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[2022] Winter Olympic Games (04.02-20.02) - Team Event Ice Dance RD + FD

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6 minutes ago, rockstaryuzu said:

They've been getting slammed by Daisuke's fans - just like Yuzu did. 

I've heard from ID fans that KanaDai have higher scoring potential and Team KoKo are weaker technically. But then many KanaDai fans are assuming that they will skate clean, and KanaDai haven't always been consistent.

 

6 minutes ago, rockstaryuzu said:

But with glitter

Oh, I didn't notice the glitter. I just noticed Yuzu vibes. :)

 

3 minutes ago, river said:

So... maybe the team event is all ~~~vibes~~~ too.

It's an ISU run championship, everything is ~vibes~

4 minutes ago, river said:

 

I don't think it's possible for Japan to catch the US. Even if Japan gets 10 points and the US gets 6 points in the women's segment (both of which are very unlikely), that just evens them up in the points. The first tiebreaker is top two placements, which the US wins. And the US can't catch Russia, and Canada can't catch Japan. The medals are locked.

 

Edit: hang on, that's wrong. If Kaori wins, then its 10/10 vs 10/10 on the tiebreak. And I have no idea what the second tiebreak is supposed to mean, it's super unclear. So... maybe the team event is all ~~~vibes~~~ too.

Yeah I don't know either. I'm just along for the ride vibes. 😌

1 minute ago, IceWings said:

KanaDai have higher scoring potential and Team KoKo are weaker technically.

Even if that's true, JSF has pretty strict criteria on who they send, and KoKo met them, KanaDai did not

20 minutes ago, Flutterby said:

We'll just have to wait and see for the Ladies.:dontknow: It ain't over til its over.

Not necessary IMO. 

 

If Karen bombs hard and falls to the bottom, USA will get 6 points, yes? so 58 + 6 = 64 points. 

 

If Kaori gets second, JPN will get 9 points, so 54 + 9 = 63 points. 

 

So ROC Gold, USA Silver and JPN Bronze is the most plausible scenario. 

 

However, JPN would likely have won Silver and hence ROC Gold, JPN Silver and USA Bronze 

1) had they sent Muramoto/Takahashi instead of the Komatsubaras, considering the former's scoring potential => JPN scores higher in both RD & FD.

or,

2) Kamila bombs so hard (ROC still gets Gold anyway) Kaori gets in first position (+10) AND Karen bombs so hard she gets to the bottom (+6) 

=> JPN: 54 + 10 = 64

     USA: 58 + 6 = 64

=> Tie break.

=> Not gonna happen (Kamila in second) because ROC says so :P

Considering Kamila and CHN ladies there's very unlikely for JPN to gain that 4 points back and go to tie break. So I'm just here to enjoy the ride *vibes* as well XD

Actually, if Georgia qualified instead of China, then Japan could get that silver.

Btw, so much about "ice dance is about reputation" when a team who wasn't on worlds' podium since 2016 outscores reigning world champions.

Magic, I guess.

 

EDIT: It means that it's highly suspicious that said team managed to outscore reigning world champions.

So in love with Chock and Bates. Always really fresh shapes and lines, cohesive choreo/stories these past seasons. 

I like how having a strong pairs team changed things for TJ. That's why Japanese news outlets labelled RikuRyu as the key to the Olympic medal. :7938863: They almost got silver, too!

1 hour ago, Melodie said:

Not necessary IMO. 

 

If Karen bombs hard and falls to the bottom, USA will get 6 points, yes? so 58 + 6 = 64 points. 

 

If Kaori gets second, JPN will get 9 points, so 54 + 9 = 63 points. 

 

So ROC Gold, USA Silver and JPN Bronze is the most plausible scenario. 

 

However, JPN would likely have won Silver and hence ROC Gold, JPN Silver and USA Bronze 

1) had they sent Muramoto/Takahashi instead of the Komatsubaras, considering the former's scoring potential => JPN scores higher in both RD & FD.

or,

2) Kamila bombs so hard (ROC still gets Gold anyway) Kaori gets in first position (+10) AND Karen bombs so hard she gets to the bottom (+6) 

=> JPN: 54 + 10 = 64

     USA: 58 + 6 = 64

=> Tie break.

=> Not gonna happen (Kamila in second) because ROC says so :P

Now that the Team Event is over, just for discussion sake, if Japan had sent KanaDai and they got 3rd in FD, what would be the tie breaker?

In the 1st place, would KanaDai " higher scoring potential" gotten them 3rd in FD? I don't really follow Ice Dance so I'm not sure.

 

It never occured to me Japan could win Silver in Team Event cos they never won any medal before & their Ice Dance pairs have always been the weakest Internationally.

But then, I didn't expect USA not to field Alysa Liu in Women's event.

1 hour ago, Purple said:

Now that the Team Event is over, just for discussion sake, if Japan had sent KanaDai and they got 3rd in FD, what would be the tie breaker?

In the 1st place, would KanaDai " higher scoring potential" gotten them 3rd in FD? I don't really follow Ice Dance so I'm not sure.

 

It never occured to me Japan could win Silver in Team Event cos they never won any medal before & their Ice Dance pairs have always been the weakest Internationally.

But then, I didn't expect USA not to field Alysa Liu in Women's event.

This is from an Ice Dance stan on Twitter

 

So, from my understanding, they could have brought JPN at least 5 pts in the RD (Koko brought 4/10 pts) and 7 pts in the FD (Koko got last place so 6 pts) and that would have been enough to close the gap with the USA. And since JPN would win out on a tie breaker, that could have been a guaranteed Silver. 

 

So yes, JPN literally lost the sure chances at Silver by choosing the wrong Ice Dance team to the Olys. 

Japan lost silver, because they willingly sabotage their young id teams by not sending them to international competitions.😗✌

Who would even want to switch ti id when you can count on fingers all local id comps in Japan (including adult ones) and there is zero possibility of going abroad because "they aren't worth going there" (cit.)

Hirayama/Tateno had whole two (2) competitions this season. Who would even want to spend time and family's money in such situation?

Every country can send 3 teams to 4cc and they never use them because there is no one left with minimum tes.

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