Nuitsuki Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 @hoodie axel hm interesting, I didn’t think about that before. I’ll rewatch her programs to check. Package-wise, i think Eteri team did amazing work to cover up the weaknesses of her skaters. So kudos for the team for that. The thing is, i judge based on what her skaters are able to put on the table, not what i think her skaters aren’t unable to do hypothetically. If their weaknesses aren’t apparent, or well-covered to my amateur eyes, i might give them a pass. Same apply with other skaters. And no, you’re absolutely fine it’s just i’m a bit conservative and awkward around people i just met. So what are your thoughts? Would love to hear more from you guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 It’s so interesting to read everyone’s opinions, now I‘m looking forward to the actual discussions after a round of scoring I have a feeling everybody is ready to judge already? Should we set a deadline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xen Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 About ladies...I think in terms of avg skating skills, fundamentals level the JPN ladies are the best. Beautiful knee-usage, nice edges, ability to accelrate. Satton is great at multi directional skating. But, I would probably give second place to Mai Mihara-there is this fancam of her WC2017 FS, and the one thing that stood out to me, in my memory was just how her speed never dropped. No matter what she did, she managed to control her speed to be very consistent throughout. Also, while she can accelerate her twizzles, I think she is fairly consistent in speed in her twizzles, regardless of whether its her favored or non-favored direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinForPooh Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I'm just here like, yes, bring me more praise of Mai. Bring it all. On her day, she is mesmerising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodie axel Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 14 hours ago, hoodie axel said: 9.5+: Yuzu and Patrick-both are able to gain speed out of nowhere, using deep edges to gain momentum. Patrick looks way better in fancams-you really get a much greater sense of his speed and absolute stability as he goes from element to element. His skating reminds me of water-it is just a neverending flow. Yuzu gains speed from nowhere, and is incredibly fast. But I would rather say Yuzu is like the wind-he doesn't so much flow, but "breezes by" gently from element to element. It's pretty healing watching both of them (when they are not falling of course). I find your description for Yuzuru fitting Yuna so much, though her edge quality wasn't quite the same as Kostner's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xen Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 48 minutes ago, hoodie axel said: I find your description for Yuzuru fitting Yuna so much, though her edge quality wasn't quite the same as Kostner's. Cool, but I think that "breezy" quality is something I find often enough with JPN skaters. Something about their SS means they just flow well across the ice. As for Patrick and Yuzu...ahem, I looked at videos and it seems Patrick has better clockwise twizzles than Yuzu. *pokes Yuzu-get on it man* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodie axel Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 21 minutes ago, Xen said: As for Patrick and Yuzu...ahem, I looked at videos and it seems Patrick has better clockwise twizzles than Yuzu. *pokes Yuzu-get on it man* It's OK, they have different qualities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xen Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, hoodie axel said: It's OK, they have different qualities. I know I know....just I'm a very spoiled fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murieleirum Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I tried judging Medvedeva's SP in Worlds 2017. I guess it wasn't that hard. Only negative GOE was on the combo. Because, you know, wrong edge or very unclear edge on Flip/Lutz jumps can get -1 to -2 GOE. And that wasn't inside edge really, you don't even need the slow mo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neenah Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Which competition are we judging? was this decided and I missed it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 38 minutes ago, Neenah said: Which competition are we judging? was this decided and I missed it ? @Xen‚s suggestion was CoC ladies (SP) for starters which I think is a good idea. Do you have any other suggestions? So I guess to start we would need our TP @Xen and @Fay to lay the groundwork first? The elements and the technical mistakes need to be entered into @Raomina‚s web-app before the judges can work with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuitsuki Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Am I the only one who gonna apply deduction for 'bad take off'? (In this case: full blade toe pick). This channel usually upload whole group instead of individual performance: https://www.youtube.com/user/reginahwang They also upload group 2 SP COC (with Mai and Alina from gr 1): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Nuitsuki said: Am I the only one who gonna apply deduction for 'bad take off'? (In this case: full blade toe pick). I've applied it during my test run hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodie axel Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 @robin All the ladies, or a subset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 hour ago, hoodie axel said: @robin All the ladies, or a subset? I think for practice purposes it would be better to score skaters of different levels so I would personally be for doing all 12 ladies but if it’s too much we can just do the top 6, so that’s Mai, Marin, Wakaba, Alina, Elena and Gabby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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