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[Paskud]

6 hours ago, yuzuangel said:

oof

 

nonsense...

[sallycinnamon]

18 hours ago, yuzuangel said:

oof

 

 

A political decision that doesn't make sense. Russia's power will remain the same anyway (which also includes figure skating). 

[SitTwizzle]

Thinking over the (probably bogus?) call on Yuzuru Hanyu's spin at SP, and "no-calls" for other skaters with faulty elements; and Yuzuru Hanyu's graduation thesis.

And the same sort of mess going on in Russia.

Could such a system as the one he's proposing in his thesis, be implemented internally by a federation for its national/regional championships, without incurring official blame and/or unofficial retaliation by ISU? Introducing it for instance, as a smaller scale experiment to give ISU more stuff to decide accurately.

Being French, I wonder what would happen for instance if a regional federation in France, if there is indeed a regional federation now free from the Gailhaguet-system influence, would decide to implement such a system for their own championships.

[Veveco]

 

[yuzuangel]

30 minutes ago, Veveco said:

 

ISU cancel worlds before skaters actually get there challenge

[Melodie]

 

Yep! There comes the suggestion everyone would expect. How about a big NO-NO?

[avt]

well how could be an already bad decision being replaced with an even worse suggestion 🤪

[Paskud]

On 12/17/2020 at 6:53 PM, yuzuangel said:

oof

 

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The ruling also blocked Russia from bidding to host major sporting events for two years.

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Although Russia would be stripped of hosting world championships in the next two years, events can be reprieved. Governing bodies have been advised to find a new host “unless it is legally or practically impossible to do so.”

 

[Melodie]

11 minutes ago, Paskud said:

 

RusFed president has already begun to consider this plan  At this point, I honestly believe all of them have conveniently forgotten this important point 

[sallycinnamon]

28 minutes ago, Paskud said:

 

 

The judgement of CAS is legally binding only if RUSADA doesn't appeal to the Swiss Supreme Court against the decision, so if they appeal I think until a final decision they are allowed to host big events. 

 

I read from someone who has ties to some people in the organizing committee of Worlds 2021 that they are planning to host Worlds without spectators. It's more possible imo than giving it to Russia or other countries which is a lot more complicated even if they also held it without spectators.

 

I think they'd only cancel it altogether if Beijing will be postponed to 2023. 

 

 

[Melodie]

2 minutes ago, sallycinnamon said:

 

The judgement of CAS is legally binding only if RUSADA doesn't appeal to the Swiss Supreme Court against the decision, so if they appeal I think until a final decision they are allowed to host big events. 

 

I read from someone who has ties to some people in the organizing committee of Worlds 2021 that they are planning to host Worlds without spectators. It's more possible imo than giving it to Russia or other countries which is a lot more complicated even if they also held it without spectators.

 

I think they'd only cancel it altogether if Beijing will be postponed to 2023. 

 

 

Update: I just found this 

 

So if I understand correctly, Russia really can't hold the WC. 

 

Tat really has senile memory.

[Melodie]

6 minutes ago, sallycinnamon said:

 

The judgement of CAS is legally binding only if RUSADA doesn't appeal to the Swiss Supreme Court against the decision, so if they appeal I think until a final decision they are allowed to host big events. 

 

I read from someone who has ties to some people in the organizing committee of Worlds 2021 that they are planning to host Worlds without spectators. It's more possible imo than giving it to Russia or other countries which is a lot more complicated even if they also held it without spectators.

 

I think they'd only cancel it altogether if Beijing will be postponed to 2023. 

 

 

I guess it'll be tricky. For one, Sweden just released new COVID prevention regulations that are a whole lot stricter. Also, all domestic comps are cancelled, meaning, they will be ruling out their own athletes should they go forward with the WC. But I don't know, I also heard something similar. Sweden seems to be determined. 

[Paskud]

I guess there always will be some loophole, but at least right now Lakernik said no.

[sallycinnamon]

44 minutes ago, Melodie said:

I guess it'll be tricky. For one, Sweden just released new COVID prevention regulations that are a whole lot stricter. Also, all domestic comps are cancelled, meaning, they will be ruling out their own athletes should they go forward with the WC. But I don't know, I also heard something similar. Sweden seems to be determined. 

 

I guess we'll know more soon. After all there are only two and a half months left until Worlds which is not much time.

 

32 minutes ago, Paskud said:

I guess there always will be some loophole, but at least right now Lakernik said no.

 

If he said so (even if he didn't go into details why it is not possible legally) then they don't move it to Russia.

[Melodie]

6 minutes ago, sallycinnamon said:

 

I guess we'll know more soon. After all there are only two and a half months left until Worlds which is not much time.

 

 

If he said so (even if he didn't go into details why it is not possible legally) then they don't move it to Russia.

It's in the final decision. Russia has to compete under the neutral flag and can't hold major comps in the next two years. However, I agree with @Paskud, there can be loopholes. We shall see.