Yatagarasu Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 7 hours ago, Nuitsuki said: This. This is what makes me feel uncomfortable the most. [snip] Training along one (1) direct competitor is one thing, but four (4)? (one could argue that only Boyang is at the same level, but still, all the guys are more or less main stars of big feds). Beside, nobody likes their rivals to know all their moves. Honestly? I have no idea. Boyang is the biggest problem here. He is his direct competitor, and then comes Jason because while Jason himself isn't there, Nathan sure is, and USFSA would love to hear a little oh hey, you know what happened? Kolyada on the RusFed side. Heck you don't even have to be there, people talk in the corridors, locker rooms, this, that happened. Even with an NDA at least Boyang would know. All they need to see is one full RT of each and that's it, done. So I have no idea. It's possible this is why the separate ice is for right from the start but talk about any relaxing atmosphere being nixed in the bud. Can't say that I'm too thrilled about it but it is what it is. As long as Yuzuru's happy with his training conditions, all good. If he's not then I imagine, at least I hope, that he'll indicate that in some way. Yes, yes, I know but what else, nothing we can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoa Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, Yoa said: Seems like she’s more than cool with it! She mentioned Jun so I take from that he isn’t leaving TCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucyH Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 1 hour ago, robin said: Seems like she’s more than cool with it! She mentioned Jun so I take from that he isn’t leaving TCC But notice she did not mention Lizbet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katonice Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Who is Cha's main coach btw? I thought it was Brian, since he's the one who goes with him to comps. But in one of the recent articles Brian said he intends to be the main coach for Yuzu, Boyang and Evgenia. Or was that just a happenstance omission? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucyH Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 18 minutes ago, katonice said: Who is Cha's main coach btw? I thought it was Brian, since he's the one who goes with him to comps. But in one of the recent articles Brian said he intends to be the main coach for Yuzu, Boyang and Evgenia. Or was that just a happenstance omission? I think the shuffled the staff so likely that Brian is the main coach for the three most highest profile skaters: Yuzu, Jin and Zhenya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatjaThera Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I think there are some exaggerations made around here on various topics. Regarding Phil's article, as I've said and someone also pointed out, the way a question is asked can change the way the answer is given. If Brian was asked directly whether he asked for Yuzu's permission to get all the other skaters, obviously, he'd say: "No, not really." Because at the end of the day, Yuzu calling the shots at TCC is bad for Brian and TCC's image. The flippant way he put it might also be strategy, because it's good if people underestimate how much input Yuzu actually has. It might also be the truth. As we know, even when he mentioned Yuzu wanting to come to TCC to Javi, Javi didn't react much. It might have been the same here. At the end of the day, only Yuzu and Brian know. But it doesn't need inventing quotes to give true quotes a different feel than they were meant to have. People also seem to exaggerate the Yuzu and Javi trained separately at the end part. They trained separately two days a week. The rest of the time, they were together. That's really not as huge a deal as it seems. Javi was there and saw Yuzu struggle while he was recovering his jumps. TCC also prides itself on its sense of community. Which means the skaters and their immediately close staff are part of the community. They support and respect each other. If anyone were to leak private information on other skaters, it'd definitely be a big issue. They have strict rules there and I'm pretty sure they have ways to enforce them. They also say that before there are individual country teams, there is Team Cricket. That said, I'm sure the team knows very well how some things are best kept secret and I suspect will have ways to ensure that. Of course much of that could be just PR talk. I know there are also people out there saying bad stuff about Brian, Tracy and TCC (though admittedly I didn't find the actual stuff, just vague hints). On the other hand, I'm not sure Yuzu will continue being as secretive - or if so, for little other reason than the fun of it - so I think it'll be fine either way. As for the previous talk of Yuzu and Brian's relationship, I wonder and worry about it at times, too. It does seem, rather too often for comfort that Brian doesn't really know or understand Yuzu. However I agree with a previous post that said Yuzu's relationship with Brian is less fatherly and more professional. I'm not at all sure, but I think in Japanese society, parents are parents and coaches/teacher are in their own category. Still very important and influential in the way they bring up a child, but not necessarily as emotionally close. Or close just in the areas that are directly related. Brian may not know Yuzu as a person very well. May not know his favorite food, his favorite music, his favorite game or even what he studies too closely (although I hope Yuzu has shared some stuff with him, because it's really interesting how he seeks to apply it to his skating). But I think he knows Yuzu the skater very well. Including what makes him click and what not. So, as far as skating, I think they're close and more than that, anything like the closeness between Brian and Javi may have never even occurred to Yuzu. I don't think he was ever really close like that to Nanami-sensei either. So I actually wouldn't be entirely surprised if the Boyang approach was actually meant to light a fire under Yuzu a bit. And the 'see his reaction' was more to see how motivated or not the move would make him. We'll see either way. I also wouldn't take the 'star wars' comment too seriously. It obviously means that they'll probably alternate things to give them breaks from each other and anyway they'll first have to test various combinations to see what works best. For example, Yuzu might feel fired up for quads when training with Boyang, or fired up for spins/steps when training with Jason. He might also feel more tense or relaxed depending who he's sharing the ice with and either of those can be good depending on the day, the schedule etc. Jason might like being on the ice when Yuzu and maybe younger guys do quads, to try to learn, or he might feel better when they're not around, not to feel the pressure. Different people, different personalities, can influence each other in different ways. So, they'll try stuff out. It's also natural they won't always all train together. At TCC, skaters get individual, customized training schedules. They train a different number of days per week (Yuzu, for example, according to Brian's book, does cycles of 1 day off, followed by 3 days of training. Javi had 5 days training, Saturday off (no idea about Sunday, actually.) So how they meet, when they meet, who they meet with will also depend on what kind of schedule they'll have and it's too early to know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralucutzagy Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 WTF??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeyra Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 So... this happened. Eteri vs Orser round 1, the case of the switching ladies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Lol I was expecting this. Totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralucutzagy Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Haha, this off season is getting really really crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeyra Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Fay said: Lol I was expecting this. Totally. When I was told rumors about Bet returning to Russia my first thought was what if she went back to Eteri!?... and she did. This is going to be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just now, xeyra said: When I was told rumors about Bet returning to Russia my first thought was what if she went back to Eteri!?... and she did. This is going to be fun. I hope Brian and Co enjoy the fun. A strategic move on Eteri’s part to adopt Brian’s student? This is getting hilarious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralucutzagy Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I'm sure Eteri got her back immediately! In 2 seconds! Dear God! The popcorn! We need lots and lots of popcorn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 But what for? Does Eteri think Lilbet is going to know all of Brian’s secrets or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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