General Yuzuru Chat

[kaeryth]

Oh Kikuchi-san....

 

[sweetwater]

10 hours ago, Old Cat Lady said:

 

Heck, even since Semei.  And it's probably just the angle or the fact that he squeezed himself into a costume from when he was 15 years  old, but I could swear that he's gotten more shapely even since 2018 Olympics.  He's been working hard in that gym!

 

 

I've always been curious about Kikuchi.  I thought I read somewhere that he moved to Toronto as well.  Tracy called him a personal trainer but he seems to be something more, especially if he really does have that level of devotion.

Actually, Kikuchi san still lives in Sendai. In a picture shared by  @ruruzest on page 3708, you can see his words on being well-known athlete's trainer and how it was tough for him when Yuzu was suffering injuries. In such time, he gets criticized by media and even by some fans as Yuzu's trainer, but on some occasions, there was nothing he could do because Yuzu was under treatment in Canada and Kikuchi san was working as a therapist in Sendai.

The picture I mentioned is shared by another therapist who attended a closed seminar for therapists, and as far as I know, Kikuchi san is living in Sendai as a normal citizen who doesn't have an agent to take care of such issues regarding media etc., so I'm not going to go further into this unless he officially gets interviewed or something, but he isn't living in Toronto. I still respect his devotion though. Last night I was editing a recording of the medal ceremony in PyeongChang aired on that day. It was nice to find Kikuchi san smiling in the crowd watching Yuzu. 

 

ETA: Oh, it's already translated and shared above

[Sammie]

8 minutes ago, kaeryth said:

Oh Kikuchi-san....

 

[Cerunias]

24 minutes ago, kaeryth said:

Oh Kikuchi-san....

 

 

Chakra wizard huh? I guess, as they say, any sufficiently advanced technique is indistinguishable from magic (with apologies to Arthur C Clarke).

And with Hanyu role-playing Seimei...there's a bit of irony there (I know Seimei wasn't a wizard per se, but demons/magic/fantasy, it's all the same genre).

[KatjaThera]

6 minutes ago, kaeryth said:

Oh Kikuchi-san....

 

It really sucks that even someone like Kikuchi-san gets targeted by media... but those people are obviously missing a huge point: Yuzu is a two times Olympic Champion, so obviously, his trainer must be doing something right... >_<

[MrPudding]

 

[ralucutzagy]

The Hug Monster!!  

 

[natsumono]

5 hours ago, asiacheetah said:

Um how did Kakuchi-san get MORE hair? Or did he shave before and it's different lighting.

 

I'm surprised they still have similar height difference. I thought Yuzu grew a lot since he turned Senior.

As far as I know Yuzu was already at least 168cm at 16 so he only grew 4/5 cm since then. And depending on the shoes both are wearing and their posture on these pictures it can easily make up for that difference.

[rockstaryuzu]

8 hours ago, Xen said:

Oh....hmm, I wonder...David Attenborough you don't say? His narration as applied to the six minute warm-up period, yes? Hmm....*has ideas*

 

As for Yuzu's sexuality, uh, do sparkly figure skating unicorn types have a sexuality?

IMO, if Yuzu has to have one, I would say he's a pan-quadsaxel-sexual, because I need him to be this way to fit with the jump harem ladies universe. Or if we must go based on his costumes, perhaps we could also classify it as sparkl-sexual? Or his lust for gold mdeals as gold-conivasexual?

 

Oh, I gave up wondering about that a long time ago. When I make reference to his masculinity or femininity, I'm talking about his identity as he presents it to us in performances. I'm firmly of the opinion that his sexuality, in the sense of who he'd be attracted to, is not our business. 

 

That being said, the thing he's shown repeatedly in interviews etc is that he LOVES gold. So I'd say he'd date it if he could. 

[BWOZWaltz]

 

I just want to share this. The OP says: What is great about Hanyu-kun is the fact that though he's a male skater, he can dance as if he's a delicate flower and he is not apologetic or being embarrassed about it. That is because he knows that he can show off his strong charismatic side any time whenever he wishes to do so.

 

I thought this is very true.

 

I was thinking that Yuzu's masculinity and femininity in terms of his skating expression is like colours to an artist. When an artist chooses a colour to capture/express the images/vision inside his head, he will pick or make up the colour to portray that image. The things that Yuzu chooses for his skating, like costumes, music, as well as elements are the tools and materials for his art. Some colours are soft or subtle that could be perceived as feminine and some colours are bold or strong and that is seen as masculine. They are picked purposefully to create the image that Yuzu wants to express. His ability to perform in such wide ranged expression makes him so unique and exciting.

 

To me, Yuzu is an athlete as well as an artist. I also think he is a muse for many people as I see a lot of people getting inspiration from Yuzu and draw pictures or create things. I, as an observer or a mere satellite, appreciate every opportunity to admire what Yuzu offers as well as numerous fan arts that people generously share with us 

[rockstaryuzu]

@BWOZWaltz that's exactly what I was trying to convey. That OP said it better than I ever could. 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

19 時間前, vanadiezzさんが言いました:

If I may say, some... let's say discontentment about this masculine/feminine topic happened because people have different ideas on what is masculinity and femininity in the first place.

