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9 minutes ago, Umebachi said:

 

In one of his post Jnats interviews, Yuzu stated that he did not include flip or lutz in HE because they did not fit the choreography, which called for edge jumps. For example, after the 3A2T, he thought about other types of jumps but 3Lo felt the most appropriate to create the feeling of the flow - that I mentioned above.  At least for this performance at Jnats, he chose the jumps not to *water down* or to *avoid risks* but for the artistry and to create the feeling of one-ness.  

And flow his jumps created :) 

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I still think his ultimate goal is 4A, not Beijing. He mentioned (again) in post JNat interview that if it is not for 4A, he would not be competing. And even now he hasn’t confirmed anything about Beijing yet (that’s why he is asked this question in every competition). He also said in the post JNat interview that when he recover from the JNat tiredness he will again start to build his body for 4A. 
 

I don’t know whether he could win Beijing with 4A (no one knows who will be the winner anyhow), but his determination for 4A is unquestionable to me. 

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12 minutes ago, Melodie said:

And flow his jumps created :) 

 

I should add that it was particularly significant for him to create that flow and oneness at this event - Jnats at Nagano - because the location of the event is so close to the famous battle of Kawanakajima, and also because Nagano people still revere Lord Kenshin as their famous historic lord.  In other words, he was dancing on sacred land for people who would appreciate the significance of the dance.  

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About no flip or lutz in the program, I remember for both OP at JNat, he jumped lutz combo in the practice. So the jumps should be fine and nothing to worry about. (Edit: He jumped 3Lz-eu-3S on 24 and 26 Dec, and 3Lz on 25 Dec.)

 

From Sponichi OP memo, date 24 Dec 2020 (https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2020/12/24/kiji/20201224s00079000254000c.html)

▽12:48 3回転ループ、3回転ルッツ―1回転オイラー―3回転サルコーを着氷。

 

From Sponichi OP memo, date 25 Dec 2020 (https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2020/12/25/kiji/20201225s00079000169000c.html)

▽8:33 3回転ルッツ。ゆっくりと滑る。

 

From Sponichi OP memo, date 26 Dec 2020 (https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2020/12/26/kiji/20201226s00079000154000c.html)

▽10:07 3回転ルッツ―オイラー―3回転サルコーを跳ぶ。

 

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We always complain that Yuzu is held on different supperior standards compared to his oponents, and now we simply do the same. Judging at JNats was appalling, and the fact that he scored less than at NHK15 could give the impression that a 3-quads and 2x3As Seimei is technically superior to a 4-quads and 2x3As H&E. Seriously? Come on, guys, we could do better! Like we deliberately follow the NBC and USFSA narrative as the absolute truth. H&E is a pure gem already from the first outing and tactically and strategically impecable. And do not forget his beauty. Again, Yuzu proved that beauty does exist.

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As to the comment by Hagio Moto about Yuzuru that I posted about earlier, it seems the comment was actually made in 2019.

It was her answer when she was asked who she thought was a beautiful boy.  She said;

"Alain Delon, Al Pacino, as I'm old-fashioned"

"SMAP (Kimura Takuya)"

"Yuzuru Hanyu is like a miracle.  I cannot believe he really exists."  

 

https://ameblo.jp/minminmin-vync/entry-12648122560.html

 

Translation:

"After seeing Yuzuru Hanyu's aesthetic performance on the ice about the movie based on the novel written by Yumemakura Baku, who was enthralled by the aesthetic world of the manga drawn by Hagio Moto, Hagio said, "Yuzuru Hanyu is like a miracle." It's very good to feel the world is all connected."

 

Anyway, as I found the videos of the NHK program this time in 100 minutes, for those who are interested.

The man on the left who is talking enthusiastically about Hagio Moto is Yumemakura Baku who is the author of the novel "Onmyoji".

No.1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRzUwdblAd0

No.2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6nfKzZdGRk

No.3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61uixuf1ff8

No.4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwqHs0x29Og

 

 

 

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In my personal ranking, Ten to Chi to 2020 JNats has already surpassed both 2015 Seimei technically and artistically, only little behind 18OG Seimei and 17WC Hope and Legacy (partly because they both mean a lot to a Fanyu) ... I can't even imagine how Ten to Chi to could grow to be better... It is already so perfect. It only needs a Big Event performance for legendary status.

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2 hours ago, SuzyQ said:

But unfortunately it is also true that sometimes the judges take the jumps with higher base values as more rewarded ones than actually they are, and there is also a fact that the score is given pro rata base.

 

This rule definitely does not apply to Yuzuru Hanyu. We have seen the amazing GOE reward for his back-to-back 4Lo and 4Lz in Torino. The 4Lz got 3.94 of possible 5.75.

 

We also have seen the shabby GOE of Boyang's 4Lz, which actually is a true quad Lutz.

On the other hand Samarin's pre-rotated one with weird axis got +5s across the board and Shoma's awful 4F is regularly showered with high GOE, too.

