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  On 5/11/2021 at 7:50 AM, Saawa said:

 

I don't speak much Japanese, so I used OCR software to convert those scans into digital text and then auto-translated it with (mostly) DeepL and it turned out not bad and quite readable. Sure, it's not a proper translation so one has to take it with a grain of salt but anyway, here it is, there are some interesting parts: 

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Btw, hello everyone :wave: this is my first post, however, I'm not a new Fanyu. I just prefer lurking and that's my comfort zone but I enjoy to read PH daily and I'm really grateful for all you you who create content here and make PH such a nice place. 

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Thanks for doing the AI translation - that’s really quite good!  So much better than the Google translation that is such a disaster zone!  
 

The only missing aspect is the nuance and tone of Brian’s “voice” which doesn’t quite come through. Here is my interpretation: When Brian realized that Yuzu was not doing the usual routine he knew something was up. But instead of asking “what’s happening/what’s wrong?” he contained/held back this thought tightly in his heart and tried to say “let’s go” with as much lightness (not quite casualness but rather an effort to maintain normality in an extremely abnormal situation) in his voice as he could muster. You can feel Brian’s sensitivity and understanding of the delicate situation. Yuzu is clearly in a precarious state and he is making to pull things together back to normal routine. The last thing he needed was someone flapping about and throwing him further off balance.  This is my interpretation of Brian’s words  but the choice of words in this sentence shows the delicacy of the balancing act that Brian was having to go through at that moment. The literal translation, while correct, doesn’t quite capture this mood. 
 

Thank you Brian for being such a respectful and sensitive coach. He knows Yuzu is now grown up and does not need “instruction” so much as silent moral support. The bird has flown the nest but will occasionally fly back to rest his wings. 

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  On 5/11/2021 at 3:09 PM, Umebachi said:

 

Thank you Brian for being such a respectful and sensitive coach. He knows Yuzu is now grown up and does not need “instruction” so much as silent moral support. The bird has flown the nest but will occasionally fly back to rest his wings.

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I think Brian's relationship to Yuzu began to seriously evolve back in the 2013/14 season when Yuzu totally took over men's figure skating (GPF gold, Olympic gold, WC gold) but it really needed realignment in those two weeks late in 2015 when Yuzu captured the men's record books and began to seriously look like the GOAT.  After that, I think, Brian has not so much been an instructor but an adviser, someone Yuzu can turn to when he needs objective judgment from another.  Since that time Yuzu will turn to Brian when he needs help in figuring out something but it is Yuzu who is in charge of the direction he is going.  Once international borders are reopened I think Yuzu will remain in Japan but journey to Toronto at times to review things with Brian and company, listen to their comments, weigh them and act on those suggestions he feels are feasible in moving him forward.  That is one thing we have to remember about Yuzu.  He never wants to stay where he is, he always wants to move forward even if it involves taking risks in competition.  That's the mark of not only a true champion but a true GOAT.

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  On 5/11/2021 at 4:04 PM, micaelis said:

I think Brian's relationship to Yuzu began to seriously evolve back in the 2013/14 season when Yuzu totally took over men's figure skating (GPF gold, Olympic gold, WC gold) but it really needed realignment in those two weeks late in 2015 when Yuzu captured the men's record books and began to seriously look like the GOAT.  After that, I think, Brian has not so much been an instructor but an adviser, someone Yuzu can turn to when he needs objective judgment from another.  Since that time Yuzu will turn to Brian when he needs help in figuring out something but it is Yuzu who is in charge of the direction he is going.  Once international borders are reopened I think Yuzu will remain in Japan but journey to Toronto at times to review things with Brian and company, listen to their comments, weigh them and act on those suggestions he feels are feasible in moving him forward.  That is one thing we have to remember about Yuzu.  He never wants to stay where he is, he always wants to move forward even if it involves taking risks in competition.  That's the mark of not only a true champion but a true GOAT.

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But Ghislain.  Whether Brian is now more advisor than coach (and if or when that happened is debatable), there is no question that Ghislain is his coach, especially his jumping coach.  Yuzu is the GOAT but I don't want him to go forward without his coaches - it's like a doctor treating themselves.  Not recommended.

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  On 5/11/2021 at 12:10 AM, IceWings said:

The universe really needs to be better to him.

 

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He knows his time will come.......  :war:

 

  On 5/11/2021 at 12:10 AM, IceWings said:

As for cover-ups, Yuzu himself covers up. Initially, he said that not having Ghislain there didn't impact him. Then in later interviews, he admitted the situation was unusual, with the implication that it did affect him a bit. He also said the asthma attack was after the FP, but it certainly looked like he was already suffering the effects before the FP based on that video clip of him after the 6 minute warmup. And now Brian is saying it was before the FP.