 

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Now, if we are to find some agreement of this issue, then the first thing to do is to understand the cultural background on the speakers, while keeping in mind that it might be different with ours. Better yet, try to see Yuzu's action and choice based on HIS cultural background. 

Am I rambling enough? This things can be hard to explain. 

...

 

As for him being masculine by being competitive etc... Let's say that competitive is not something exclusively owned by a male. At least, that is how I feel when someone beat me while playing games (for an example).

 

 Okay, I end up with a wall of text. Sigh.

 

 

+everyone who turned this into a debate (and only those who did. This isn't meant for those who were merely sharing their own views on the topic)

 

Sigh. Why do people keep implying I'm confused when they themselves are the ones confused about what I'm trying to say in the first place. And to those who don't think this is the case, please don't tell me otherwise. I know what I read and have been directly addressed as well. I thought it was my fault for using triggering terms and giving inadequate explanation that led to much debating but a lot of people still didn't seem to get it after I've tried to explain numerous times now. I was beginning to wonder if there's something wrong with my communication ability but then there are those who completely got what I said as well, which told me maybe that wasn't the case. Then I realized it's because these people who got me actually read everything I said and interpreted it as a whole picture, while those who didn't were caught by bits of it and got hung up entirely on just those parts instead of trying to fit the jigsaw piece to form the entire picture. As a result of being sidetracked by semantics, some ended up missing the context by a mile, even though it shouldn't be that hard to see, and ended up going in circles around the point I was trying to make instead of arriving there.

 

Look, my stance--which is the whole picture I was trying to paint--is simple. There's really no need to convolute my point with discourse of gender fluidity, sexism, cultural differences and the whole shebang, because the point I'm trying to make was never anywhere near sexism, and while I get that people perceive differently based on the culture they grew up in, I wasn't trying to say that they were wrong in their perceptions. I only wanted to express mine, which is shaped by the environment *I* was brought up in.

 

Also, I actually don't think the guy is all that gender fluid. That's more Weir's domain in my books. On the other hand, I find him more androgynous then Weir. To me, androgyny and gender fluidity are two entirely different concepts. Which is to say, fey, to me, is more androgyny than gender fluidity, which is why I find Hanyu's style more fey, and not Weir's.  People don't have to agree with me because this is simply the way my perception works. Again, I'm not trying to change minds or preach to people here, only explaining my perception, so while I welcome people sharing theirs (like the person who had a different idea of what fey is and finds Weir more fitting to the concept in their minds), I'll thank those of you who have been attempting to correct me as though I have misperceived when you're not even really seeing what it is I am perceiving to please stop doing that. I wasn't trying to prove I'm right, though I don't believe there was any misperception on my part either. There's a reason why I keep putting in phrases like "to me", "I find" and other phrasal variations to express how this whole thing is my perception and mine alone in so many of my sentences.

 

But back to the point I was trying to make, and I hope this is the last time I need to repeat myself. I said he is an alpha male because he is an alpha-type male. Alpha type for wanting to be on top when it comes to being the best. Which can apply to the female population as well. And I say male because of his very obvious masculinity, based on the fact that he identifies as male and acts like one, up to and including the times when he does effeminate stuff. When he does it, it all shouts male to me still because he isn't effeminate in the sense Weir is effeminate but also isn't afraid to show behavior that people who can't seem to think outside of the box wouldn't consider as masculine. That's it. My standpoint is a neutral one. Please don't over interpret it anymore because I'm getting really tired of defending something that wasn't meant to be an argument in the first place.

[wingman]

@BWOZWaltz Well said! I like your colour analogies!

His "gender" thing used to bother me quite a bit at the beginning, but now I totally see it as a non-issue. Like many others, I don't see him as male or female during his performances, and I don't feel the urge to question his gender identity off-ice neither.

 

I think in the process of turning into a fanyu (and interacting with you guys on the Planet ), my world view has broadened. 

 

 

[micaelis]

11 hours ago, rockstaryuzu said:

I'm sorry, going without sparkles is the one thing of which I'm 100% sure the boy is incapable...

He didn't have sparkles for POTO2 and both shirts (dark and sky-blue) for PW.  There might have been more but these are both that first suggested to me.  POTO2 is, in fact, my favorite of all his costumes.  As for POTO2, he did have a fair amount of gold fabric, just no sequins or rhinestones.

[BWOZWaltz]

4 minutes ago, micaelis said:

He didn't have sparkles for POTO2 and both shirts (dark and sky-blue) for PW.  There might have been more but these are both that first suggested to me.  POTO2 is, in fact, my favorite of all his costumes.  As for POTO2, he did have a fair amount of gold fabric, just no sequins or rhinestones.

 

I thought there were sparkles on PW. There are pleated parts on the shirt that had plenty of sparkles. They're hidden but are still sparkles:D