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Fantasy on Ice 2022 in KOBE

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20 minutes ago, YuDai said:

Why would you say that :59227c768286a__s: But I was very confused by twitter fanyus thinking Yuzuru writhing in agony on the ice was sexy :confused:

🙏😿Sorry to bring up 2014 COC.

 

sexy—well when taken out of context, those moves are alluring, plus Yuzu is already handsome and hot… But as a fanyu who survived the past four years and the hell that is Beijing, I couldn’t help interpreting it as him struggling and fighting through torture, alone…

 

Perhaps it’s the charm of Yuzu…This man gets you crazy🔥for the moment and makes you cry🥺a second later…

 

Many on Twitter say Raison is erotic. Emmm personally I think erotic is somewhat shallow and also too strong an adjective🤣…There is elegance and dignity in his performance…I do enjoy the clip…and I somehow believe it would turn out to be an amazingly exquisite skate. 
 

We should all read Yuzu’s interviews and cheer for him.☺️💪

19 minutes ago, Pammi said:

You are totally right @eren - it is very reminiscent of how he lay gasping and how he struggled to get up when medics finally arrived

I'd like to know what the lyrics are at that point in the song

If Fuji TV has mercy upon us…😭🙏

Going through the quote retweets of this one made me teary🥲 .

 

 

This post has been tagged by yuzuangel as [NEWS].
5 hours ago, Mary_kyo said:

Does it make sense if I say that I don't care a bit about 4A as a jump but I only care about it as "Yuzu's dream"?  I find his story on this jump very inspiring, somehow poetic and personally relatable as a researcher. Whenever he lands it, it will remain in history, first or not. Like the story of John Stephen Akhwari. Sometimes firsts aren't remembered but race finishers are. So let's go, I'm so ready for the rest of the journey.

/end of emotional rant <3 

It makes perfect sense. That's what it's all about, right? That it's not just a jump, it's part of Yuzu's story, Yuzu's journey. So make room on the boat because there're many of us traveling on it :grouphug:

 

4 hours ago, JanMary said:

Maybe he even has a Planet Hanyu Account lol. 

 

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But he won't be able to see us vent because he is not an active poster XD

 

Are you sure? He has a lot to vent so maybe he's one of the most active ones :10814716:

 

2 hours ago, ImmortalBeloved said:

I am glad that we got a few clips of the performance at last.  From the Twitter comments one would be imagining all kinds of adult-only moves, but to me this is not sexually explicit (**the little we have seen). This seems to be Yuzu exorcising his demons on the ice. Those moves are indeed contorted and agonized (imagine The Exorcist here) like he is wrestling with his own demons and ? defeats them. It ties in with my earlier comment on how his costume looks to also represent this transition.  @Perelandra, yes Rite of Spring definitely comes to mind here.

Yeah, it seems that you were right about the costume. I must say that now I like the white costumes :10636614:

 

Someone has already posted, but...

I love how he reaffirms himself in each interview, calmly, without excessive gestures, with clear messages. The 4A is still his dream and he's determined to achieve it in front of everyone. Artistry is important in figure skating, but it's also a sport, so he is an athlete. He doesn't give up on his skating. Beijing, he learned and grew from the experience and now he's glad he went.

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, ImmortalBeloved said:

I'm glad we finally got some snippets of the performance. From the comments on Twitter, one could imagine all sorts of adult-only moves, but to me, it's not sexually explicit (**what little we've seen). It appears to be Yuzu exorcising her demons on the ice. These movements are indeed twisted and anguished (imagine the Exorcist here) as if he was wrestling with his own demons and? defeat them. This ties in with my earlier comment about how her costume seems to represent that transition as well.  @Perelandra, yes Rite of Spring definitely comes to mind here.

 

 

As you write, we "could think of explicit movements" but NO and the little that I have seen (like you ALL and thanks to you ALL  :grouphug: ) always refers for these "twisted" movements to the Rite of Spring (this did TILT right away) that I posted and from the Paris Opera and only Yuzu will give us an explanation (and still we haven't seen everything from his program) and the COC 2014, I don't think (and this is only my opinion) and white may be a symbolic color in Japan? 