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Maybe this all adds to the air of mystery that Javi says Yuzuru likes, he confuses his competitors with these conflicting accounts and messages :judgmental:(and confuses us a bit too!!)

 

 I think Yuzuru is pretty good at psychological warfare (Pooh taught him all he knows!!) - maybe that childlike innocence and cuteness he portrays is all part of it; in reality he's hard as nails our boy :muahaha: and he is ALWAYS the main news, win or lose, he's very clever.

 

(this is just a bit of lighthearted off season (cries) contemplation btw, I don't know Yuzuru at all ....... unfortunately.)

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  On 5/11/2021 at 12:10 AM, IceWings said:

 

 

As for cover-ups, Yuzu himself covers up. Initially, he said that not having Ghislain there didn't impact him. Then in later interviews, he admitted the situation was unusual, with the implication that it did affect him a bit. He also said the asthma attack was after the FP, but it certainly looked like he was already suffering the effects before the FP based on that video clip of him after the 6 minute warmup. And now Brian is saying it was before the FP.

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Reading this account of the asthma attack, I keep thinking about how things were in Boston, when Yuzu hid his injury from Brian. It seems to be a bit of a theme. 

 

 

  On 5/11/2021 at 2:09 AM, Melodie said:

They are always incompetent (and heartless too), aren't they? Remember that horrid accident at COC? Yuzu was also treated by a doctor from other teams.

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Honestly, I know we're outsiders looking in, and don't know for sure what's going on, but it really does look like there's a lot of times when the JSF staff responsible for Yuzu at competitions somehow omit to tell Brian important facts and information and it's a bit mind-boggling. Like, why wouldn't you tell a coach 'hey, your skater's having trouble breathing and will be a bit late to the warm-up' ? if only to save that coach the panic of having to search for an athlete who is nowhere to be found. I really don't get it. 

 

  On 5/11/2021 at 7:50 AM, Saawa said:

 

I don't speak much Japanese, so I used OCR software to convert those scans into digital text and then auto-translated it with (mostly) DeepL and it turned out not bad and quite readable. Sure, it's not a proper translation so one has to take it with a grain of salt but anyway, here it is, there are some interesting parts: 

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Btw, hello everyone :wave: this is my first post, however, I'm not a new Fanyu. I just prefer lurking and that's my comfort zone but I enjoy to read PH daily and I'm really grateful for all you you who create content here and make PH such a nice place. 

This post has been tagged by yuzuangel as [NEWS].
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Thanks so much for the translation, and welcome!

 

I'm glad to see Brian say they're trying to urge the government to open up for athletes. I'm not convinced they'll be listened to by the government, but at least they're trying. 

 

The last paragraph - I think Brian is actually super proud of how his athletes are coping with the situation even though he's also anxious on their behalf too. That's the way his words sound. 

 

  On 5/11/2021 at 4:04 PM, micaelis said:

After that, I think, Brian has not so much been an instructor but an adviser, someone Yuzu can turn to when he needs objective judgment from another.  Since that time Yuzu will turn to Brian when he needs help in figuring out something but it is Yuzu who is in charge of the direction he is going. 

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I do believe Brian has said as much in more than one interview.

 

  On 5/11/2021 at 3:09 PM, Umebachi said:

Thank you Brian for being such a respectful and sensitive coach. He knows Yuzu is now grown up and does not need “instruction” so much as silent moral support. The bird has flown the nest but will occasionally fly back to rest his wings. 

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This is my feeling as well, just from watching the way Brian looks at Yuzu when he's by the boards at competitions etc. I think Brian respects Yuzu immensely and more so as times goes on. 

 

 

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  On 5/11/2021 at 4:04 PM, micaelis said:

I think Brian's relationship to Yuzu began to seriously evolve back in the 2013/14 season when Yuzu totally took over men's figure skating (GPF gold, Olympic gold, WC gold) but it really needed realignment in those two weeks late in 2015 when Yuzu captured the men's record books and began to seriously look like the GOAT.  After that, I think, Brian has not so much been an instructor but an adviser, someone Yuzu can turn to when he needs objective judgment from another.  Since that time Yuzu will turn to Brian when he needs help in figuring out something but it is Yuzu who is in charge of the direction he is going.  Once international borders are reopened I think Yuzu will remain in Japan but journey to Toronto at times to review things with Brian and company, listen to their comments, weigh them and act on those suggestions he feels are feasible in moving him forward.  That is one thing we have to remember about Yuzu.  He never wants to stay where he is, he always wants to move forward even if it involves taking risks in competition.  That's the mark of not only a true champion but a true GOAT.

