Paskud Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 On 12/15/2020 at 9:12 PM, sallycinnamon said: I'm curious how it'll affect scores if top skaters will skate in the first group of the free skaters/free dances Expand I think it means that last person after SP will skate first in FP, second to last will skate second and so on. So TOP 6 after SP will still skate in last group. To avoid FP draw and unnecesarry gathering. Just like in all competitions this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzuangel Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 [NEWS] why not just random order? reverse order doesn't sound like it will hugely help. also going ahead with nebelhorn trophy as the qualifier...and worlds placements to determine beijing spots it's gonna be so unfair to skaters who haven't had the chance to compete/train... welp, no wonder Yuzu knows he needs to go to nationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallycinnamon Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 On 12/15/2020 at 9:56 PM, Paskud said: I think it means that last person after SP will skate first in FP, second to last will skate second and so on. So TOP 6 after SP will still skate in last group. To avoid FP draw and unnecesarry gathering. Just like in all competitions this season. Expand Oh I see, it does make sense. On 12/15/2020 at 10:12 PM, yuzuangel said: [NEWS] why not just random order? reverse order doesn't sound like it will hugely help. also going ahead with nebelhorn trophy as the qualifier...and worlds placements to determine beijing spots it's gonna be so unfair to skaters who haven't had the chance to compete/train... welp, no wonder Yuzu knows he needs to go to nationals. Expand Someone needs to decide about the order then I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstaryuzu Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Nebelhorn? Why so far out (early Sept to qualify for a Feb competition)? makes no sense. Also, way to crowd a small mountain village in September....:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunna Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 4:00 AM, rockstaryuzu said: Nebelhorn? Why so far out (early Sept to qualify for a Feb competition)? makes no sense. Expand It's just before GP season, like most of the Challenger series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstaryuzu Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 10:11 AM, Lunna said: It's just before GP season, like most of the Challenger series. Expand Yeah I know that. What I want to know is why it was suddenly decided to make it the final opportunity to qualify for Olympics when it's six months away and there's a whole GP season in between Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunna Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 4:29 PM, rockstaryuzu said: Yeah I know that. What I want to know is why it was suddenly decided to make it the final opportunity to qualify for Olympics when it's six months away and there's a whole GP season in between Expand It wasn't suddenly, it was always like this, so just nothing new. There's almost no challengers later and those that are correspondent with GP events. And usually only small feds compete for these last spots, so it's not like ISU care much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstaryuzu Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 4:44 PM, Lunna said: It wasn't suddenly, it was always like this, so just nothing new. There's almost no challengers later and those that are correspondent with GP events. And usually only small feds compete for these last spots, so it's not like ISU care much. Expand So basically nothing's going to change from now until the Olympics unless Worlds gets held in March Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzuangel Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 oof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstaryuzu Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 On 12/17/2020 at 5:53 PM, yuzuangel said: oof Expand Not surprising when Russia's official position on doping in sports is "Why are you picking on us? Everyone else is doing it anyway, why can't we?" They do their good athletes a massive disservice. they have so many good athletes who don't need doping to win, so why wreck it for them by routinely doping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paskud Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 On 12/17/2020 at 5:53 PM, yuzuangel said: oof Expand nonsense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallycinnamon Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 On 12/17/2020 at 5:53 PM, yuzuangel said: oof Expand A political decision that doesn't make sense. Russia's power will remain the same anyway (which also includes figure skating). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SitTwizzle Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Thinking over the (probably bogus?) call on Yuzuru Hanyu's spin at SP, and "no-calls" for other skaters with faulty elements; and Yuzuru Hanyu's graduation thesis. And the same sort of mess going on in Russia. Could such a system as the one he's proposing in his thesis, be implemented internally by a federation for its national/regional championships, without incurring official blame and/or unofficial retaliation by ISU? Introducing it for instance, as a smaller scale experiment to give ISU more stuff to decide accurately. Being French, I wonder what would happen for instance if a regional federation in France, if there is indeed a regional federation now free from the Gailhaguet-system influence, would decide to implement such a system for their own championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veveco Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzuangel Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 6:36 PM, Veveco said: Expand ISU cancel worlds before skaters actually get there challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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