Paskud Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 6 hours ago, yuzuangel said: oof nonsense... Link to post Share on other sites
sallycinnamon Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 18 hours ago, yuzuangel said: oof A political decision that doesn't make sense. Russia's power will remain the same anyway (which also includes figure skating). Link to post Share on other sites
SitTwizzle Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Thinking over the (probably bogus?) call on Yuzuru Hanyu's spin at SP, and "no-calls" for other skaters with faulty elements; and Yuzuru Hanyu's graduation thesis. And the same sort of mess going on in Russia. Could such a system as the one he's proposing in his thesis, be implemented internally by a federation for its national/regional championships, without incurring official blame and/or unofficial retaliation by ISU? Introducing it for instance, as a smaller scale experiment to give ISU more stuff to decide accurately. Being French, I wonder what would happen for instance if a regional federation in France, if there is indeed a regional federation now free from the Gailhaguet-system influence, would decide to implement such a system for their own championships. Link to post Share on other sites
yuzuangel Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 30 minutes ago, Veveco said: ISU cancel worlds before skaters actually get there challenge Link to post Share on other sites
Melodie Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Yep! There comes the suggestion everyone would expect. How about a big NO-NO? Link to post Share on other sites
avt Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 well how could be an already bad decision being replaced with an even worse suggestion 🤪 Link to post Share on other sites
Paskud Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 On 12/17/2020 at 6:53 PM, yuzuangel said: oof Quote The ruling also blocked Russia from bidding to host major sporting events for two years. (...) Although Russia would be stripped of hosting world championships in the next two years, events can be reprieved. Governing bodies have been advised to find a new host “unless it is legally or practically impossible to do so.” Link to post Share on other sites
Melodie Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 11 minutes ago, Paskud said: RusFed president has already begun to consider this plan At this point, I honestly believe all of them have conveniently forgotten this important point Link to post Share on other sites
sallycinnamon Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 28 minutes ago, Paskud said: The judgement of CAS is legally binding only if RUSADA doesn't appeal to the Swiss Supreme Court against the decision, so if they appeal I think until a final decision they are allowed to host big events. I read from someone who has ties to some people in the organizing committee of Worlds 2021 that they are planning to host Worlds without spectators. It's more possible imo than giving it to Russia or other countries which is a lot more complicated even if they also held it without spectators. I think they'd only cancel it altogether if Beijing will be postponed to 2023. Link to post Share on other sites
Melodie Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, sallycinnamon said: The judgement of CAS is legally binding only if RUSADA doesn't appeal to the Swiss Supreme Court against the decision, so if they appeal I think until a final decision they are allowed to host big events. I read from someone who has ties to some people in the organizing committee of Worlds 2021 that they are planning to host Worlds without spectators. It's more possible imo than giving it to Russia or other countries which is a lot more complicated even if they also held it without spectators. I think they'd only cancel it altogether if Beijing will be postponed to 2023. Update: I just found this So if I understand correctly, Russia really can't hold the WC. Tat really has senile memory. Link to post Share on other sites
Melodie Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 6 minutes ago, sallycinnamon said: The judgement of CAS is legally binding only if RUSADA doesn't appeal to the Swiss Supreme Court against the decision, so if they appeal I think until a final decision they are allowed to host big events. I read from someone who has ties to some people in the organizing committee of Worlds 2021 that they are planning to host Worlds without spectators. It's more possible imo than giving it to Russia or other countries which is a lot more complicated even if they also held it without spectators. I think they'd only cancel it altogether if Beijing will be postponed to 2023. I guess it'll be tricky. For one, Sweden just released new COVID prevention regulations that are a whole lot stricter. Also, all domestic comps are cancelled, meaning, they will be ruling out their own athletes should they go forward with the WC. But I don't know, I also heard something similar. Sweden seems to be determined. Link to post Share on other sites
Paskud Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I guess there always will be some loophole, but at least right now Lakernik said no. Link to post Share on other sites
sallycinnamon Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 44 minutes ago, Melodie said: I guess it'll be tricky. For one, Sweden just released new COVID prevention regulations that are a whole lot stricter. Also, all domestic comps are cancelled, meaning, they will be ruling out their own athletes should they go forward with the WC. But I don't know, I also heard something similar. Sweden seems to be determined. I guess we'll know more soon. After all there are only two and a half months left until Worlds which is not much time. 32 minutes ago, Paskud said: I guess there always will be some loophole, but at least right now Lakernik said no. If he said so (even if he didn't go into details why it is not possible legally) then they don't move it to Russia. Link to post Share on other sites
Melodie Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 6 minutes ago, sallycinnamon said: I guess we'll know more soon. After all there are only two and a half months left until Worlds which is not much time. If he said so (even if he didn't go into details why it is not possible legally) then they don't move it to Russia. It's in the final decision. Russia has to compete under the neutral flag and can't hold major comps in the next two years. However, I agree with @Paskud, there can be loopholes. We shall see. Link to post Share on other sites
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