 

The GOE scoring has NOTHING to do with the base value or actual quality of the element. It's blatant favoritism and push of narratives. Nothing else.

It absolutely doesn't matter, if Yuzu jumps Lutzes or not. If the panel is not on his side, he can't buy anything with his Lutz. Torino was an eye-opener in that regard.

 

 

EDIT: I start to believe that Beijing is somewhat bond to the 4A. This is the only jump that absolutely no one can do and it would set Yuzu apart from the rest of the field again.

Just keep in mind how much media attention the 4A already creates and Yuzu has not even landed it. Imagine what uproar there would be, if he eventually decided to bring this baby in competition. This would be something that not even NBC and friends could dismiss. This would be a game changer. Not in points, but in PR and figure skating is 99% a PR game now.

 

How could you explain to casual viewers that a skater with 4A and 2OGMs under his belt cannot beat a skater who has none of those things?

Also, you see how much excitement the thought of an Olympic three-peat creates. It hasn't been done in almost a century. Media loves narratives, but I think, they love sensations more. The ISU would be forced to let him win, if he skated clean with 4A.

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I think he could bring 4Lz into LEMY since the feeling of the jump fits with the tempo and rhythm of the music.  But not for HE, which requires edge jumps to create the feeling of flowing through.  In this context, 4A would potentially be a good opening jump for HE since the program starts with the intense "in the midst of battle" choreography and the quick build up to the first jump would fit well within that narrative.  This will certainly give a tremendous "wow" factor, and for the rest of the program he can rely on edge jumps to calm the nerves and gently waft his way toward the ending, which again ends with that sudden dramatic pose.  The breathing spaces during the program will also allow his energies to be conserved after the dramatic start, to maintain the continuous flow of energy.  Let us see if he can build up his strengths to make this happen next year...       

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3 hours ago, SuzyQ said:

As to the comment by Hagio Moto about Yuzuru that I posted about earlier, it seems the comment was actually made in 2016.

It was her answer when she was asked who she thought was a beautiful boy.  She said;

"Alain Delon, Al Pacino, as I'm old-fashioned"

"SMAP (Kimura Takuya)"

"Yuzuru Hanyu is like a miracle.  I cannot believe he really exists."  

 

https://ameblo.jp/minminmin-vync/entry-12648122560.html

 

Translation:

"After seeing Yuzuru Hanyu's aesthetic performance on the ice about the movie based on the novel written by Yumemakura Baku, who was enthralled by the aesthetic world of the manga drawn by Hagio Moto, Hagio said, "Yuzuru Hanyu is like a miracle." It's very good to feel the world is all connected."

 

Anyway, as I found the videos of the NHK program this time in 100 minutes, for those who are interested.

The man on the left who is talking enthusiastically about Hagio Moto is Yumemakura Baku who is the author of the novel "Onmyoji".

No.1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRzUwdblAd0

No.2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6nfKzZdGRk

No.3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61uixuf1ff8

No.4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwqHs0x29Og

 

 

 

 

 

This is a bit off-topic, but that 100 minute program on NHK Educational TV was terrific and profound - and dealt with all kinds of socially difficult topics, and how Hagio Muto pushed the boundaries of cultural and ethical moraes.   I hope NHK will translate this program for their international broadcasts.  It's too long and complex for amateur translators to handle... 

 

To bring it back to topic, I think this shows how much Yuzu's performances and human qualities are beginning to become part of the Japanese social and cultural fabric.  So many artists and writers are reflecting on his performance and are being inspired by them.  And he is continuing to widen and deepen the scope of his artistic expression.  I hope he will continue to do so for the rest of his life and be embraced by people around the world.     

 

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6 hours ago, monchan said:

Small notice in his A spin

Jnats is only his first outing of H&E, I'm sure Yuzu is finding ways to improve difficulty. Reading from his interview I feel he's thinking of adding 4A to this program.

waiiit i used to hate this spin but it actually looks pretty good now!! wow yuzu, way to always be stepping it up

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So many Japanese frontline healthcare workers are responding to Yuzu's message of encouragement with gratitude.  This tweet is transmitting the message from a hospital worker who has taken care of the OP.  The hospital worker says - To Hanyu-senshu, We have received your message.  From the Frontline. Thank you.  In this time of suffering we should be working closely together, let us join our efforts for the future of Japan.

 

 

 

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On 1/9/2021 at 1:03 PM, Geo1 said:

 

I think that it's a good thing. It will result in cleaner jumps and more competitive performances. He doesn't get rewarded for doing extra anyway.

100% agree, especially after what I saw a certain pairs-skater-turned-coach-turned-judge post on Twitter one time about Yuzu's StSeqs sometimes being 'messy'.... :scratch3:  It dawned on me after watching him live a few times that the judges must be mistaking Yuzu's high complexity of skating as something else. So I personally think it's very much to Yuzu's advantage to pull back a little. 

 

But it grinds my gears that his full brilliance doesn't get appreciated...

 

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