General Skating Chat

[cirelle]

16 hours ago, yuzuangel said:

Omg. A Lutz could be considered a "difficult entry"!! 

Bullet 6: Do the jump with proper technique, with correct edge/lobe and/or no more than 90 degrees prerotaton for toe jumps/120 degrees for edge jumps. This bullet is strictly optional but whatever, if you don’t have anything better to do with your life.  
 

[sallycinnamon]

 

[ralucutzagy]

5 hours ago, sallycinnamon said:

 

Sigh ... they started canceling competitions already ... I was waiting this ... but still so sad ...

[sallycinnamon]

According to the secretary general of the Slovakian Figure Skating Association, the JGP and Nepela Memorial competitions were cancelled because holding these events would be too risky.

 

https://www.bumm.sk/sport/2020/05/18/szeptemberi-versenyeket-is-torolt-egy-szlovak-sportszovetseg

 

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“Even if it'll be possible to compete, we don’t know the conditions now. Hotels cannot guarantee anything. One of the hotels in Košice is still closed, and even if they are opened, the restaurant area and the rooms where we usually organize off ice events  cannot be secured. Another hotel has canceled our reservation, they can only guarantee 30 percent of the rooms.”

There may also be a problem with the venues, and the operators of the Steel Arena in Košice and the Nepela Stadium in Bratislava don’t even know when they’re going to make ice again. Losses can also have an impact on prices.

It is also not possible to know whether it is already possible to travel freely in the autumn. “The situation is still bad in the US, Russia, not ideal in Italy either. It is feared that very few competitors would come. Thus, the grant received from the ISU would also be reduced. We are a small association, we cannot afford such a high risk," Kürti explained.

However, the secretary general hopes that the best figure skaters will be able to visit Slovakia again in the future: “Maybe this one-year break will be good and we can give Nepela a new boost. We will work on this. We are also re-applying for the JGP and the European Championships. ”

 

 

[Lunna]

16 минут назад, sallycinnamon сказал:

According to the secretary general of the Slovakian Figure Skating Association, the JGP and Nepela Memorial competitions were cancelled because holding these events would be too risky.

I think it's understandable that for small feds the risk might be too high, I expect the bigger ones will wait longer. At least athletes will have to be able to travel internationally for the events to take place even without viewers. And organizers must provide regular tests I guess.

[yuzuangel]

Sigh, I wonder what would happen if we just can't even have next season at all...lots of skaters will be completely out of shape for the olympics,  it's gonna be a huge unknown. lol 

[mercedes]

49 minutes ago, yuzuangel said:

Sigh, I wonder what would happen if we just can't even have next season at all...lots of skaters will be completely out of shape for the olympics,  it's gonna be a huge unknown. lol 

it's a scary thought but maybe things will be better next year ,they could only cancel the GP and go for nationals EC/4cc and worlds who knows?

[SitTwizzle]

18 minutes ago, mercedes said:

it's a scary thought but maybe things will be better next year ,they could only cancel the GP and go for nationals EC/4cc and worlds who knows?

At the moment, no GP trophy is cancelled. Let's hope it will be possible to maintain them all (even at other venues), or to find a way to select finalist for GPF if some are cancelled.

[Pink Elephants]

2 hours ago, mercedes said:

it's a scary thought but maybe things will be better next year ,they could only cancel the GP and go for nationals EC/4cc and worlds who knows?

That's what I'm thinking too, these might be only the first of many. Maybe after a season with no Worlds, we get a season with only Worlds. It would be the responsible thing to do but I kind of hope it doesn't have to come to that... Skating careers are so short and fragile anyway, I wonder if many will take this time off training to reflect and reconsider and decide it's just not worth it and retire. Not to mention losing jumps, stamina.. Whatever happens skating in the Olympic year will probably look very different

[Lunna]

4 часа назад, yuzuangel сказал:

Sigh, I wonder what would happen if we just can't even have next season at all...lots of skaters will be completely out of shape for the olympics,  it's gonna be a huge unknown. lol 

I try not to think of this. Cuz even if Euros/Worlds will not happen at some way this year, Olympics might not happen at all too, cuz I'm not sure there will be a vaccine in 1-2 years time (too much different information on the topic really). And athletes also can't continue training in the unknown babble, some might just retire, especially those from small feds might just go look for a job or education, a lot of juniors will not know what to choose too.

But I think here's the huge worldwide sport industry on the line (together with entertaining industry), not just FS, which is even not a team sport, so we'll see and hope for the best.

[SitTwizzle]

A little laugh... Some "forgotten moves" from the 80's :

 

 

[cirelle]

9 hours ago, Lunna said:

I try not to think of this. Cuz even if Euros/Worlds will not happen at some way this year, Olympics might not happen at all too, cuz I'm not sure there will be a vaccine in 1-2 years time (too much different information on the topic really). And athletes also can't continue training in the unknown babble, some might just retire, especially those from small feds might just go look for a job or education, a lot of juniors will not know what to choose too.

But I think here's the huge worldwide sport industry on the line (together with entertaining industry), not just FS, which is even not a team sport, so we'll see and hope for the best.

 

And WC next season decides spots for Olys. They're gonna do their damndest to make it happen. Maybe with no spectators? Or just local ones, since Sweden is doing the "we're not doing herd immunity but we're doing herd immunity" thing. Or else everyone goes to Nebelhorn fall of 2021. 

[mokjakarma]

1 hour ago, cirelle said:

Or else everyone goes to Nebelhorn fall of 2021. 

Yuzu going to Nebelhorn and doing Etude, R&J and Vertigo again woops.

[TallyT]

26 minutes ago, mokjakarma said:

Yuzu going to Nebelhorn and doing Etude, R&J and Vertigo again woops.

 

Don't. Give. The. Troll. King. Ideas. 

[sallycinnamon]

There is a long interview with Lorenzo Magri, the coach of Daniel Grassl in an Italian newspaper. He criticized quite a lot how ISU handled the situation before they cancelled Worlds.

 

"People died, but the ISU did not decide. Does figure skating exist in Italy? Sometimes I wonder... "

 

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After the world junior championship in Tallinn you have conscientiously decided not to leave for Canada, waiting for more clarity ...

 

Magri: After the World Junior Championships it was very hard to understand what to do. It did not seem respectful of the ISU to not take a position, above all because already in Italy, people were starting to die. Many then left, both of the Italian national team and of the ISU members themselves, to then not play the Worlds. We spent a total of three weeks in Tallinn waiting for decisions to avoid leaving for Canada, where among other things we would not have had the opportunity to train on the weekend. We therefore waited for the response remaining in Europe.

 

A situation that has created many embarrassments, especially if we consider that the day after the official postponement of the World Championships in Montreal, Nottingham (United Kingdom) was held regularly by those of Synchronized Junior ...

 

Magri: I do not agree with the way the ISU operates. It mainly tends to prepare the judges and the technical panels, but not taking care of the coaches, I can say it because I cover both roles as ISU Technical Specialist. They think that the coaches already have their earnings, however there is no training for us and neither for the athletes. The perception is that the ISU takes care of the budget, the image, the sale of advertising and television spaces; it is more a business-related project, it has lost much of the value we could define as sport ethics and principles related to the value of sport. For example, I find that there is no consideration of the standard of living that many very young athletes, for example those of the Tutberidze Team, must have to maintain that certain level of performance, ability and performance, especially in relation to a short competitive "life" period if not very short; this is a problem that involves Russia, other federations and also the ISU itself. On the other hand, it must be said that figure skating is a sport that still pays off, so much so that many athletes of a certain age, even Italians, do not want to abandon it to remain in vogue and return to the show circuit.