Random Thought Theater

[Murieleirum]

16 minutes ago, MrPudding said:

my exams are over and now I can commit myself to the planet again 

 

[WinForPooh]

Guys do you hear Yanni or Laurel?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/may/16/yanny-or-laurel-sound-illusion-sets-off-ear-splitting-arguments

 

I'm a little freaked out because on the same system and with the same file I went from Yanni to Laurel to Yanni to Laurel to both with liberal sprinkling of yammy and yawwy.

[sallycinnamon]

10 minutes ago, WinForPooh said:

Guys do you hear Yanni or Laurel?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/may/16/yanny-or-laurel-sound-illusion-sets-off-ear-splitting-arguments

 

I'm a little freaked out because on the same system and with the same file I went from Yanni to Laurel to Yanni to Laurel to both with liberal sprinkling of yammy and yawwy.

 

I hear only Laurel and nothing else.  

[WinForPooh]

1 minute ago, sallycinnamon said:

 

I hear only Laurel and nothing else.  

Wait a few minutes, think both, and then go back and listen? Because before reading the piece I got Yanny clear as anything, and after I got Laurel, and now I'm shifting back and forth and hear both.

 

I got a little freaked and made my husband listen. Then he heard Yanny and I heard Laurel.....

 

I think I understand witch burning. I don't approve but I suddenly understand.

[sallycinnamon]

14 minutes ago, WinForPooh said:

Wait a few minutes, think both, and then go back and listen? Because before reading the piece I got Yanny clear as anything, and after I got Laurel, and now I'm shifting back and forth and hear both.

 

I got a little freaked and made my husband listen. Then he heard Yanny and I heard Laurel.....

 

I think I understand witch burning. I don't approve but I suddenly understand.

 

I waited and listened to it again a couple of times and I can't hear Yanny at all  

 

[WinForPooh]

6 minutes ago, sallycinnamon said:

 

I waited and listened to it again a couple of times and I can't hear Yanny at all  

 

Sorcery. 

[kelly]

52 minutes ago, sallycinnamon said:

 

I waited and listened to it again a couple of times and I can't hear Yanny at all  

 

Yanny is said in a higher pitch than laurel, if you think about that you can probably hear it 

[Neenah]

2 hours ago, WinForPooh said:

Guys do you hear Yanni or Laurel?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/may/16/yanny-or-laurel-sound-illusion-sets-off-ear-splitting-arguments

 

I'm a little freaked out because on the same system and with the same file I went from Yanni to Laurel to Yanni to Laurel to both with liberal sprinkling of yammy and yawwy.

I can hear only Yanny and reading the article it makes sense. I found out few years ago that I am incapable of hearing low frequencies that most people do 

[sweetwater]

Frequency range you hear varies according to your age, the condition of your ears, type of the audio equipment, etc., so it's not so strange the word you hear is different from the one the others hear. But I think younger ears are good at catching high-pitched sound... 

I've taken part in an experiment once in which someone generated sounds using a sine wave generator and those who could hear them raised their hands. As the sound became high pitched the number of the raised hands decreased. The people who could hear all the sounds were very young children.
I can only hear "Laurel" using PC and earphone but I guess I would be able to hear "Yanny" if I were younger or using a different equipment...

[WinForPooh]

But I'm still confused how using the same system, and in the same room so acoustics are the same too, I went from hearing only Yanny to only Laurel to switching it around and hearing both. How can the frequencies my ear hears just change over half an hour like that!?

 

Some people say that the sound is actually vocabulary.com recording of 'Laurel' but something about the recording of the recording made this effect happen. What you hear depends on what frequencies you hear and what you expect to hear.

 

So why do I hear both now?!

[Murieleirum]

I actually hear Ye[??]i, meaning that the consonants sound very nasal and indistinguishable from a 'n' to a 'l' to a [y]. 

This doesn't seem like witchcraft to me at all because this year studying Linguistics and hearing phonetics, I've learned exactly what @sweetwater says: depending on the frequency of your own voice, your own vowel's frequencies and your own consonant's frequencies are personal and different from other people's frequencies: children have highest frequencies, then come women, then come men. Also, frequencies are influenced by how you listen to the track, the digital-to-analogic conversion that your ear performs from computer or from cellular, the physical space that the sound wave travels before coming to your ear... it's all pretty normal stuff that varies. 

 

So, the perception of frequencies of vowels and consonants depend not only on age and gender, but also it depends on the other sounds that come 'before' and 'after' the vowel taken into consideration. So the triangle you see above is the graphic representation of the relationship between the basic frequencies of the human vowels; and the position of the triangle and the shape of the triangle vary depending on all these things. 

 

Nerding OUT. 

 

[WinForPooh]

46 minutes ago, Murieleirum said:

I actually hear Ye[??]i, meaning that the consonants sound very nasal and indistinguishable from a 'n' to a 'l' to a [y]. 

This doesn't seem like witchcraft to me at all because this year studying Linguistics and hearing phonetics, I've learned exactly what @sweetwater says: depending on the frequency of your own voice, your own vowel's frequencies and your own consonant's frequencies are personal and different from other people's frequencies: children have highest frequencies, then come women, then come men. Also, frequencies are influenced by how you listen to the track, the digital-to-analogic conversion that your ear performs from computer or from cellular, the physical space that the sound wave travels before coming to your ear... it's all pretty normal stuff that varies. 

 

So, the perception of frequencies of vowels and consonants depend not only on age and gender, but also it depends on the other sounds that come 'before' and 'after' the vowel taken into consideration. So the triangle you see above is the graphic representation of the relationship between the basic frequencies of the human vowels; and the position of the triangle and the shape of the triangle vary depending on all these things. 

 

Nerding OUT. 

 

But... There was no change in the setup of the experiment when I heard it differently. That's the part I don't understand. Same equipment, same surroundings. