xeyra Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 4 hours ago, Lyyli said: In fact I have been following FS from the 70´s so I have seen lots of different Turandots during these decades. Watched also Marin´s Turandot but personally I like Shoma´s version a lot more. I don't have particular feelings for Marin's Turandot right now, though she has some really lovely moments in there (like the spiral) and I'm just glad she toned down the drama hands. Shoma's Turandot I like more too but right now I preferred the original version, which is natural since the one I've seen most is his GPF 2015 performance so he had matured it by then. Plus I preferred the music cuts better there. I'm waiting for Turandot 2.0 to grow more and it should. Winter, I think, is in a much better state and I like it a lot, which is also natural since he performed it many times during shows so it had time to mature greatly. I'm just not sure if between Marin, Shoma and Sui/Han, as well as any other juniors/seniors that might bring their own, I won't want to forget Nessun Dorma even exists by the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
org Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 33 分ぐらい, Murieleirumさんが言いました: Mmh not only performance but also coreography and skating skills and, overall, they were balanced PCS. Strict if you compare them to PCS today, or if you compare them to Patrick's PCS or Takahashi's PCS at the time (it was said more times that Yuzu's SS were already as good as theirs, but since he was young, he was held back), but balanced. Had Yuzu been showerd in 90's PCS since he was 18, I don't know if his skating would have resented it. Maybe not. But Shoma said it himself - getting this kind of scores in September makes you worried. They are not helping him at all. I´m sorry for I comented by mistake. I´m not good at English so I don't understand correctly. I feel that skatecanada is bit solty lol. This season, so far, some people feel Lombardia was generosity and USinternational was solty. Sometimes scores depend on competitions a little. I think that impression is free but it is important to meet requirements of 5 components in order to get scores. Because PCS is also technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murieleirum Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Just now, org said: I´m sorry for I comented by mistake. I´m not good at English so I don't understand correctly. I feel that skatecanada is bit solty lol. This season, so far, some people feel Lombardia was generosity and USclassic was solty. Sometimes scores are depend on competitions a little. I think that impression is free but it is important to meet requirements of 5 components in order to get scores. Because PCS is also technique. I'm sorry I forgot to notice it was your first post c: Welcome to the Planet! Yes, Skate Canada is definitely salty all the time with Yuzuru. Since he was very young and even now. Who knows when he'll conquer the hearts of Canadians! Maybe when Patrick will retire, lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meoima Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 One more thing to be sad for Lombardia judging, that the top scores there were close and higher than this, ughhh judges make me want to vomit: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meoima Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Autumn Classic judge line up... https://twitter.com/oro1_/status/909864099542007810 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liv Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 10 hours ago, Murieleirum said: I'm sorry I forgot to notice it was your first post c: Welcome to the Planet! Yes, Skate Canada is definitely salty all the time with Yuzuru. Since he was very young and even now. Who knows when he'll conquer the hearts of Canadians! Maybe when Patrick will retire, lol... Be fair! Many Canadians love Yuzu. I do not want to think about his SC marks... or some performanve..... audiences love him.... he got standing Os at worlds 2013. Quebec city GPF.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murieleirum Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, liv said: Be fair! Many Canadians love Yuzu. I do not want to think about his SC marks... or some performanve I don't doubt Yuzu has thousands of Canadian fans it's just that some competitions are more strict than others, and Skate Canada has never been forgiving with Yuzu's mistakes, which were costly in PCS more than TCS, sometimes. Also, since it's been 9 years since Yuzu came to Italy, I'm now very curious to know how Italy will treat him at Worlds. Of course, it will greatly depend on his performance, but since they treated Shoma royally this time around, I wonder if he's gonna have the same treatment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liv Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Ok, that's better, lol. SC has its own agenda and the judges who judge it are not Canadians.... I think it does not help that SC was often his first gp so he was also rougher around the edges.... it makes it look like we do not like him. I think we would keep him here if we could!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EisElle Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 hours ago, liv said: I think it does not help that SC was often his first gp so he was also rougher around the edges.... it makes it look like we do not like him. I think we would keep him here if we could!!! I think his main problem with SC exactly that, plus people forgetting he is human and usually he's not on top form that early in the season. I remember Brian telling Yuzu (if I'm not mistaken after 2015 SC FS) "Just a bit more of conditioning". So Yuzuru gave judges excuses to pull him down (which they eagerly did. Let's say he's never got the privilege of leniency in SC) And who knows, maybe actually it was a strategy to make Demon!Yuzu come out and play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katonice Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Jackie's review of the first few Challenger competitions. http://www.rockerskating.com/news/2017/9/18/opining-on-us-classic-and-lombardia-part-1-early-signs-of-contenders What I found amusing were his comments on the scoring near the end of the article. He's being PC about everything of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaichi Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 2:14 AM, Murieleirum said: Or maybe fall/pop a quad... and then upgrade that 3Lz. can't agree more😆😆 let's see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murieleirum Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 8 hours ago, katonice said: Jackie's review of the first few Challenger competitions. http://www.rockerskating.com/news/2017/9/18/opining-on-us-classic-and-lombardia-part-1-early-signs-of-contenders What I found amusing were his comments on the scoring near the end of the article. He's being PC about everything of course. Quote Chen, likely in an effort to continue to push himself as an artist, chose two unfamiliar pieces - a song called Nemesis for the short and the soundtrack from Mao’s Last Dancer with Stravinsky’s The Rite of Spring for the free. Both programs are yet another step in the right direction for Chen as an all-around skater. The music you choose doesn't make you an all-around skater. Putting together excellent technique in jumps, spins, skating skills, transitions in and out of jumps, sensitivity to music and an original and personal interpretation of the music you chose, makes you an all-around skater. Plus, warhorses or unknown music, you're supposed to be able to interpret it all. You don't get 'more artistic' by choosing an unknown piece. LOL. To me it seems like Jackie's trying to squeeze out compliments and flatteries badly connected to the info he has on the skaters. It's irritating. But I'm nervous and full of these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyria Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Murieleirum said: The music you choose doesn't make you an all-around skater. Putting together excellent technique in jumps, spins, skating skills, transitions in and out of jumps, sensitivity to music and an original and personal interpretation of the music you chose, makes you an all-around skater. Plus, warhorses or unknown music, you're supposed to be able to interpret it all. You don't get 'more artistic' by choosing an unknown piece. LOL. If music choices is all it takes, then we can all go rent some skates, waddle our way through a varied playlist, and TA-DA! Bunch of allround skaters coming right up to a rink near you Now seriously: I get why they're praising Nathan to the heavens propaganda machine revving up for Olys, ejem and I give him his choices stand out in a sea of recycled and warhorse programs. I even like the music and think they both have a bigger potential than last season's, but rough as they are it's only downhill from here in terms of transitions and quality of performing. We're talking about a 6-7 quad FP, there's no way of delivering that without taking almost everything else out, so... there goes his broadening artistic expression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoa Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 We will know olympic medals' design this week. Please make it extra pretty, shiny and shimmery so Yuzu has additional motivation. The more bling bling the better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axelnojutsu Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Yoa said: We will know olympic medals' design this week. Please make it extra pretty, shiny and shimmery so Yuzu has additional motivation. The more bling bling the better... maybe add some ruffle just for good measure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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