tafattsbarn Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 @rubyblue Maybe a bit mean so under spoiler, but it's my honest opinion. Reveal hidden contents This actually made me understand the reaction to Nathan's choreo sequence a bit better. I've always thought it was horrible and almost making a mockery of hip hop with the way he's flailing around like a chicken doing what many seem to call 'dancing'. There's almost zero control of movement and precision which always leaves me baffled since he apparently did work with real dancers while learning it. So it always gave me terrible second hand embarrassment and seeing people praising it has been... Weird. It's still terrible in my opinion but now i understand why the audience seem to like it, it just serves as a break from the monotone feel the rest of the program has. Edit: Quoted the wrong post and i'm on mobile so don't know how to fix it but yeah... Removed the quote and @'d the user instead. Link to comment
Sukigirl Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I just caught up with the news. basically I don’t know how I feel about it... Link to comment
rubyblue Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 1:57 PM, tafattsbarn said: @rubyblue Maybe a bit mean so under spoiler, but it's my honest opinion. Reveal hidden contents This actually made me understand the reaction to Nathan's choreo sequence a bit better. I've always thought it was horrible and almost making a mockery of hip hop with the way he's flailing around like a chicken doing what many seem to call 'dancing'. There's almost zero control of movement and precision which always leaves me baffled since he apparently did work with real dancers while learning it. So it always gave me terrible second hand embarrassment and seeing people praising it has been... Weird. It's still terrible in my opinion but now i understand why the audience seem to like it, it just serves as a break from the monotone feel the rest of the program has. Edit: Quoted the wrong post and i'm on mobile so don't know how to fix it but yeah... Removed the quote and @'d the user instead. Expand Ehm, I agree. It's not a cheese I like either Link to comment
Pammi Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 1:44 PM, IULIANA said: Didn’t Yuzu initially have a 5 quad layout for SEIMEI at Olys? iirc In early Oly season there was a documentary with Yuzuru talking about SEIMEI layout - he had it written down (in his lovely neat handwriting!) and there was 4loop and 4lutz Expand Just watched CoR17 SEIMEI and Yuzu had a 5 quad layout : 4Lz 4Lo 4S 4T, 4T3T,3A2T 3A so he practised that from Summer 17 to his injury Nov 17 - all in the bank waiting to be resurrected! Link to comment
Katt Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 1:38 PM, Pammi said: Didn’t Yuzu initially have a 5 quad layout for SEIMEI at Olys? iirc In early Oly season there was a documentary with Yuzuru talking about SEIMEI layout - he had it written down (in his lovely neat handwriting!) and there was 4loop and 4lutz included - if so, he will have been practising this in Summer 2017 (all training remains in the bank says Brian!), and the only alteration needed is reducing the time by 20 seconds (i know this in itself is tough!) but he may have already have muscle memory of the upgraded programme? if anyone knows the documentary I am referring to it would be great to have a link to check it out! i am off to watch CoR2017 SEIMEI for clues!! Expand Its 4:40 mins verson, reducing 30sec is another beast and if you re watch Seimei COR, the last 3 jumping pass were already really close to each other. One of the most amazing thing about Seimei is the chsq, with 33s long and most chsq under new system are much shorter (Origin is about 18sec). I just can't imagine how he's gonna handle it and I'm so looking forward to his first practice. Edit : His isu's bio got update again today and still Chopin/Seimei. Well, better light all the candles now Link to comment
liv Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 1:18 PM, rubyblue said: Sad thing is that Nathan's choreo sq is "so impactful" mostly because it's such a contrast to the emptiness of everything before it. Fact that you can perform only in 10-15 seconds of 4 minutes program and still get high 9 in PCS is so unfair and annoying. Expand I agree..I'm no fan of it, I actually don't even remember his program, but the judges seem to be. Link to comment
IULIANA Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Here! I posted it on he 4CC fluff thread too. What do they say? Link to comment
Crow Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 And I also dont like Nathan's skating, all due respect as a high performing athlete, but his artistry -or lack thereof- is unattractive to me. I think there should be more balance, ofc new and exciting development for the sport is appreciated (like say going for a 4A or a 5 : ), but always keeping in mind the essence of figure skating and making sure not to lose the performing aspect of it. I dont want to watch just jumps I want to watch a beautiful skate. And when people like Nate get all the praise for focusing on jumps, and Yuzu's efforts are underappreciated it sends a message. A bad message in my humble opinion. Link to comment
ralucutzagy Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 1:57 PM, tafattsbarn said: @rubyblue Maybe a bit mean so under spoiler, but it's my honest opinion. Reveal hidden contents This actually made me understand the reaction to Nathan's choreo sequence a bit better. I've always thought it was horrible and almost making a mockery of hip hop with the way he's flailing around like a chicken doing what many seem to call 'dancing'. There's almost zero control of movement and precision which always leaves me baffled since he apparently did work with real dancers while learning it. So it always gave me terrible second hand embarrassment and seeing people praising it has been... Weird. It's still terrible in my opinion but now i understand why the audience seem to like it, it just serves as a break from the monotone feel the rest of the program has. Edit: Quoted the wrong post and i'm on mobile so don't know how to fix it but yeah... Removed the quote and @'d the user instead. Expand Amen to all this. Reveal hidden contents I totally dislike the costume, the choreo - or the lack of it. Everything. Just terrible. lol Link to comment
ralucutzagy Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 lol Media is on fire over his change. Link to comment
BWOZWaltz Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I'm waiting on SPARK as they suppose to have a segment of Yuzu on 4CC. I'm watching on this https://mov3.co/en/fujitv/ (no vpn required) Link to comment
Lunna Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 2:17 PM, Crow said: And I also dont like Nathan's skating, all due respect as a high performing athlete, but his artistry -or lack thereof- is unattractive to me. Expand It's not only artistry but also GOEs for jumps and other elements with not best execution. But in FS not like it's smth new sadly. Link to comment
IULIANA Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 2:34 PM, BWOZWaltz said: I'm waiting on SPARK as they suppose to have a segment of Yuzu on 4CC. I'm watching on this https://mov3.co/en/fujitv/ (no vpn required) Expand Please keep us on the loop. Link to comment
micaelis Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 2:30 PM, ralucutzagy said: lol Media is on fire over his change. Expand This time he won't be on painkillers. Link to comment
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