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Erm, I'm guessing that's the whole point of them not wanting to go back to Paris. I don't think @Winnie_20 was trying to ask you to do any of those. It's a fact of life that those less fortunate people exist in some parts of the world, and we can accept that. But if people are uncomfortable and feel unsafe with it, you can't really force them to shake off the feeling, and it is well within their rights not to want to go back to Paris because of that. Disclaimer, I am living in the Netherlands at the moment. Before that, I lived in Indonesia for the first 26 years of my life. I love Indonesia and am proud of being Indonesian. But now that I live here, I can understand why people would feel uncomfortable and unsafe travelling to Jakarta or other Indonesian cities (except maybe Bali). I've been robbed in Jakarta, I've also been robbed here. But overall I fell much safer here, even as a foreigner.

No, you weren't mean at all, that's why I listened

Oh no, this is too cute

This has pretty much been the main reason behind most of the, albeit mild as of late, overzealousness. Worry about him losing friends over fans reactions in other skaters' SNS, reading too much between the lines when he commented on using SEIMEI for PC (this is me and I think it was @WinForPooh who knocked some sense back into me😅), speculating what his interactions and/or lack of interactions with active and retired skaters must mean, extending his comment on image training to mean he would need so and so to train with him to get better at something, etc., etc., and now this. I mean, the tendency is unavoidable, perhaps. We so ardently love Zu, it comes with the territory. We kinda treat him like how we wanted to be treated, we projected unto him how we would feel, react, think if we were on his shoes. We need to be reminded often, that we are not Zu, Zu is not us. Hence, I suppose it's a good thing we have the Planet where when one or some of us set our beard on fire (a saying that probably only makes sense in Bahasa Indonesia, but 😅), there are others who would put it off, given that we actually let them.

Nope. Still maintaining my position that what Tutberidze did on Sunday, the (attempted) character assassination of her former student, is wrong. No matter the motivation. That's the part I'm judging (for which I gain no personal satisfaction whatsoever, by the way). And the reasons have all been elaborated repeatedly, we're turning into broken records. That's the last time I'm commenting on this matter.

Nah, I still stand by my opinion that Tutbe should not have done any of what she did on Sunday. I understand completely why she would be upset. I still don't think what she did is justifiable. Bringing in another pop culture reference from a show I adore as a comparison:

Apropos gif is apropos.

You just dashed my hope. I mean, I kinda suspected, but still.

Erm, Mai skated to Mission Impossible? When? I need to watch if she did.

I... am going out for a walk. Planet better not be on fire when I come back. I mean, we just put this one off. Russia FS fandom, can't you chill just for a minute?

NBC mucking the water. Murica, can't help but meddling.

Ah, joining you now that Medv has replied with such class. Eyebrow game will never be THAT on point tho I've never been proud of her skating, but this moment, THIS MOMENT. Hat's off to you, girly. Re: Tsurkaya,

Joining in, but like this:

We live for the DRAMATM.

Titus Andromedon squad!!! He would know how to sass his way out of Tutberidze's clutch. Quick Medv, get yourself a Titus!

That's not the part of my post that you quoted, so I have no way to know that's what you mean. I responded to your respond based on what you quoted from my original post. Lipnitskaya wasn't able to do anything to truly damage Tut. Medv does have popularity and history on her side if she want to yield them. About Eteri destroying herself, take a look again at the 2nd part of the post of mine you just quoted. Better yet, take a look at the fandom yourself. The one outside the Planet, I mean.

Medv is giving her statement tomorrow. That's the doing part I am referring to. Not all of Tutberidze's current students can escape her clutch unscathed. Look at what's happening with Medv now. ___ Also, look at how divided the fandom is. I still do not get why exactly people who claim to know the kind of person Tutberidze is, still maintain an 18 yo should have read what she would do today, and prevented it. Whatever Medv would have done, by their own account, they should know Tut would turn it ugly. Sometimes my brain fails to compute how such logic can occur let alone is repeatedly voiced.

Which is exactly why I do not get why you still think Medv is also at fault here.

Disclaimer, I am not a fan of either Tutberidze or Medvedeva. But, no. I still do not think what Tut did today is justifiable in any way, shape, or form. Why exactly Medv moves out, how exactly it went down, WHEN exactly it all happens, those are no longer relevant. What Tut did today is a character assassination of her former student. She is not only the adult but also the figure of authority. This is not how she should have handled it. Especially after what went down with Lipnitskaya and Pitkev. She never learns. Part of me wants Medv to destroy her. But I also know of the negative impact it might have on the youngins left at the club, so I hope Medv will choose the higher ground. Whatever will be tomorrow, will be. ... I guess.

Yep. ___ Plus, Tutbe drags her other students into this as well. Also, Tutbe is the one with past ugly breakups in the not-so-opaque closet. Any angle you look this from, this has become Tutbe's fault in its entirety.

Pass some for me, please. I'll get some drinks. Request?

Mai ganba!!!!

I am talking about the whole "tutu" talk.

If you two had just jinxed her, I am haunting you both for the entirety of the next season

I can't. It's gonna take too much of my energy to point each and every proposal that I think is beyond ridiculous, and the wasted energy isn't going to affect whether the proposal gets approved or not. I'll wait to rage until the new rules are officially announced.