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6 часов назад, Xen сказал:

I hope spain seriously considers taking the lead in developing figure skaters in western europe. There is not that many outside of ice dance, and I for one do not understand why that is the case.

And I remmember times when for example France had good skaters in every discipline... i think money is the main issue plus maybe lack of skating schools for kids.

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On 6.9.2017 at 4:24 AM, Xen said:

I hope spain seriously considers taking the lead in developing figure skaters in western europe. There is not that many outside of ice dance, and I for one do not understand why that is the case.

 

What comes to Spain, due to the climate no winter sport disciplines have stabilized their position there. Nowadays it is of course possible to build rinks, bring top coaches from abroad or move abroad to train but that´s not possible without strong support of the state. Spain has  been in serious financial problems for a long time.

 

The specialists here say that for example in China and Russia the state supports sports including FS much more than in many other countries. They have created top training centers and efficient coaching systems. Russia did that a long ago. Huge population means that there are lots of children and among them lots of talents involved in FS so chances to get skaters on top level are very good. So it is in Japan, and maybe to some extend in North America but there more money probably comes from private sources. Success in Olys, Worlds etc brings more resources, sponsors, audience and popularity for the sport. Here in Europe FS is not supported that much by the states so the skaters need private money. They get publicity and sponsors only after they have achieved good positions or medals in Europeans etc.

 

Actually I wrote much more about this subject but better stop here. Maybe my thoughts are self-evident point of views. I´ve been thinking a lot about the state of FS here in my country, and everything around it, like the role of media. We get seldom FS news and TV shows usually only parts of Worlds, Europeans and Olys. 
 

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13 minutes ago, xeyra said:

Question that just came to me. Where the heck is Javi? He's not in that TCC photo with Patrick! 

 

Wait, is he still in Spain??

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1 hour ago, robin said:

 

Wait, is he still in Spain??

Wasn't he in Muskoka about a week ago?

Now TCC camp in Muskoka is over, so he is probably back in Toronto too...:scratch2:

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17 minutes ago, sweetwater said:

Wasn't he in Muskoka about a week ago?

Now TCC camp in Muskoka is over, so he is probably back in Toronto too...:scratch2:

 

Oh right, I forgot abt that! Yeah I guess he should be in Toronto now... maybe he just wasn't around TCC today

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11 hours ago, Lyyli said:

 

What comes to Spain, due to the climate no winter sport disciplines have stabilized their position there. Nowadays it is of course possible to build rinks, bring top coaches from abroad or move abroad to train but that´s not possible without strong support of the state. Spain has  been in serious financial problems for a long time.

 

The specialists here say that for example in China and Russia the state supports sports including FS much more than in many other countries. They have created top training centers and efficient coaching systems. Russia did that a long ago. Huge population means that there are lots of children and among them lots of talents involved in FS so chances to get skaters on top level are very good. So it is in Japan, and maybe to some extend in North America but there more money probably comes from private sources. Success in Olys, Worlds etc brings more resources, sponsors, audience and popularity for the sport. Here in Europe FS is not supported that much by the states so the skaters need private money. They get publicity and sponsors only after they have achieved good positions or medals in Europeans etc.

 

Actually I wrote much more about this subject but better stop here. Maybe my thoughts are self-evident point of views. I´ve been thinking a lot about the state of FS here in my country, and everything around it, like the role of media. We get seldom FS news and TV shows usually only parts of Worlds, Europeans and Olys. 
 

Thought about this when I watched the UK and Irish boys in the JGP today- there's no funding and very few rinks - once in a blue moon an outlier appears who is so talented he/she/ they make progress, usually by going abroad, and things look good for a while and then it's back to apathy as normal.

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15 hours ago, Sombreuil said:

Thought about this when I watched the UK and Irish boys in the JGP today- there's no funding and very few rinks - once in a blue moon an outlier appears who is so talented he/she/ they make progress, usually by going abroad, and things look good for a while and then it's back to apathy as normal.

 

I tried to check how many indoor ice rinks there are in Ireland as it is a small country like my country and found only three. Maybe also some ice hockey teams etc use those same rink so not easy to be a figure skater there.

 

Here up in the North the situation is so different due to cold winters and long traditions in winter sports. Every child still puts the skates on because the kids skate also at school. Lots of outdoor rinks here during the winter. Because ice hockey is a tremendous thing and good business too for the professional teams, there are also many indoor ice rinks in the country. Figure skating clubs can rent them but the numerous junior and senior hockey teams take lots of ice time.
 

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