makebelieveup Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 5 hours ago, yuzuonice said: He did WTT 2017 too. about "home inflation": If Yuzu "delivers", even getting all 10s in PCS wouldn't be considered home inflation, it'd be considered a reality when compared to the candies that some other skaters are getting this season. Plus, clean jumps by Yuzu are actually worth +5 GOE, so... I don't see a scenario where Yuzu's score would be inflated, especially looking at how the current standard of judging is. I agree with you and I think what I meant by "people", I was referring to his antis LOL logically, people should agree a clean Yuzu deserves 10s and +5GOEs but I mean I think his haters would still claim those as home inflation regardless of how he skated. Link to comment
Hydroblade Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 22 hours ago, IULIANA said: Guys, where can I find the pdf coloured shedule for Saitama? I don't think it's out yet but the events are already added to our calendar Link to comment
Anzi Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 NERVOUS I guess my panic period begins. Good luck to everyone! Link to comment
IULIANA Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Thank you, Hydroblade, I had no idea there is this place on this planet like the calendar, you are so efficient, as always. Great! Now I know when and where! Link to comment
4Nessie Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 If anyone wants to reduce the Saitama waiting period, there will be Spring Streaming Party on Sunday Link to comment
Whee1000 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 LOL I like how the streaming party is specifically touting "soothing content." There is a proverb for March: "In like a lion, out like a lamb" Maybe that will be Mr. Hanyu... "'I'm HERE. I'm HERE TO WIN..." "I was very surprised to do so well..." (Not sure if the proverb really means that, but I'm going to be very literal.) Link to comment
Henni147 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Laureus is doing some kind of flashback/best moments 2019 marathon on their twitter page and Yuzu plus fandom are mentioned. Twice. This post again reminded me of the ancient fight for recognition of the international fandom At the same time it made me really curious, how many different countries we could actually get together, if all fans gathered...? Imagine all the nationalities colored on a huge world map banner... I'm about to start a poll, but I'm not sure, if Laureus is the best platform for this... Link to comment
Mastyaeva Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 12 минут назад, Henni147 сказал: This post again reminded me of the ancient fight for recognition of the international fandom At the same time it made me really curious, how many different countries we could actually get together, if all fans gathered...? Imagine all the nationalities colored on a huge world map banner... We once had a world map for Yuzu’s birthday, where we marked our locations. Not sure if it is available now. Very impressive. Link to comment
Veveco Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I know nobody cares about ranking in FS, but I got curious so I did some calculations to see what will happen after WC. Current ranking is 1=Shoma, 2=Nathan, 3=Yuzu. Shoma is #1 since he got his 4CC title (which Yuzu & Nathan skipped), but if I understand the ISU rules correctly, only one "ISU world championship" (which includes 4CC/EC/WC I guess) result is counted at the end so he won't gain much after WC even if he wins the whole thing, whereas Nathan and Yuzu will up their score significantly if they get a good result. In short: -Nathan is assured to finish #1 as long as he is on the podium at WC. If Nathan is 4th or 5th, Yuzu can clinch the #1 ranking spot with a victory or silver medal, respectively. -While Yuzu has a very small chance to get #1 (see above), he is at least assured to be #2 if he finishes 4th or better at WC. And even if Yuzu is 5th at WC, Shoma needs to win the competition to beat him to #2 ranking. -Shoma will likely finish the year #3. Even with a gold medal, he needs Yuzu to be no better than 5th and Nathan 8th to beat them. Considering the gap between the Yuzu/Shoma/Nathan trio and the rest of the field this season, very unlikely. Even if you want to add Boyang in the mix as a serious medal hopeful for instance, it would take a considerate bombing from Yuzu and/or Nathan for Shoma to finish better than #3. So, pretty much 90% chance of having 1=Nathan, 2=Yuzu, 3=Shoma after WC. Again, not a big deal really. Still interesting to see that even with missing half of the season twice in a row, Yuzu is still in the mix for the top ranking spots since, whenever he competes, he gets excellent results (by a normal person standard). By the way, ISU has a bit of a weird ranking system if you ask me. Link to comment
