General Yuzuru Chat

[Bilge]

37 minutes ago, yuzuuu said:

I entered an art competition with submissions of yuzu fanart and I got into the final round 

(but well I don't think I'll proceed anymore haha, just realised it's another country)

Amazing! Is it okay if you share it or heve you post it here already? I'd like to see it ^^

[micaelis]

8 hours ago, Floria said:

 

I guess they will add Yuzu if he participates after all...

If they do he'll skate onto the ice and be introduced just like the last several years - dead last.  Those productions ALWAYS introduce the best and most popular last.  Will the producers welcome him?  I remember a few years ago someone in the ice show industry saying that Hanyu's presence on a show guaranteed a sell-out.  Draw your own conclusions.

[yuzuuu]

1 minute ago, Bilge said:

Amazing! Is it okay if you share it or heve you post it here already? I'd like to see it ^^

I've posted some long long ago here XD 

[Floria]

Hace 1 hora, micaelis said:

If they do he'll be introduced just like the last several years - dead last.  Those productions ALWAYS introduce the best and most popular last.  Will the producers welcome him?  I remember a few years ago someone in the ice show industry saying that Hanyu's presence on a show guaranteed a sell-out.  Draw your own conclusions.

Last year he was the last one to be announced two weeks before the first perfomance, but he had no injury then, so...

[micaelis]

3 hours ago, xeyra said:

Maybe this should be taken to the General Skating Chat for further talk, but this is an interesting point because judges had no issues with NOT establishing a level playing field in the ladies (where Evgenia was winning with very big margins) until very recently (with Zagitova's push in PCS). So it's interesting the contrast with the men, which I think is due to the men being far less consistent and the big pushes in BV, so leveling the playing field is easier. Then there's the fact Yuzu wasn't able to capitalize on his NHK/GPF 2015 runaway wins when he lost in Boston and started slowly in the 2016-2017 season (partly due to injury, partly due to the harder technical content in men that doesn't allow for much consistency). However, the PCS increase in men also is slower than in the ladies, because men are a mess most of the time.

Yuzu sets the bar in any competition.  Even when he skates last all those skaters in the hunt for medals know he's the one they have to beat.  The problem is that the only way they think they can beat him is by going after the high BV and hoping he'll make a mistake on a jump or two to make the impossible possible.  They know they can't beat him on spins, on step sequence, on choreographic sequence.  Those are the places he picks up so many of his GOEs.  As for PCS, they're still skating junior level, he's skating senior level.  I don't think the judges are deliberately underscoring his skates.  I think it's more that their expectations on his performances are so much higher than they have for his competitors.  If they were deliberately underscoring him that doesn't explain the fact that he's the only skater who has set any scoring records since the 2013 French grand prix when Patrick Chan broke Yuzu's short program record, only to have Yuzu reclaim the record two or three weeks later.  After that as far as setting scoring records Yuzu's been the only game in town.

[MrPudding]

king of tourism

[meoima]

5 hours ago, xeyra said:

 

Maybe this should be taken to the General Skating Chat for further talk, but this is an interesting point because judges had no issues with NOT establishing a level playing field in the ladies (where Evgenia was winning with very big margins) until very recently (with Zagitova's push in PCS). So it's interesting the contrast with the men, which I think is due to the men being far less consistent and the big pushes in BV, so leveling the playing field is easier. Then there's the fact Yuzu wasn't able to capitalize on his NHK/GPF 2015 runaway wins when he lost in Boston and started slowly in the 2016-2017 season (partly due to injury, partly due to the harder technical content in men that doesn't allow for much consistency). However, the PCS increase in men also is slower than in the ladies, because men are a mess most of the time.

Medvedeva got away with big PCS and GOE margin was also because Russian Federation is super influential. If Yuzuru were Russian/Canadian/American, I am certain he would have been treated the same.

[Yuazz]

1 hour ago, meoima said:

Medvedeva got away with big PCS and GOE margin was also because Russian Federation is super influential. If Yuzuru were Russian/Canadian/American, I am certain he would have been treated the same.

The story may be different if he was from one of the big federation. But for me, it's more interesting that yuzu was from not so influential federation. Even in Japan he was from Sendai, not so big for skating club. Right? He's coming as nobody and now he's a big star, without media hype. He become a big star pure because his talent and achievement. I'm still amazed by the fact that Japanese gold medalists in figure skating, men and ladies both were from Sendai. 

