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  1. Xen
    I second La La Land, the new warhorse of this season. Forgot about Madame Butterfly and Miss Saigon, staples for Ladies. Anything Puccini, heck it. But I don't think Conrcieto de Aranjuez is quite there yet, haven't seen it pop up that often.
  2. Xen
    Well mine initially was that his 4A is coming 19/20 though if that's the WC in Japan, then I guess we should speed it to 18/19 season for experimentation and solid in 19/20? Speaking of which, when is that 4-4 coming? Or maybe he'll grant us a 3A-4T? How did this go from layout to predicting when Yuzu is going to land certain jumps?
  3. Xen
    There might be some competition from Boyang Jin. What about Cha Junhwan? BOrser's team has nice edge jumps in general. What if Gogolev (sp?) gets it ratified in Juniors first?
  4. Xen
    Yes and no....I think his arms and limbs are not quite Yuzu's yet, but who knows what he'll develop into. Personally, the one I find closest is Shimada....though recently I think his limbs are flailing a bit more.
  5. Xen
    If Brian doesn't look at youtube all these years, what can we say? If he bothered to peek, his hair had fair warning...
  6. Xen
    1) So this is the 171--> 172 huh? But his legs do look naturally long (even in white pants). 2) His neck is really long...is that why the collar is never flipped down? Can he dress like this more often? 3) I feel bad for the female newscaster. She's aware she can't touch him at all, so when she has to get close to measure them, it really looks awkward Edit: 4) Who was he throwing shade to? The entire if you were taller with longer limbs, you'd look great no matter what, you don't necessarily need to have great techniques?
  7. Xen
    Speaking of which, much as Yuzu struggles with the entry of the flip jump, what are the chances he'll aim for a full quad arsenal? If someone (like Boyang) gets it before him, how much salt would there be?
  8. Xen
    Congrats! And yay, another person who has seen the light of sitspins (that going lower is easier to center)! And congrats on trying the layback! I still can't center an attitude spin yet....T_T My skating shoes ended up being 1 size too small, so I have to mail them back to Beijing...but otherwise, I got my hydroblade!
  9. Xen
    Would Brian have the time and energy to do so? He's got 3 male skaters gunning for the olympics under him, since no one mentioned Cha JunHwan.
  10. Xen
    Was thinking more of a layout like : 4Lz 4S 3F// 4Lo+3T 4T+3T 3A+0.5Lo+3S 3A 3Lz
  11. Xen
    I take back my word. Would this possibly replace the Combo of Doom in his layout?
  12. Xen
    I thought based on the interview over the 4 loop that Brian's resigned to Yuzuru, and is probably going to try his best to ensure that Yuzu can most efficiently/effectively reach his goals, without dying in the process. Maybe a 4 Lz+2T as a compromise? I wonder if it's physically possible to go 4 loop+3 T, usually you don't get enough momentum from a loop jump to chain a jump.
  13. Xen
    Chances of him going 4Lz+3T? No seriously, he's got enough edge running out at exits that I think he could pull it off.
  14. Xen
    If this were in the US, this warning just begs it to be stolen.....
  15. Xen
    I'd have to get on ice to experiment for you, and unfortunately my toes are in pain this week. Actually crossovers also push off from the knee I think (especially if you are using them to accelerate). The only advantage I can think of for the chasse, off the top of my head, is that it's easier to go from chasse to single foot turns and footwork, than from crossovers.
  16. Xen
    I actually think this entry is the harder one, since you are rotating up to your toepicks, it feels unatural, and if your free leg swings out (rather than up), you can throw off the jump. But it could be more efficient, since you get the full extension of your leg plus feet for the spring up.
  17. Xen
    Well the skid based entry is the one I heard mentioned while learning as a kid in the US. Actually I don't get it that much since I've yet to learn Axels yet. So again, theoretically, I'd refer to this post from Fay: Specifically this section: "Another problematic point of the Axel is a lift-off into the jump from the entry trajectory, which can be carried out either through a skid or through a toe-pick.I do not train my athletes specifically for either of these movements, as I proceed from the proposition that skaters must find for themselves the method convenient for them. But I depend on their skating skills, since when going into an Axel, athletes make a 3turn through the toe-pick. So you need to make sure that the entry curve of lobe in the waltz jump and in the Axel is not straight or only slightly curvy, it should be a true curve of lobe the way it should be in a 3turn. At its end, the skater has to push off the ice so that the lobe itself creates a rotational motion." Thankfully it's kind of lunch break, so I can look. I went ahead and found a youtube vid of Javi's 3A with a slow-mo section. And the difference between his and Yuzu's 3A entries is now clearer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jowd4uGc8hg Here for reference. - Javi's skid-based entry: his axel take off point, he's still on his blade, the rocker portion. He does not really have the toepicks as the last part of the blade leaving the ice. In fact his entire foot appears relatively flat when he leaves the ice. You can tell kind of from the giant spray of ice that goes up when he takes off. The skid controls the edge and allows Javi to start the transfer of the weight to his right leg for rotations. Yuzuru's the one I've been looking at for a longer time. As reference: https://youtu.be/Fu7zyt7f9fc One of his no speed axels. If you look at the take off point of Yuzuru's axels, he doesn't have that giant spray of ice. In his axels, the last point of contact are the the bottom topicks, as his foot is rather straight when he takes off. So I'm guessing the edge based take off that Brian mentions is the toe-pick take off that Viktor refers to. As for which one is more effective/efficient....no idea here. I lean towards the toe/edge one personally, since I find it gives me a greater spring up. And since both my salchow and loop have the toepick leaving last during the spring-up, it's easier for me to remember.
