academy coach Evgeni Plushenko, shared his expectations of working with Alexandra Trusova after her departure from the group of Eteri Tutberidze. Volkov coached Trusov before her transition to Tutberidze.

 

“We ended up working with Trusova four years ago. Since then we have not talked.

 

I am pleased about Trusova's transfer to Plusheko. Will I work with her? Each athlete has the right to decision. Trusova needs more stable quadruples. Still need an emphasis on skating, because if she fails the jumps, she gets on the second mark lower than Kostornaya and other girls. And, of course, a triple axel.

Still, adult skating is slightly different from youthful, it should be more feminine.  Trusova was given the disposition to jump, here it is necessary to improve the cleanliness, glide quality, and beauty of her skating.

If the child decided to go, then there is no catch. I do not think that Plushenko has a goal compete with Tutberidze. He does his job, and does it well.

I think Trusova will be the number one because she will be the strongest athlete in our group. Do I want to work with her again? Of course, it'd be interesting. Time will tell, working towards this. 

Well, I feel vindicated that Trusova's former coach has a similar opinion of her current skating as I do. 

 

And judging from what Plushy was saying there, he's thoroughly assessed the challenge ahead of him and sounds ready to go work on it. I think it will be interesting to see the result. 

 

And my Russian FS drama is that I was insulted by Plush because of an interview on sports.ru. Good enough for me! Revenge poem coming right up.  

[cirelle]

1 hour ago, Fay said:

This is brilliant - shall we play for a while? 

I insulted Averbukh because I wanted to skate to Sex Bomb! 

 

I insulted Yagudin bc he can't jump quads 

[Paskud]

1 hour ago, Fay said:

This is brilliant - shall we play for a while? 

I insulted Averbukh because I wanted to skate to Sex Bomb! 

I secretly helped Yagudin because he can't jump quads.

So now I can teach quads? Maybe Eteri will hire me instead of Rozanov.

[Paskud]

2 minutes ago, cirelle said:

 

I insulted Yagudin bc he can't jump quads 

Now he can thanks to me. 

[Fay]

3 minutes ago, cirelle said:

 

I insulted Yagudin bc he can't jump quads 

 

3 minutes ago, Paskud said:

I secretly helped Yagudin because he can't jump quads.

So now I can teach quads? Maybe Eteri will hire me instead of Rozanov.

Now we can have our own PH drama! Yay!

[Paskud]

8 minutes ago, Fay said:

 

Now we can have our own PH drama! Yay!

Okay, now I'm waiting for flowers.

[SitTwizzle]

22 minutes ago, Paskud said:

Kostornaya said that Rozanov is (now was) her favourite coach and it's him who taught her 3a.

 

Also, outside of Trusova looks like only Zhilinas are leaving. So it's not like suddenly most skaters run away.

Not exactly, from what I read. He suggested her at a point, implying probably that after disappointing tests, she went some time in the junior group (not to be confused with the Junior age category : with Team Tutberidze the senior group includes many juniors, even novices though I think Veronika Zhilina was still training mostly with Rozanov but I am not sure) but it was not even him who helped her trying new jumps, and she prefers Eteri Tutberidze's presence at championships.

https://fs-gossips.com/alena-kostornaia-of-course-its-very-disappointing-when-everyone-does-it-but-you-dont/

 

From what I have read (but I must rely on others lip sync and translations), the lip sync was that Evgenia Medvedeva asked : "Why did you let her win?" while (not initially told if I remember well) Eteri Tutberidze had kept it for what she probably thought Evgenia Medvedeva meant by these words (not having retained Alina Zagitova one more year in Junior).

[Paskud]

17 minutes ago, SitTwizzle said:

Not exactly, from what I read. He suggested her at a point, implying probably that after disappointing tests, she went some time in the junior group (not to be confused with the Junior age category : with Team Tutberidze the senior group includes many juniors, even novices though I think Veronika Zhilina was still training mostly with Rozanov but I am not sure) but it was not even him who helped her trying new jumps, and she prefers Eteri Tutberidze's presence at championships.

https://fs-gossips.com/alena-kostornaia-of-course-its-very-disappointing-when-everyone-does-it-but-you-dont/

 

From what I have read (but I must rely on others lip sync and translations), the lip sync was that Evgenia Medvedeva asked : "Why did you let her win?" while (not initially told if I remember well) Eteri Tutberidze had kept it for what she probably thought Evgenia Medvedeva meant by these words (not having retained Alina Zagitova one more year in Junior).

 https://sport.business-gazeta.ru/article/254323

[yuzuangel]

43 minutes ago, SitTwizzle said:

Not exactly, from what I read. He suggested her at a point, implying probably that after disappointing tests, she went some time in the junior group (not to be confused with the Junior age category : with Team Tutberidze the senior group includes many juniors, even novices though I think Veronika Zhilina was still training mostly with Rozanov but I am not sure) but it was not even him who helped her trying new jumps, and she prefers Eteri Tutberidze's presence at championships.

https://fs-gossips.com/alena-kostornaia-of-course-its-very-disappointing-when-everyone-does-it-but-you-dont/

 

From what I have read (but I must rely on others lip sync and translations), the lip sync was that Evgenia Medvedeva asked : "Why did you let her win?" while (not initially told if I remember well) Eteri Tutberidze had kept it for what she probably thought Evgenia Medvedeva meant by these words (not having retained Alina Zagitova one more year in Junior).

She literally says in your link that she doesn't think it's important which coach goes with her to competition, so it doesn't sound like she prefers Eteri really.

 

And "Why did you let Alina win?" in no world / to no sane person implies "Why didn't you keep Alina in juniors?"; to say that Evgenia asked her this in the k&c is just an outright lie to get people to hate Evgenia on Eteri's part.