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Regarding Nathan and the rumoured 4A, first, I don’t believe it’s true since Nathan has trouble landing a proper 3A and, second, Yuzu’s goal is to be the first skater to cleanly land the 4A in a sanctioned competition, not just in practice. Was Nathan’s rumoured 4A allegedly landed in a sanctioned competition?

 

Also, if Nathan was capable of landing a 4A, I don’t think he would give a second thought to whether he was stepping on Yuzu’s toes by doing it.

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Like I said, there's no way its true, especially since it supposedly happened during a private practice session and the source has been proven untrustworthy before. 

8 minutes ago, Geo1 said:

Also, if Nathan was capable of landing a 4A, I don’t think he would give a second thought to whether he was stepping on Yuzu’s toes by doing it.

 

Maybe I just have too much faith in there still being reasonable people in this sport. I've been a casual fan of skating for years and only just started getting into the nitty gritty of it, I guess I haven't been disillusioned yet :laughing:

 

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Pfffft, what humbug has now come abuzz??

 

Nathan, aiming for Nessie? When it is a known fact that he isn't even very comfortable with jumping 3A?? Bollocks I say!

 

If the rumor goes that other skaters were said to have landed the first 4A, I would have believed it were it Keegan Messing (I personally only trusted his progress on his attempt on it), but even he had to scale back on that attempt and prioritized chasing for 4Lz instead. And now some people wanted me to believe that Nathan has it in the bag? The rumor isn't even believable!

 

I try my hardest not to direct my unfavorable feelings towards Nathan so excuse me before I start spouting foul words to USFSA and its goons...>:(:mad::censor:

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3 minutes ago, QuadOllie said:

Like I said, there's no way its true, especially since it supposedly happened during a private practice session and the source has been proven untrustworthy before. 

 

Maybe I just have too much faith in there still being reasonable people in this sport. I've been a casual fan of skating for years and only just started getting into the nitty gritty of it, I guess I haven't been disillusioned yet :laughing:

 

 

It isn’t a question of being reasonable. These are highly competitive elite athletes. They are always trying to outdo each other. That is the whole point of being in competition. The fact that they want to be the best or the first to accomplish something is natural.

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8 minutes ago, Geo1 said:

 

It isn’t a question of being reasonable. These are highly competitive elite athletes. They are always trying to outdo each other. That is the whole point of being in competition. The fact that they want to be the best or the first to accomplish something is natural.

That's fair. I guess I'm putting too much thought into the political side. 

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1 hour ago, Lunna said:

Point-wise 4A even isn't that worthy to kill yourself over it, especially if you're Nathan with many different quads and great GOEs (for Yuzu it has another motivation)

 

Of course it’s not worth it for Nathan to even try the 4A. The risk is too high and the reward too low. Even if he landed it in competition, the points you get are pitiful considering its difficulty. As you say, Yuzu is not trying to do it for the points. He’s doing it because it’s there and it hasn’t been accomplished yet. Points be damned. To dream the impossible dream… To run where the brave dare not go...  To reach the unreachable star...

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Hi, I'm looking for a video: it's an interview right after the 2018 Olympics medal ceremony. Yuzuru is still wearing his orange outfit, I remember that he said that that was the happiest day of his life, that he was happy to be alive, or something like that. If you have a link to watch that interview please let me know 

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3 hours ago, sallycinnamon said:

 

It comes from an unreliable source and nothing confirms it, I am sure it's not true. It'd be all over the internet already if it really happened :P Nathan himself said a few days ago that the triple Axel is his nemesis and it's a long way to go before he even attempts a quad.

yeah the "source" is a known troll who hates Yuzu and his fans, so...

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2 hours ago, FlyingCamel said:


hello!! Nice to meet you :)

 

hmm, honestly I wouldn’t think of it as a jerk move, it’s sports, it’s competition after all, Nathan doesn’t owe Yuzuru anything in that sense. Of course as a Yuzu fan I would hope for Yuzu to be the first to land it, but if Nathan or anyone else lands it first it will be an incredible achievement as well, and I will certainly applaud them! I wonder if Yuzu has caught wind of this rumour, it’s been floating around...

He can't do it.  I agree with the assessment of his 3A consistency and, truly, if he wants to work on something, he should spend some time on his spins.

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3 hours ago, QuadOllie said:

When he lands his 3A on a hope and a prayer half the time? Yeah, right. 

 

But, even if he does have it, he's not gonna use it any time soon. Since Yuzu has had his ready for so long (at least since before Worlds were meant to be) and just hasn't had a chance to compete, it would be a real jerk move to do it first, and Nate doesn't strike me as that kind of guy. 

 

(also, hi, after lurking since January, I finally speak. nice to meet y'all) 

Welcome!

I agree with everybody, Nathan Chen's Axels have hardly room for a 3A, a 4A would be unthinkable (except with a harness but I suppose you too, may "jump" a 4A with a harness?) He hasn't landed a 4Lo yet? He may some day, in spite of this jump scaring him?

Well, he doesn't have to work on his spins as errors don't seem to be called. I suppose people around him will see to that and prevent him from fixing it rather than upgrading his base value. The same for PCS. He "just" needs to land jumps.

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9 minutes ago, SitTwizzle said:

Welcome!

I agree with everybody, Nathan Chen's Axels have hardly room for a 3A, a 4A would be unthinkable (except with a harness but I suppose you too, may "jump" a 4A with a harness?) He hasn't landed a 4Lo yet? He may some day, in spite of this jump scaring him?

Well, he doesn't have to work on his spins as errors don't seem to be called. I suppose people around him will see to that and prevent him from fixing it rather than upgrading his base value. The same for PCS. He "just" needs to land jumps.

 

He did land it, was quite a bit of time ago though.

 

Another one here who agrees that Nathan trying out the 4A is very unlikely when his 3A is not as consistent as other skaters'. You can't attempt something more complicated when your foundation isn't as great yet, that is why Brian wanted Yuzu to improve his skating skills when he started at TCC :shrug:

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