Henni147 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 23 minutes ago, Veveco said: I know nobody cares about ranking in FS, but I got curious so I did some calculations to see what will happen after WC. Current ranking is 1=Shoma, 2=Nathan, 3=Yuzu. Shoma is #1 since he got his 4CC title (which Yuzu & Nathan skipped), but if I understand the ISU rules correctly, only one "ISU world championship" (which includes 4CC/EC/WC I guess) result is counted at the end so he won't gain much after WC even if he wins the whole thing, whereas Nathan and Yuzu will up their score significantly if they get a good result. In short: -Nathan is assured to finish #1 as long as he is on the podium at WC. If Nathan is 4th or 5th, Yuzu can clinch the #1 ranking spot with a victory or silver medal, respectively. -While Yuzu has a very small chance to get #1 (see above), he is at least assured to be #2 if he finishes 4th or better at WC. And even if Yuzu is 5th at WC, Shoma needs to win the competition to beat him to #2 ranking. -Shoma will likely finish the year #3. Even with a gold medal, he needs Yuzu to be no better than 5th and Nathan 8th to beat them. Considering the gap between the Yuzu/Shoma/Nathan trio and the rest of the field this season, very unlikely. Even if you want to add Boyang in the mix as a serious medal hopeful for instance, it would take a considerate bombing from Yuzu and/or Nathan for Shoma to finish better than #3. So, pretty much 90% chance of having 1=Nathan, 2=Yuzu, 3=Shoma after WC. Again, not a big deal really. Still interesting to see that even with missing half of the season twice in a row, Yuzu is still in the mix for the top ranking spots since, whenever he competes, he gets excellent results (by a normal person standard). By the way, ISU has a bit of a weird ranking system if you ask me. You have to keep in mind that the 2016/17 results will be canceled at the end of the season. That includes Yuzu's victories at GPF 2016 and Worlds 2017, so he will loose many many points... 1890 in total and he hasn't competed that much since then. However, he will stay in the top 6 (which is important for GP selections and skating in the final group) and the rest doesn't matter. Link to comment
Veveco Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I didn't check when they remove those, I assumed it'd be at the start of the next season. Do they do it as soon as WC end? When does the season officially end/start? WTT still counts as the current season, doesn't it? Link to comment
Henni147 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, Veveco said: I didn't check when they remove those, I assumed it'd be at the start of the next season. Do they do it as soon as WC end? When does the season officially end/start? WTT still counts as the current season, doesn't it? I'm not sure how they handle team event results in individual world standings. I don't think that they count at all...? My guess is that the cut will happen during the summer break, when the new season has officially started. Then season 16/17 will be skipped completely and 17/18 reduced to 70%. #Sidenote: it's so stupid that only the best or two best results in a segment count for the rankings: one ISU championship (Olympics, Worlds or Continentals) two GP events (Final included) two Challenger events That means: someone who finished on the podium at Olympics, Worlds and Euros (or 4CC) in one season, but missed the rest due to injury or sth, ends up with less points than someone who competed in all 7 events (minus GPF), but didn't medal anywhere... Link to comment
Veveco Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I didn't mean that WTT counts for rankings, just that it'd be strange to remove the points already if the current season is still ongoing officially (as casual as WTT is). Sorry if I wasn't clear. Link to comment
Sabrina Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 If somebody is interested the time schedule for WTT 2019 ! I don´t know where to post it ! https://www.isu.org/docman-documents-links/isu-files/event-documents/figure-skating-4/2018-19/international-22/announcements-66/19816-isu-world-team-trophy-2019-time-schedule/file Link to comment
yuzuonice Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 48 minutes ago, Sabrina said: If somebody is interested the time schedule for WTT 2019 ! I don´t know where to post it ! https://www.isu.org/docman-documents-links/isu-files/event-documents/figure-skating-4/2018-19/international-22/announcements-66/19816-isu-world-team-trophy-2019-time-schedule/file Thanks! how is there a time schedule for WTT already but not Worlds Link to comment
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