 

And the height of the jump WOOOOO "FLY YUZU"  :dancingpooh: and  :thanks: XIUPIA for Reason and I find the tempo fast and wait, so to see what Yuzu has refined for us!!!!! 

27 minutes ago, Yukok said:

I'm on the way for KOBE ☺️listening to Muyakawa kun songs.

How exciting! Enjoy the show, and give us your impressions later!

I can't wait for the full performance. the moment we all start to make interpretation of his program even from a just a clip of his performance, it means he's succeed to captivating us and convey something with just gestures and as i mentioned before, even the color choice of his program costume. 

 

 

4 hours ago, eren said:

Personally I like it better than Blinding Lights. I don't know how to put it...but Raison feels more natural? more relaxed? more confident? not that awkward? I think white costume is a good choice for this one. 

 

Raison is choreographed with DW, the one who helped him too with HYK (correct me on this one) so no wonder it's natural. That's why we thought the program would be emotional one, hahaha. As for Blinding Lights, it's choreographed by himself. As you can see, Yuzu is still learning at this part (well, he's always learning to be better) 

Can't find if this has been shared on the feed yet, but here is an account of someone who watched both private practice sessions in Kobe-there are several sub-tweets as well:

 

 

 

This post has been tagged by yuzuangel as [NEWS].

 

3 hours ago, YuDai said:

Why would you say that :59227c768286a__s: But I was very confused by twitter fanyus thinking Yuzuru writhing in agony on the ice was sexy :confused:

Before we actually got some video footage, that was mostly from quick descriptions by fans in the arena. What they're seeing may depend on where their seat is, so if you're sitting closer and you can actually see his facial expression, you may think his movements are more like a painful struggle. But if you're sitting in the back and all you see is him kind of writhing on the ice, you may think it was more like sexy choreo.

 

I think that's the same reason why we originally got some conflicting descriptions of his costumes.

 

5 hours ago, eren said:

Personally I like it better than Blinding Lights. I don't know how to put it...but Raison feels more natural? more relaxed? more confident? not that awkward? I think white costume is a good choice for this one. 

Yuzu did the choreo for Blinding Lights. I know he did the choreo for his Cruel Angel's Thesis solo and he said he had to do more choreo since he was training alone, but he really hasn't done a whole lot of choreography so it's natural that it's still a work-in-progress. I'm happy to see him trying new things and stretching his boundaries.

 

David Wilson did the choreo for Raison, and he's a seasoned, veteran, top choreographer, so you can't really compare with Yuzu, who is still learning and experimenting.

 

Also, Yuzu's dancing skills have noticeably improved since Blinding Lights, and I think that's also a big reason why Real Face and Raison look more natural and confident.

 

We also know that he's been studying dance moves from watching kpop videos so there's always this too. :)

 

3 hours ago, eren said:

🙏😿Sorry to bring up 2014 COC.

 

sexy—well when taken out of context, those moves are alluring, plus Yuzu is already handsome and hot… But as a fanyu who survived the past four years and the hell that is Beijing, I couldn’t help interpreting it as him struggling and fighting through torture, alone…

 

Perhaps it’s the charm of Yuzu…This man gets you crazy🔥for the moment and makes you cry🥺a second later…

 

Many on Twitter say Raison is erotic. Emmm personally I think erotic is somewhat shallow and also too strong an adjective🤣…There is elegance and dignity in his performance…I do enjoy the clip…and I somehow believe it would turn out to be an amazingly exquisite skate. 
 

We should all read Yuzu’s interviews and cheer for him.☺️💪


It looks sensual because of how natural and easy he turns on the ice. His anguish expression? The ice show audience (depending on where they are seated) will not be able to see. Personally I love what little I have seen. this is contemporary dance?

10 時間前, SuzyQさんが言いました:

 

I decided to give it a try. Now, I need some rest:13877886:

 

Here is what will test your imagination :jester:

Raison by Taisei Miyakawa

 

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さよならと指切りの関係 sayonara to yubikiri no kankei

Relationship between goodbye and pinky-promise

Blackout. Raison, raison

愛みたいな幻想を知った ai mitaina genso wo shitta

I came to know an illusion like love

ねだって nedatte

Coaxing

Get down, get down

移り気な夜 utsurigina yoru

A fickle night

解けないパズルとレゾン・デートル hodokenai pazuru to rezon detoru

Unsolvable puzzle and raison d'etre

黎明 reimei

Dawn

 

全知全能になったって、分からないことばかり zenchi zennou ni nattatte wakarani kotobakari

Even if I became omnipotent, there's too much I don't know

音の中に幻影 oto no nakani gen'ei

Illusion in the sound

「ねえ、あの陽のこと覚えてる?」ne'e, anohino koto oboeteru?