  18. Xen
    @Hydroblade: We're just image training you for ACI. If you can endure this, you will live through the ACI Yuzu madness.... (Psst, hey guys, let's grab her a seat really close by the rink so she gets to see him up-close during ACI...we'll call it endurance training for the rest of the season...I'll bring smelling salts or something so in case something happens, we can get her patched back up)
  19. Xen
    4 Lz might take less time to stablize than the 4 Loop. Personal opinion warning (and a bit of skating technicals warning too): - The difficulty of the loop jump is that it is essentially a power backwards 3 turn when you enter. 3 Turns normally require you to straighten up your leg a bit and shift your weight to the heel, to enable the turn (before pressing down and shifting to the front for gliding again). However, all edge jumps, including axel, require a part where you essentially spring up (straighten leg) and shift your weight towards the bottom 2 picks of your toe pick to get the lift. If you add in the arm swing (which actually feels opposite of what I do for my backturns), your entire body when doing the lift for the loop is somewhat against what you actually do for a back 3 turn. This is what makes the entry of the loop, and the jump itself, hard and slightly hard to control. You're also less able to rely on speed, so usually the loop (in my opinion) has the lowest height and distance of all the jumps, which makes it harder to get the airtime necessary to do the rotations. - The salchow as a jump also faces this problem, but it's somewhat mitigated by the free leg swinging up into the jump. This way you get to use the free leg more for the lift height and distance, and it balances your body a bit more. From my experience, it's harder to mess up a salchow entry lift. - All toe assisted jumps use the picking leg as a pole vault to vault up. Of all the toe jumps, I think the flip and lutz probably have the most height and distance (flip especially) since the transitions are suppose to help you take advantage of the speed and momentum you get going into the jump. His WTT 4 lz looks overrotated, hence why his landing was scratchy, but that might be better than popping and unsure entries for the loop. Another thing I want to add, but this is purely theoretical. In theory, I find Yuzuru a very efficient jumper. Efficient as in his quick entries generally is the best method to efficiently generate height and distance for his jumps (look at his lutzes). Otherwise the long glide that other skaters do, theoretically detract from the power in the lift, that you generate from gliding speed (since the speed would decrease the longer you hold the edge). This is also why I'm really puzzled by Shoma's flip, since his left leg pre-rotation would theoretically detract from his jump's power- I'm surprised he manages to lift off at all actually. Forgot who asked about axels and axel entry types. But a rinkmate who is going to work on axels soon, said that he's only aware of a russian style and a japanese style of axel entry. I'll try to poke him a bit more about this, but I'm not sure how much variation there is on axel entry. It's all a skid-based entry, seems to be a lift off speed/quickness issue for how Yuzuru seems more “springy" in his axels.
  20. Xen
    Unless Yuzu beats him to it...Boyang said that he wants to do a program of all quads. That has to get under Yuzuru's skin right?
  21. Xen
    I am resigned to the fact that I will cry for at least 3 japanese ladies after the bloodbath nationals.Speaking of which, will japan compete in the team competition at Olympics? That could be an even worse hit for whomever has to do the FS portion.
  22. Xen
    It seems judges do less shennanigans on the PCS scores when Worlds and GPF roll around. But the GOE is another thing. I feel somewhat relieved that even if they tighten up the PCS scores, Yuzu won't be that impacted, since his PCS scores haven't received the benefit of the doubt from a practical perspective. I'm actually a bit surprised that Patrick didn't have many 10's.
  23. Xen
    I would bet on Boyang, he's got far less to lose than Nathan. Boyang is a total space cadet. One of my rinkmates follow his Weibo, so I'm sorely tempted to poke him indirectly about whether or not he has a quad flip (that's the only one he hasn't done right?). But possibly move from this "4Lz3T 3A // 4T" to 4Lz //3A 4T-3T ( or 4L-3T)? I think all the new jumps will be in the FS, because the schedule for the men's won't give the guys a good rest if they over-extend themselves. The key is to ensure their own SP scores stay high enough and close enough to the leader, then it's just a question of who handles the pressure of the long program better. You mean "doing a Yuzuru"? Actually I think he would adapt to the 4 minute system better than other guys due to his difficult and super quick entries. He's been at it for years, other guys not so long, so they might be forced to give up the steps before jumps. Then we need to drag all the judges to a super secret training site and force them to learn how to do a back counter on ice so they actually appreciate the difficulty. I'm still salty about his GOE scores for his counter -3A.
  24. Xen
    His salt can feed the world.... 1) Not sure what GS will say if it impacts PChiddy...at least the most vocal support tends to come from that corner, especially when compulsory figures gets mentioned (what's the obsession with that? Also, what's with PChiddy's deep edges and his not so stellar edge jumps? The two do not compute). 2) I would imagine the major errors are a. falls (more than 1 perhaps); b. missing the combo jump (though I don't think Yuzu got a 10 in pcs?). The first one does mess up the music's flow, so it would make sense, the second one is already heavily peanlized though. 3) In agreement on that 4) I actually thought Yuzu would adapt to that better, since he has quicker entry for his jumps versus the other men. It does create problems if you want to add steps in front of jumps since that eats at both stamina and time, but Yuzuru can probably manage. Not so sure of the other guys. So if this holds, then he might be the only one with the obvious +GOE for steps preceeding jumps. Though with only 7 jumps, the jump-that-shall-not-be-named is coming?
  25. Xen
    Nah, that's just a normal delayed axel- a lot of the men from the 80's and early 90's all did it in exhibition. I wonder if he's thinking of leaving his mark via spins instead, since he said he wanted to experiment with spin variations...though right now it looks like the closest might be the Hanyu lunge.
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