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I think TCC offers a much safer and richer training environment than working alone in Sendai Ice Rink at midnight (the rink has to be open to public during the day for their business/revenues).  I agree that Yuzu has benefited greatly from working on his own this past season, and learned to manage his training and his physical conditions on his own.  This must have given him greater confidence and will no doubt lead to new and different ways of training.  But I expect he would also want inputs from the diverse team of coaches available at TCC - not just Brian but Ghizlain, Tracy, spin coaches etc.  And in reference to 4A training he mentioned he missed getting access to good physical care/sports medicine - which is excellent in Canada.  (I recall when he was recovering from the lysfranc injury in 2015/2016 season he said in one of the interviews that he appreciates the quality of Canadian sports medicine.)  He knows that at TCC he will be given a lot of space to pursue his own training regime, and no one will be "telling him what to do". 

 

Another consideration is Covid-related: given the mess that the Japanese government is making of Covid policies including the huge delay in vaccination (Japan has vaccinated around 2% of pop with one dose, far worse than India at 6%), it would be safer for Yuzu to travel to Canada this summer when the country might start to open up with higher vaccination rate (currently at 40% of pop with one dose).  As mentioned in the interview, Brian mentioned that he is working hard to persuade the province to allow overseas athletes back into TCC.  Let's hope this happens!  My older family members (in their mid 70s) in Tokyo don't expect to get vaccinated until July or August - so there is little chance the younger people in Japan will get vaccinated before the fall at the earliest - so not before the start of the new FS season!      

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  On 5/11/2021 at 11:14 PM, Umebachi said:

 

I think TCC offers a much safer and richer training environment than working alone in Sendai Ice Rink at midnight (the rink has to be open to public during the day for their business/revenues).  I agree that Yuzu has benefited greatly from working on his own this past season, and learned to manage his training and his physical conditions on his own.  This must have given him greater confidence and will no doubt lead to new and different ways of training.  But I expect he would also want inputs from the diverse team of coaches available at TCC - not just Brian but Ghizlain, Tracy, spin coaches etc.  And in reference to 4A training he mentioned he missed getting access to good physical care/sports medicine - which is excellent in Canada.  (I recall when he was recovering from the lysfranc injury in 2015/2016 season he said in one of the interviews that he appreciates the quality of Canadian sports medicine.)  He knows that at TCC he will be given a lot of space to pursue his own training regime, and no one will be "telling him what to do". 

 

Another consideration is Covid-related: given the mess that the Japanese government is making of Covid policies including the huge delay in vaccination (Japan has vaccinated around 2% of pop with one dose, far worse than India at 6%), it would be safer for Yuzu to travel to Canada this summer when the country might start to open up with higher vaccination rate (currently at 40% of pop with one dose).  As mentioned in the interview, Brian mentioned that he is working hard to persuade the province to allow overseas athletes back into TCC.  Let's hope this happens!  My older family members (in their mid 70s) in Tokyo don't expect to get vaccinated until July or August - so there is little chance the younger people in Japan will get vaccinated before the fall at the earliest - so not before the start of the new FS season!      

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I, too, hope that there will be an allowance for entry for elite athletes.  Yuzu and Jun and Jason, too. Jason will have been vaccinated and both Jun and Yuzu could be (if either their countries have them get vaccinated or if they come through the US, where anyone can get vaccinated, regardless of nationality, or if Canada will be able to offer them vaccines in Toronto). Yuzu has been doing extraordinarily considering the regimen he's had to practice.  But there is absolutely no doubt that being at TCC and availing himself of all coaching and therapy this year will be better for him going into the next season. Spending another year on his own will likely having him hitting a training "wall" or worse, injuring himself.

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  On 5/11/2021 at 11:14 PM, Umebachi said:

 

I think TCC offers a much safer and richer training environment than working alone in Sendai Ice Rink at midnight (the rink has to be open to public during the day for their business/revenues).  I agree that Yuzu has benefited greatly from working on his own this past season, and learned to manage his training and his physical conditions on his own.  This must have given him greater confidence and will no doubt lead to new and different ways of training.  But I expect he would also want inputs from the diverse team of coaches available at TCC - not just Brian but Ghizlain, Tracy, spin coaches etc.  And in reference to 4A training he mentioned he missed getting access to good physical care/sports medicine - which is excellent in Canada.  (I recall when he was recovering from the lysfranc injury in 2015/2016 season he said in one of the interviews that he appreciates the quality of Canadian sports medicine.)  He knows that at TCC he will be given a lot of space to pursue his own training regime, and no one will be "telling him what to do". 

