hoodie axel

It could be better, and maybe she's improving. I never thought she had a particularly great salchow even before this season, though. If you see how Sakamoto, or Kostner, or Tuktamysheva do it, theirs are far "floatier". Maybe they're building up the technique for the 4S and it's in progress.

^that was just a silly joke on my part. Gogo's technique, however, isn't that great, so who even knows.

I hope Gogo's 3A remains intact, at any rate.

By that logic, then, you shouldn't be giving credit to anything that's a technical element, at all, in PCS. Nothing for choreography, performance, interpretation with spins and footwork, transitions for steps going in and out of jumps, because those are already covered in GOE These things are there SPECIFICALLY to demonstrate your skill. You train skating skills specifically to do steps and turns. That's the weird Cinquata-like backward-thinking that got us into the place we are with skating currently. How would you ever be able to predict this?

Ok, now don't get me wrong, I acknowledge you're judging quality too. My problem with quantifying everything is, well, when can I say I have demonstrated multidirectional ability? What percentage of the program is to be devoted to multidirectional turns? I'm already doing them in my required leveled footwork. If I do those with supreme quality, is it enough or not? If it doesn't go with the music, then what? I'm not sure I agree. I would classify this as choreography. I would maybe classify them as simple transitions at most, although would also judge these by considering what kind of edge, speed and flow was maintained, and if the body was bent into a difficult position even if not exactly doing a step or turn during it, or some full body movement was demonstrated, because that would still demonstrate skill as opposed to just moving an arm.

That would go to Yuna Kim, in terms of choreography and interpretation at any rate.

I can take it. Because I'm not a hero. I'm a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight.

Let's cite it in full: This clearly speaks about technique. Nowhere does it say "quantity of [all these things]". Equating quality with quantity doesn't make sense. Does Uno not demonstrate a command over edges, steps, and turns when he does his skid stop, spread eagle, besti squat, his leveled step sequence, the standard turns and steps he does into and out of his spins and jumps? It also seems you're docking him for not being able to demonstrate more steps and turns in favour of more crossovers, what about the "effortless use of power to accelerate" when he does them? Does he gain something when he loses something else? What's a "10"? Is the 10 deserved only when someone checks all criteria? What if someone comes up with even more steps and turns? Did Patrick Chan (at his best) deserve a lower SS score than Hanyu (at his best) for doing relatively fewer steps and turns in his program, even though his edges have more power and control? Of course, if Uno were doing nothing but crossovers through his programs, it would be weird to give him a very high SS mark, but by the very structure of programs that IJS needs, that will never be true. He demonstrates blade control in his spins, and his edges and multidirectional ability are evident in his crossovers and the steps and turns he is required to do in his footwork sequences. However, if someone who skated exactly like Uno were to perform more difficult skill, he should get more SS marks, nor are Uno's skills perfect (could have better glide, could have better edge, better control). The main issue I would have if someone were doing fewer extraneous turns and steps (or transitions) is if they still didn't skate with great speed, edge, or control on the rest of the things, or carried low speed going into elements despite not having too many steps or turns going into them. THAT'S poor demonstration of technique. You can never put in things like "deep edge", "control", or even "speed" (for now) into this truly objective measurement. Right here you say difficulty of choreography. There exist two marks for that already, TR and CO. Yes, I understood that. Hence my question if you were counting the rest of the things.

I actually think it would suit Tomono lol

This argument has never made sense to me. Judge the quality of crossovers here -- good power? Gain in speed? Glide?. Deduct elsewhere for not showing enough transitions/choreography/whatever. I'm weirded out by this obsession with crossovers, lol. Who cares this much? They're a part of skating. It doesn't automatically make an inferior program, otherwise post-2002 Michelle Kwan would be horrible by these "standards", when she had some of her best performances in that period. Her SS were excellent because of the stability of glide and deep edge she constantly held through the program, even with her crossovers. Chen's performance component isn't better than Jin's (when each at their best). His projection, energy, and use of facial expression are all lacking, and Jin while not having great body awareness still engages more as a result. Here it might have been. In terms of SS, I'd place them roughly the same, although Chen barely progressed this season and we never got to see Jin do a good job this season -- he's actually improved a lot in terms of power from crossovers, and somewhat in glide and edge, which might push him up. In terms of scores, I'd place the LP SS score from Jin lower than Chen's, because he was quite laboured and slow at several points. He barely gets any flow out of his jump landings, and the transitioning between elements is never smooth as a result. How are Kolyada's slightly less than Chen's? Are you sure you're counting the transitions into spins, out of jumps, in between all elements? He already gets better flow, so that aids this mark. I might have Jin or Uno last in this component, because they just had poor showings with their elements. Otherwise, note Jin's transitions into and out of both his 3A passes + the illusion into sit spin straight out of the 3F, and Uno's spread eagle 3Lo. Fair enough, but I thought his body awareness was alright enough here. His mistakes affected this a lot. His main problem was complete lack of energy, which is usually his strength.

Oh, alright, the names the "next unread topic" and the name of "topic list" in a sub-forum. Then no, not available for me, either.

Sort of?

Again, again! Yuzuru Hanyu: SP: El Tango de Roxanne LP: El Tango de Roxanne (looped over)

What if everybody does Moulin Rouge? What if this is the Moulin Rouge season?

They mean the topic navigators present at the bottom of every page when you're reading a thread. The ones that say "go back to topic listing" and "next unread topic". It's available for me, so I'm guessing their theme is affecting their ability to see it. ETA: or they were on a thread in a board that had only one topic in total. Unlikely.

This is Angel by Westlife!

This is Angel by Westlife!

I didn't even mute Mako's music this season

I don't think everyone should like Moulin Rouge but I do like Moulin Rouge. I do want new choices but... I like this well enough to not mind.

I like Moulin Rouge.

What's her sp?

Already... I actually thought she was going to college and was considering quitting?

Speaking of Lori, though, her instagram comments indicate she is everyone's crazy (but cool) aunt

I'd assume so, he's skating it in Qingdao. I wonder if he did it himself, because Lori is in Canada! He was posting dance videos of a lyrical style a bit back.