General Yuzuru Chat

[getsurenka]

On the eve of Olympics starting, here is a baby mushroom to hype you up (if you aren't already). 

[Neenah]

2 minutes ago, Hydroblade said:

i'm on it, sorry!

No, I am sorry for asking you to do more work, and thank you very much for your time  

[ruruzest]

 nem is Yuzuru,

wen all the men

r sleeping well

i stay up late 

I jump the 4A!

 

(Sorry , no rhyme )

 

and with this this post I become 4Lo, the beautiful one !!!!

[SparkleSalad]

7 minutes ago, ruruzest said:

 nem is Yuzuru,

wen all the men

r sleeping well

i stay up late 

I jump the 4A!

 

(Sorry , no rhyme )

 

and with this this post I become 4Lo, the beautiful one !!!!

 

 

Oh, and they're just getting started. I wonder how many butcheries we'll be spoiled with in the next two weeks. I hope British uncles have been practicing! It's been too long since they've mispronounced his name. 

[MrPudding]

 

[Hydroblade]

Sorry for the delay already added the rest of the events

[cirelle]

24 minutes ago, SparkleSalad said:

 

 

Oh, and they're just getting started. I wonder how many butcheries we'll be spoiled with in the next two weeks. I hope British uncles have been practicing! It's been too long since they've mispronounced his name. 

 

Commentators messing up a skaters name should be part of the drinking game. Along with, "out of nowhere!" and pit stains. 

[sallycinnamon]

1 hour ago, Neenah said:

Can the mods please add the rest of the Olympics skating events to the calendar, it is really the easiest way to keep track of everything  and I need it to plan my life for next week 

Thank you   

 

P.S we really need a less angry off-topic emoji 

 

All OT emoticons I found are so angry, but then I finally found one which isn't:

 

[SparkleSalad]

3 minutes ago, cirelle said:

 

Commentators messing up a skaters name should be part of the drinking game. Along with, "out of nowhere!" and pit stains. 

 

I've really missed "out of nowhere" this season. 

[Neenah]

Just now, sallycinnamon said:

 

All OT emoticons I found are so angry, but then I finally found one which isn't:

 

[Sammie]

I would like to know more about this. If this is true I’m goin to  

[robin]

1 hour ago, getsurenka said:

On the eve of Olympics starting, here is a baby mushroom to hype you up (if you aren't already). 

 

This boy had it in him all along... all those spirals! And the step sequence! He was really fast, too, for a mushroom. And you can tell he liked the axel since way back then.

And that sit spin! It looks alot like his swan pose

[EisElle]

Great, more threads to drown in  lose myself in  to have fun in! Thank you thank you

 

46 minutes ago, SparkleSalad said:

I hope British uncles have been practicing! It's been too long since they've mispronounced his name. 

I worry about them, after so many months without practicing their "Yuzuru Hanyu" they might have forgotten it. It took them so many years of hard work...

18 minutes ago, cirelle said:

 

Commentators messing up a skaters name should be part of the drinking game. Along with, "out of nowhere!" and pit stains. 

But Nathan is bringing his diving suit fashionable costumes, no more pit stains there (granted, there will be others)

 

I'm late to the party, but here my thoughts on today's updates on Yuzuru

My first one is whoa!

Yuzuru is going into Olys with barely ONE month of on ice-training, even less of quad jumping. And he's going to do 6 freaking quads across SP and FS. I repeat, 6 freaking quads.

ngl, I will mourn the absence of 4Lo if it isn't consistent enough for Yuzu yet, and I will mourn even more if he will have only one 3A in the free, but tbh it's already mind-bloggling he is going for 4 quads in the free. I'm sure that, in his shoes, a lot of athletes would have been in a slump mentally, nevermind think about skating a 4 quads layout.

(Boyang skated a 4 quads FS after only a few weeks of training, too, but let's not forget 1) Boyang is younger, he healed faster 2) Yuzuru has a past of injuries, and more important a past with right ankle injuries, so he needs to be extra cautious and hasn't taking any chance, because he knows how much it sucks to injury yourself again when you are in a rush to get back 3) this Olympics means a lot more for him than for anyone else 4) he had a plan that got screwed big time 5) he has been off ice way longer)

I mean, just think about all of that: while other skaters, his direct competitors, where practicing and competing and getting medals left and right, Yuzuru was there, looking at the ice with longing, thinking about his ankle, his stamina, his recovery lagging, his training lagging even more, with the freaking Olympics he plans to win getting closer and closer (and people dismissing his chances more and more). Missing GPF and then missing Nationals again and he couldn't still skate as Nathan won US Nationals. Seriously, just think about that: as Nathan did his clean 5 quads FS, Yuzuru still wasn't back on the ice!!! and he was there watching and for sure reading everything people was saying

and Yuzu had to fight through all of this and then go back on the ice and be patient to get his 3A and his quads (and his 3Lz) back and he had to accept that there were some things he simply couldn't afford to do in those few weeks, things he had spent a lot of efforts and sweat and blood into acquiring (like the 4Lz) and he had to let go for now, because OLYMPICS were right there and he was running out of time.

How could he even think about doing team event is beyond me. Seriously, this guy! I'm so GLAD he chose to have another precious week in Canada. As Brian said, every day is precious (it wouldn't be this precious, had Yuzu been healthy all these months, but if you have only 3 darn weeks on-ice of course even one freaking day more matters!).

That he hasn't lost motivation, that the delay in his recovery hasn't made him lose his hopes, that he has not surrendered despite the clock ticking is astonishing.

IT.IS.ASTONISHING.