[Anony]

12 hours ago, monchan said:

The art upclose: 

I suppose all her paintings are in same style like this=)) 

19 hours ago, monchan said:

Yuzuru 

The piece can definitely be interesting to look at if you focus on purely colours and negative space. Imo the negative space of Ballade no. 1 shirt and the olympic rings are kind of fun. Also I like the light contrast between the indigo shadow and the purple. Imo this one doesn't necessary scream "Yuzuru Hanyu" to me I personally liked her other two pieces more. Even though the style of this piece is abstract, with loose lines, the brush strokes follow the contour of Yuzuru's figure which actually tightens the structure of the piece, which imo doesn't fit Yuzuru's light, airy movements. Actually I looked her up and it actually looks like a lot of her pieces are very stylised portraits and actually looked quite different from the three pieces she did of Yuzuru, so I wonder why she decided to mix up her style here

[wpisces]

2 hours ago, Yuazz said:

The story may be different if he was from one of the big federation. But for me, it's more interesting that yuzu was from not so influential federation. Even in Japan he was from Sendai, not so big for skating club. Right? He's coming as nobody and now he's a big star, without media hype. He become a big star pure because his talent and achievement. I'm still amazed by the fact that Japanese gold medalists in figure skating, men and ladies both were from Sendai. 

Yeah, everything about him ( talent, popularity...) has been slowly built up from year to year. He had never been labelled "prodigy" in early years like Yagudin, Plushenko, Mao... When he was a novice skater, nobody knew him. When he became Worlds Junior Champion in 2010, nobody expected him to grab gold 4 years later in Sochi. Even after winning Worlds bronde medal at the age of 17, he wasn't hyped up as much as Mao Asada or Marin Honda was. But what he has accomplished is even more than what a so-called prodigy could ever achieve.  

[Yuazz]

5 minutes ago, wpisces said:

Yeah, everything about him ( talent, popularity...) has been slowly built up from year to year. He had never been labelled "prodigy" in early years like Yagudin, Plushenko, Mao... When he was a novice skater, nobody knew him. When he became Worlds Junior Champion in 2010, nobody expected him to grab gold 4 years later in Sochi. Even after winning Worlds bronde medal at the age of 17, he wasn't hyped up like Mao Asada or Marin Honda. But what he has accomplished is even more than what a so-called prodigy could ever achieve.  

You know, even with 2 OGM back to back, there are still people who questioning yuzu's GOAT status  

imagine if he was from big federation.. Perhaps all media will hype him up as a God of figure skating. 

[KatjaThera]

OT, but, with the hope of not losing my job, I'm going to the parade in Sendai (and hopefully one of the Yomiuri exhibitions). I'll try my best to come up with a decent report afterwards!

[kiches]

1 minute ago, KatjaThera said:

OT, but, with the hope of not losing my job, I'm going to the parade in Sendai (and hopefully one of the Yomiuri exhibitions). I'll try my best to come up with a decent report afterwards!

Yay, have fun :). Sounds like it'll be a bit hectic. I wonder if they'd let you bring a selfie stick/monopod to try and get some better pictures.

 

Also, try a zunda shake/smoothie in Sendai if you get a chance, I really liked it.

[KatjaThera]

3 minutes ago, kiches said:

Yay, have fun :). Sounds like it'll be a bit hectic. I wonder if they'd let you bring a selfie stick/monopod to try and get some better pictures.

 

Also, try a zunda shake/smoothie in Sendai if you get a chance, I really liked it.

Thank you! I'm sure it'll be crazy and I might not even manage to get close enough to see him lol But it's more the idea of being part of his city celebrating him that I love. I have a deep-seated hate of selfie sticks, but I'll see what I can do lol.

 

I got some zunda cookies when I went to Sendai, but didn't get to try anything else. I loved those, though, so I'll definitely try that if I find it! I feel like trying a full meal of Sendai food, with gyutan and such as well... we'll see if I dare lol And of course, visit the fully renovated Ice Rink Sendai... So much to do, so little time lol

[wpisces]

26 minutes ago, wpisces said:

Yeah, everything about him ( talent, popularity...) has been slowly built up from year to year. He had never been labelled "prodigy" in early years like Yagudin, Plushenko, Mao... When he was a novice skater, nobody knew him. When he became Worlds Junior Champion in 2010, nobody expected him to grab gold 4 years later in Sochi. Even after winning Worlds bronde medal at the age of 17, he wasn't hyped up like Mao Asada or Marin Honda. But what he has accomplished is even more than what a so-called prodigy could ever achieve.  

Also, he has never been overscored.  His victory is what he's gifted for his hard- working and pure talent, not what judges favored him. 

 

16 minutes ago, Yuazz said:

You know, even with 2 OGM back to back, there are still people who questioning yuzu's GOAT status  

imagine if he was from big federation.. Perhaps all media will hype him up as a God of figure skating. 

Good for him. He doesn't need it. He's always doubted no matter if he wins or loses. Even if he wins, there are always people expecting him to flop and be taken over next competitions. When he loses, they even have more reasons to believe it.