"Well, do you remember that sun?"

(ライナウ rainau sounds "right now" to me) 駆け出して kakedashite

Right now, rushing away

君をどこかに連れ去って kimi wo dokokani tsuresatte

Taking you away somewhere

意識が遠のいてく ishiki ga tohnoiteku

Consciousness fading away

千切れてしまう chiigireteshimau

Tearing away

あの糸 ano ito

that thread

 

集合的無意識にとける shugoteki muishikini tokeru

集合的無意識に shugoteki muishikini,

集合的無意識に くだらないな アンサー shugoteki muishikini kudaranaina answer

Collective unconsciously melting.

Collective unconsciously, collective unconsciously rubbish, answer

 

さよならと明け方の反転 sayonara to akegata no hanten

Goodbye and dawn reversed

Frame out, raison, raison

恋のつもり koi no tsumori 浅はかだって笑って asahakadatte waratte

Intended to be love. You can laugh at me that I'm silly

 

Fly out, Fly out

崩れていく計算 kuzureteiku keisan

Collapsing calculations

馬鹿げた瞳の裏見せてくれよ bakageta hitomino ura misetekureyo

Show me the back of your ridiculous eyes

泥濘 deinei

Mud

 

驚天動地の大展開 kyotendochi no daitenkai

Earth-shaking incredible development

カタルシスは目前 katarushisu wa mokuzen

 Catharsis is at hand

褪せることのないあの記憶を aserukotono nai ano kiokuwo

Those memories that never fade away

「見えるものすべて傷つけたい」"mierumono subete kizutsuketai

"Want to hurt everything I see" 

幼稚な言葉ってときにナイフより鋭いね yochina kotobatte tokini naifu yori surudoine

Childish language is sometimes sharper than a knife 

 

怯えていた君の目 obieteita kimino me

Your frightened eyes

薄汚れちゃえよ usuyogorechae yo 簡単に  kantan ni

Just get dirty easily

 

集合的無意識が嘲笑う shugoteki muishikiga azawarau

集合的無意識が shugoteki muishikiga

集合的無意識がつまらないよ バンカー shugoteki muishikiga tsumaranaiyo bunder

Collective unconscious sneers

Collective unconscious, collective unconsciousness is boring, bunker 

 

証明不可能な関係と shomei fukanouna kankei to

ぐらついてった信頼を guratsuitetta shinnrai wo 

Unprovable relationships and wobbling trust

 

ぱっぱっ ぱらぱっぱ 高らかに鳴らしたった (pappa parapappa) takarakani narashitatta

Pappa parapappa, I rang high

 

融合的結論を告げる yugoteki ketsuron wo tsugeru

融合的結論を yugoteki ketsuron wo

融合的結論を告げちゃおうか アンサー yugoteki ketsuron wo tsugechaouka answer

Telling fusional conclusion

Fusional conclusion, let me tell you the fusional conclusion, answer 

 

 

I have noticed that Miyakawa-kun is singing "hodokenai pazuru to rezon detoru" for the line below.

解けないパズルとレゾン・デートル 

instead of "tokenai pazuru."

 

I have edited my previous post. The translation is not changed.

 

Unsolvable puzzle and raison d'etre

 

Wow. So I've been listening to Raison on loop all day and as I was scrolling down Instagram there was a video of Yuzu from one of the interviews. The sound was off, but his moves perfectly lined up with the song. I turned on the sound and, indeed, it was a rehearsal for Raison. I was listening to a different part of the song, but his movements are so musical and his rhythm so good that it lined up anyway. Every move is on the beat. His musicality is on a whole other level. I have 0 doubt that in another universe Yuzu could've become a soloist, maybe for piano or violin.

 

I can't wait to see all of Raison, it looks amazing from the clips, and the music is right up my alley. The wait is killing me :13877886:

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