Tsubakindy Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 2:41 PM, hoodie axel said: Lord I hope not. Nope, it's an amalgamation of what his fans say about him and all the ballet he's done. Expand My goodness, I must be half-blind blind until now! Where are those balletic moves everyone are talking about? If I were a fs skater, i'd get 90++ pcs now just by landing quads and do sexy balletic moves+spread eagles? PCS? What are those we dont really review them, says ISU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunna Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 10:34 AM, Xen said: Shoma: 4F 4Lo 4T3T 3A1Lo3F//3A 4S2T 3Lz- with 2 GOE avg, looking at 98.1 but I think he's better off switching the 3A combo and the solo 3A around in order, or would that be too tiring? Expand Actually I think Shoma's stamina is quite good, so he can do two 3As in the second half and 4T rather then 4S 4F 4Lo 4S 4T3T//4T 3A1Lo3F 3A2T - in the best form or he can drop 4S for 3S2T, or maybe he'll go for 3Lz again but in the first part I bet. Also I think for guys there's no need for too much backloading cuz the price for a mistake will be higher, better go for your most stable jumps in the end like Yuzu's and Shoma's 3A. As for Yuzu all will depend on his recovery first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodie axel Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Nathan's max layout, without the 3A (assuming he brings back his edge quads): 4F 4Lz-3T 4Lo 4S ===== 4T 4T-3T 3Lz-1Lo-3F A truck if he hits. I'm not too expectant, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeyra Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 3:00 PM, Lunna said: Actually I think Shoma's stamina is quite good, so he can do two 3As in the second half and 4T rather then 4S 4F 4Lo 4S 4T3T//4T 3A1Lo3F 3A2T - in the best form or he can drop 4S for 3S2T, or maybe he'll go for 3Lz again but in the first part I bet. Also I think for guys there's no need for too much backloading cuz the price for a mistake will be higher, better go for your most stable jumps in the end like Yuzu's and Shoma's 3A. As for Yuzu all will depend on his recovery first. Expand Shoma is more likely to do 3A3T and 4T2T. On 6/7/2018 at 3:15 PM, hoodie axel said: Nathan's max layout, without the 3A (assuming he brings back his edge quads): 4F 4Lz-3T 4Lo 4S ===== 4T 4T-3T 3Lz-1Lo-3F A truck if he hits. I'm not too expectant, however. Expand He'd repeat the 4Lz or 4F, not the 4T. And he HAS to have a 3A. It's obligatory. 4Lz-3T 4F 4Lo 4Lz ===== 4S 4T--1Lo-3F 3A-3T Without the 4Lo 4Lz-3T 4F 4Lz 4S ===== 4T--1Lo-3F 3A 3A-2T or 3Lz3T? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodie axel Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 3:18 PM, xeyra said: He'd repeat the 4Lz or 4F, not the 4T. Expand Well I guess I did say max layout. But the problem is, I don't think I remember a single clean attempt of the 4Lz or the 4F in the second half for the bonus, and wouldn't it actually come much later here? Though I guess the program could be choreographed in a way that makes sure he gets out the first four quads very quickly in the first half, and then waits for the second half to attempt the 4Lz (and it won't really affect his PCS). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeyra Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 3:21 PM, hoodie axel said: Well I guess I did say max layout. But the problem is, I don't think I remember a single clean attempt of the 4Lz or the 4F in the second half for the bonus, and wouldn't it actually come much later here? Expand Not really, it depends on when he'd place it in his layout. And max layout would mean he'd repeat 4Lz or 4F, otherwise it's not really maxed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodie axel Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 3:24 PM, xeyra said: Not really, it depends on when he'd place it in his layout. And max layout would mean he'd repeat 4Lz or 4F, otherwise it's not really maxed out. Expand Yeah, I maybe should have said "realistically" maxed out. Maybe. I just don't remember a clean attempt at all in the second half (which is where I'd expect most repeated quads to be). 3A is obligatory? Yeah, I'm probably messing up there. 4Lz-3T 4F 4Lo 4Lz ===== 4S 4T--1Lo-3F 3A-3T Seems about right, though has he ever attempted a -1Lo-3F out of a 4T? But the 4S in the second half isn't always too clean either... This kid's a wild card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OonsieHui Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 2:06 PM, Cerunias said: Are you sure anyone can trust the judges to mark costume choice?? Expand I don't think most of us don't even trust the judges to mark skating choices so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Where can I find all the technical proposals that were passed today? (minus the amendments) eta: nvm I found it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeyra Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 3:27 PM, hoodie axel said: Yeah, I maybe should have said "realistically" maxed out. Maybe. I just don't remember a clean attempt at all in the second half (which is where I'd expect most repeated quads to be). 3A is obligatory? Yeah, I'm probably messing up there. 4Lz-3T 4F 4Lo 4Lz ===== 4S 4T--1Lo-3F 3A-3T Seems about right, though has he ever attempted a -1Lo-3F out of a 4T? But the 4S in the second half isn't always too clean either... This kid's a wild card. Expand He's done it before in practices, but how reliable it is I don't know. Much like placing a 4Lo in his layout: how successful is that jump in practice and will he risk it? As for quad repetition, he has repeated the 4F successfully before so that could work but he'd need to do 4F3T instead of 4Lz3T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeyra Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 3:33 PM, robin said: Where can I find all the technical proposals that were passed today? (minus the amendments) Expand https://www.isu.org/isu-congresses Check the Agenda (Communication 2156). It has all the proposals, minus whatever Amendments were done during the congress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoa Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 From FSU: "The solo jumps in the SP will now be predeterminated for each season (like in juniors). 18-19 : Flip, 19-20 : Loop and 20-21: Lutz." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodie axel Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 There's this weird notion that we might see more -3Lo combos with the men. Can someone explain? Certainly not with any of the top men, unless they really want to do a 3A-3Lo, or smash their hips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 3:38 PM, Yoa said: From FSU: "The solo jumps in the SP will now be predeterminated for each season (like in juniors). 18-19 : Flip, 19-20 : Loop and 20-21: Lutz." Expand Yeah that’s why I asked for the link but I think that poster is mistaken. It would be outrageous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinForPooh Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 3:38 PM, Yoa said: From FSU: "The solo jumps in the SP will now be predeterminated for each season (like in juniors). 18-19 : Flip, 19-20 : Loop and 20-21: Lutz." Expand What, seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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