8 minutes ago, Pammi said:

 

 

Sorry if posted - this is so sad for Rika 

Rika is the biggest victim of Sambo-70's doping and score inflation. She would have probably been the dominant skater this quad and also probably wouldn't have injured herself so badly trying to catch up and been deprived of her chance at the Olympics.

 

If you just do the minimum and redo the placements without Sambo-70 skaters, you find that she would have been 2019 World Champ and 2019 GPF Champ. And who knows how much better she would have done with the boost in confidence.

 

I do know its annoying to us Yuzu fans when US journalists focus on the PCS side of things for women and ignore the men's event, but still it's interesting what a retired judge says here about the women's SP and the scoring

1 hour ago, Pammi said:

 

I do know its annoying to us Yuzu fans when US journalists focus on the PCS side of things for women and ignore the men's event, but still it's interesting what a retired judge says here about the women's SP and the scoring

The worst is when Americans pretend men's was totally fair but then the judges suddenly become completely corrupt and inept when judging women's, as though it isn't literally the same pool of judges. 

4 hours ago, rockstaryuzu said:

IMO, she's pretty typical of an Eteri skater: no polish or grace on the ice because they're muscling thier way through jump after jump crammed into bad choreography

I am no expert on technical elements and pretty much just 'judge' from the perspective of someone that loves to watch the sport, and like I said I have no idea about women skating from many years so I dont have a bias in favorites or stuff like that , to me it just looked unappealing , she seemed to be kicking her legs around a lot with no grace, shaky landings, the skatting skills didn't seem good ( to me) I agree the spins were indeed pretty. But I think I agree with how you put it muscling the way through, no real grace, refinement or artistry . She is young though, she has time to develop better flow but in the way she was at the top I was expecting something else, thats all. 

 

 

thank you all for your responses 💗

2 hours ago, shanshani said:

The worst is when Americans pretend men's was totally fair but then the judges suddenly become completely corrupt and inept when judging women's, as though it isn't literally the same pool of judges. 

I think it is infuriating how everyone suddenly is ready to talk fairness in the sport and even fields now but its complete silences regarding the atrociously corrupt judging. they are all complicit

 

listen to Yuzu and put the motion sensors 🗣️ the would still manage to be corrupt but something is something .

 

I think all the judges should get audited and defend their scoring and if they cant then they are out. without accountability this will always be a circus

20 hours ago, Crow said:

I have a question, doping aside, what do you guys think of her skating?

 

Speaking from live experience from 2 years ago and 3 months ago - she has very good spins (though the super extension isn't my favorite style), speed and ice coverage and for her age she is refined. Her jumping technique is really weak, just like others' in Team Tutberidze, for example the wonky combinations are so noticeable in person. At practices it was interesting to see how she simply can't maintin the axis if she doesn't have her two arms up at her ears. She falls then, especially her triple Axel technique is bad, she can't do it without rippon. Her SP suits her better and she connects to the music better, but the free skate is a jump-to-jump program without anything interesting going on. It just consist of tricks, watching those elements felt like being in a circus waiting for what's the next trick. Her previous free skate 2 years ago was much better. With Bolero they wanted to give her more grown-up/mature image on the ice.

19 minutes ago, sallycinnamon said:

 

Speaking from live experience from 2 years ago and 3 months ago - she has very good spins (though the super extension isn't my favorite style), speed and ice coverage and for her age she is refined. Her jumping technique is really weak, just like others' in Team Tutberidze, for example the wonky combinations are so noticeable in person. At practices it was interesting to see how she simply can't maintin the axis if she doesn't have her two arms up at her ears. She falls then, especially her triple Axel technique is bad, she can't do it without rippon. Her SP suits her better and she connects to the music better, but the free skate is a jump-to-jump program without anything interesting going on. It just consist of tricks, watching those elements felt like being in a circus waiting for what's the next trick. Her previous free skate 2 years ago was much better. With Bolero they wanted to give her more grown-up/mature image on the ice.

I can’t stand the tango/rippon used on every jump as a stabiliser - and afaik ISU still regard it as a point of difficulty rather than a prop.  It looks terrible apart from when it’s a curving arm raised to emphasise a point in the music/ choreo rather than a points scoring box to be ticked.  Same goes for quick high kicks, which seem to get rewarded whether appropriate to the music or not, shallow, fast IB that is held just long enough to register before swiftly moving on, ditto spread eagles….I could go on but everyone here knows what I’m talking about.  And I’m not confining my remarks to Russian women.  
 

 

14 hours ago, shanshani said:

The worst is when Americans pretend men's was totally fair but then the judges suddenly become completely corrupt and inept when judging women's, as though it isn't literally the same pool of judges. 

I was commenting why psc scoring was wrong, talked about the number of difficult steps and turns vs crossoers, deep edges, transitions etc.

The reply was either 'just say the music is not your style' or 'this is his style (of skating)'

Some people don't want to see things i guess

 

Edit: and you became a hater if you speak about such stuff