 

Another consideration is Covid-related: given the mess that the Japanese government is making of Covid policies including the huge delay in vaccination (Japan has vaccinated around 2% of pop with one dose, far worse than India at 6%), it would be safer for Yuzu to travel to Canada this summer when the country might start to open up with higher vaccination rate (currently at 40% of pop with one dose).  As mentioned in the interview, Brian mentioned that he is working hard to persuade the province to allow overseas athletes back into TCC.  Let's hope this happens!  My older family members (in their mid 70s) in Tokyo don't expect to get vaccinated until July or August - so there is little chance the younger people in Japan will get vaccinated before the fall at the earliest - so not before the start of the new FS season!      

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I've tried not to have too strong an opinion about where Yuzu should train, although I lean to Toronto -- if for no other reason than the selfish one that I dream of traveling to Vancouver to see him in Skate Canada. But the vaccination issue cinches it for me. If he can vet vaccinated sooner in Canada (or even the US, of all crazy places), I hope the Canadian government decides to let him and other skaters in. And I hope he decides to come. I can't imagine what advantage of staying in Japan would outweigh the comfort of knowing that he was protected from COVID. 

 

But he's Yuzu: He's smart and he's strong, and he'll do what he thinks best. As he should. :meditationf:

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Reality is that until this pandemic starts ending somehow, neither Yuzu nor anyone else has all that much control over where he'll be training. I have other thoughts, but they're all gloomy so I'll keep them to myself. I just want to point out that it's not as simple as whether Canada will let him in and which location he thinks he'd be better off training in. 

 

 

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I think if he will go to Canada, then only for September-October.

NHK - Japan

GPF - Japan

JNats - Japan

4cc - China

Olympics - China

For what traveling back to Canada between these competitions? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The only part that I really don't like is that he is training at night. =/

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  On 5/11/2021 at 7:50 AM, Saawa said:

 

I don't speak much Japanese, so I used OCR software to convert those scans into digital text and then auto-translated it with (mostly) DeepL and it turned out not bad and quite readable. Sure, it's not a proper translation so one has to take it with a grain of salt but anyway, here it is, there are some interesting parts: 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Btw, hello everyone :wave: this is my first post, however, I'm not a new Fanyu. I just prefer lurking and that's my comfort zone but I enjoy to read PH daily and I'm really grateful for all you you who create content here and make PH such a nice place. 

This post has been tagged by yuzuangel as [NEWS].
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Hello!! Thanks a lot for your effort in translating and welcome~ :67638860:

 

  On 5/11/2021 at 3:09 PM, Umebachi said:

Thanks for doing the AI translation - that’s really quite good!  So much better than the Google translation that is such a disaster zone!  
 

The only missing aspect is the nuance and tone of Brian’s “voice” which doesn’t quite come through. Here is my interpretation: When Brian realized that Yuzu was not doing the usual routine he knew something was up. But instead of asking “what’s happening/what’s wrong?” he contained/held back this thought tightly in his heart and tried to say “let’s go” with as much lightness (not quite casualness but rather an effort to maintain normality in an extremely abnormal situation) in his voice as he could muster. You can feel Brian’s sensitivity and understanding of the delicate situation. Yuzu is clearly in a precarious state and he is making to pull things together back to normal routine. The last thing he needed was someone flapping about and throwing him further off balance.  This is my interpretation of Brian’s words  but the choice of words in this sentence shows the delicacy of the balancing act that Brian was having to go through at that moment. The literal translation, while correct, doesn’t quite capture this mood. 
 

Thank you Brian for being such a respectful and sensitive coach. He knows Yuzu is now grown up and does not need “instruction” so much as silent moral support. The bird has flown the nest but will occasionally fly back to rest his wings. 

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This.. thanks for adding it. Even before this additional nuance I actually could somehow sense or try to see the situation in there.. at the whacky situation he's in (I mean.. really, I couldn't believe they just let him ran around searching for Yuzu without telling him where or what has happened.. at least give him more than just oh he's somewhere else no big deal.. well OFC it WAS for him) I think Brian perfectly understood what he needed to do and tried his best to give some sense of normalcy to Yuzu. I figured Yuzu must've also realized that Brian would know something's off and he'd also appreciate Brian's effort of not fussing over it instead just move them along as best as he could.

 

The series of unfortunate incidents might seem too many up to now but against all odds Yuzu is still fired up and getting stronger.. let's hope things will only get brighter and stars would align better and shine light on him. I know, he already IS the light, but I think it wouldn't hurt to get some support.. :tumblr_inline_mqt4graWWO1qz4rgp:

(might not make much sense but let's just pretend)

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