Paskud Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 3 hours ago, FlyingCamel said: 😍😍 it's URed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Paskud said: it's URed The girl has grown quite a bit. It looks heavier than before. Do you think she can carry those quads into her late teens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paskud Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 51 minutes ago, Fay said: The girl has grown quite a bit. It looks heavier than before. Do you think she can carry those quads into her late teens? Seems unlikely,, but I don't think we can say anything for sure. Ladies' quads is really an unknown territory. Maybe yes, if she will focus on one/two types. But that another unlikely thing.😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingCamel Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 55 minutes ago, Fay said: The girl has grown quite a bit. It looks heavier than before. Do you think she can carry those quads into her late teens? I don’t think she will ever give up on quads though... I can’t imagine her skating without quads, we know she loves them so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzuangel Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 https://www.eurosport.ru/figure-skating/story_sto7832776.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallycinnamon Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, yuzuangel said: https://www.eurosport.ru/figure-skating/story_sto7832776.shtml It took me a second to realise it's not Alexandra Stepanova the ice dancer but an ex-figure skater who has the same name...I was wondering what did Alexandra want to do with Tutberidze?! She criticises Eteri's group a lot although she hasn't really trained with her, she decided not to join the team, or she claims so. But I wouldn't be surprised there was truth in what she says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallyT Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 On 8/10/2020 at 3:33 AM, rockstaryuzu said: IS the FS gossip really that crazy? Is the sky really that blue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstaryuzu Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Paskud said: it's URed She's skating too slow and has no momentum to carry through the combo. If there's one thing I hope Plush can teach her, it's to skate with sufficient speed. Then maybe the other problems will also get better. Sufficient speed = enough momentum to fully rotate 4 turns, for example. At least that's what the physics would suggest. Yuzu has spoiled me for anyone else. He's so darn fast on the ice that everyone else looks like a turtle by comparison. But after watching him, it really opens your eyes to how essential having good speed is for things like jumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstaryuzu Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, TallyT said: Is the sky really that blue? Touché Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, rockstaryuzu said: She's skating too slow and has no momentum to carry through the combo. If there's one thing I hope Plush can teach her, it's to skate with sufficient speed. Then maybe the other problems will also get better. Sufficient speed = enough momentum to fully rotate 4 turns, for example. At least that's what the physics would suggest. Yuzu has spoiled me for anyone else. He's so darn fast on the ice that everyone else looks like a turtle by comparison. But after watching him, it really opens your eyes to how essential having good speed is for things like jumps. The greater the speed, the harder it gets to control the jump. This is where having a reliable technique comes to the fore. And according to Plushenko, she doesn’t really have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstaryuzu Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Fay said: The girl has grown quite a bit. It looks heavier than before. Do you think she can carry those quads into her late teens? If she builds up strength and gets the right technique going, in theory there's no reason she couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstaryuzu Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fay said: The greater the speed, the harder it gets to control the jump. This is where having a reliable technique comes to the fore. And according to Plushenko, she doesn’t really have it. true but you get so much back in return - more height, more rotation, more flow coming out the other side. At least, that's what I see with Yuzu anyway. Kolyada too, come to think of it. And I can see why Plush said that - she's still windmilling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzuangel Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, rockstaryuzu said: true but you get so much back in return - more height, more rotation, more flow coming out the other side. At least, that's what I see with Yuzu anyway. Kolyada too, come to think of it. right but if you can't do the jump then it's all moot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstaryuzu Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, yuzuangel said: right but if you can't do the jump then it's all moot True, I'm going on the assumption that you pretty well have to build up all of it together - the speed, the technique, and the strength to control it all. presumably Plush understands that and will pass it on to his skaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzuangel Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, rockstaryuzu said: True, I'm going on the assumption that you pretty well have to build up all of it together - the speed, the technique, and the strength to control it all. presumably Plush understands that and will pass it on to his skaters. It's often a balance; going slower makes it easier to control like Fay said but you'd have to compensate by muscling more or swinging your arms more to get the momentum...whereas going fast means you get the momentum effortlessly but it's way harder to get the timing right. you're more likely to, say, pop the jump or just not be able to do it at all of course skaters know this but learning to time your muscles to milliseconds precision is not something all of them can do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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