Just the amount of mental strenght it requires....argh, I want Yuzu to publish a book about all of this and people to translate it in all languages because it would seriously be something everyone needs to read!

 

 

6 hours ago, Sombreuil said:

p a bit made me think of NA sending Yuzuru to Bestemianova and Bobrin - it brought some big improvements but not enough for him.  It would be good if the outside input gave Shoma a bit of fire.   But he doesn't seem to be self propelling as Yuzuru is - all this stuff about not knowing where the rink he's skating on is makes me think of Pratchetts shark - it has an easy schedule, eat, sleep,swim, repeat.  Just substitute skate for swim!  

LOL that's my feeling too, poor Shoma

And off ice most of the time he still looks like a lost child in supermarket, looking for his parents (who was saying it's a surprise that he hasn't been kidnapped yet?)

OT I find Shoma's tendency to look like dozing off when off-ice both endearing and somewhat annoying, when he does that e.g. at press conferences. I mean, a bit more of effort there wouldn't be bad, he is an adult now and press cons last less than a hour. It's not like he's the only one who's tired after competition!
For different skaters things work in different ways, imo Boyang looks a bit more like Yuzuru when we talk about their mindset, he has something he's aiming for and he's quietly but steadily working towards that, without anything else steering him away from that. Right now, it doesn't looks like he's much interested in "I want to do better than x, y or z", but if it happens in the process of him achieving his own goal of course he is happy. To me, Shoma looks like someone who needs to see a clear "physical obstacle" ahead of him, something (or someone) he can fight against and he works to conquer it. It is possible he might also need a similarly external "physical proof" to be sure that he did well (I have read somewhere he is very hard on himself and he might sometimes doubt of himself? Maybe now his confidence is growing). With Nathan I feel there is a different kind of drive, it's more like "I love jumping quads, and quads are worth a lot of points, cool, I can win!" rather then "I'll do more quads because I want to win and be the absolute best in everything". But I haven't read many of his interviews so maybe I'm wrong.

It's somehow funny that, despite being hyper-aware of what and who surrounds him, Yuzuru's main motivation still comes from within himself and his mindset of constant evolution (I also wonder how much that mindset was actually born out of necessity, so he could survive through the hard times he has faced, starting from the "challenge" of his asthma), tho of course seeing others land difficult jumps lit a fire inside him. But his long terms plans were already set even before Boyang came with his gorgeous 4Lz3T, and way before Shoma and Nathan were in the picture as multiple quadsters.

 

RE: individuality/age

even if it's true that Yuzu has started being more actively heavily involved in things like his program choices after Sochi, he has always had a rebellious streak and he has always been quite headstrong in what he wanted.

Trusting someone else's choices isn't the same as not minding what they choose at all. I have always got the feeling that Yuzuru goes along others' plans only when he can find some kind of solid logic that can counter his own inclination, if his inclination is to do the opposite those other people want. If you want to get him do something, you better persuade him, because he won't follow you if you just say "I know better, trust me". you have to explain: "do this because of this and that".

For example, while he did trust Brian about the skating skill training, with the promise it would make everything else better, he still insisted on the 4S in 2013-2014. I don't see nor Shoma nor Nathan going against their coach about a jump and he wasn't even 19 when he insisted on that (also, don't forget RJ2 was his own choice, too, and he went as far as writing a letter to beg David to choreograph that program. Again, he was still 18 when he did that, but he already had a vision of what he wanted to do for his olympic season). With Jeff and PW, the reasoning might have been: I can challenge myself and explore something out of my comfort zone. Of course he wasn't going to trust people he had barely met, but he believed they could give something to him and he took all the opportunities.

That's why I think he, more than anyone else, has a strong mind and a strong will and a strong individuality. That's what makes him different.

 

Also adding to the "what would happen without TCC": stamina obviously improved both thanks to having more training hours and getting to work on ss under the guidance of a former ice-dancer (while in Sendai he had to do the most of his few hours of training, so he jumped, because jumps were worth more points) and of course the TCC team had loads of experience, both as athlete themselves and as coaches (as coaches a bit less, Brian had only started with Yuna).

Getting to work with so many professionals and specialists at once was important to get to an excellence level in different areas, too, a bit like when you go from school to university: at school you study a bit of everything, you get a general knowledge of many different things. But in uni you can maybe study the same subjects, but in much more depth. Nanami-sensei and even all the coaches he had before knew skating and its elements and gave him the basis, but the specialists are like uni porfessors, they are specialized and their knowledge of specific elements is way greater so they can see and resolve issues other people can't.

Also, never underestimate the importance of TCC privacy policy. We know Yuzuru can suffer from external and media attention. The media blackout during these last 3 months has been really impressive. Yuzuru wanted to focus solely on his recovery and training and TCC granted him exactly that. I don't know if other rinks would have been so effective. The coaches personal experience as skaters (Brian's in particular) and, again, as the one as Yuna coaches might have weighted a lot there.

 

 

To end this longish post:

remember, at Autumn Classic Brian's pre-competition talk to the press was about first pancake, and first pancake was.

Now he says he is not worried and all of this will raise Yuzu to another level...

 

 

[kaeryth]

14 minutes ago, Sammie said:

I would like to know more about this. If this is true I’m goin to  

 

I'm not crying...... I've just been cutting up some onions..

[SparkleSalad]

18 minutes ago, robin said:

 

This boy had it in him all along... all those spirals! And the step sequence! He was really fast, too, for a mushroom. And you can tell he liked the axel since way back then.

And that sit spin! It looks alot like his swan pose

 

I really love that spin and hope he brings it back. That position really suits Japanese music, too.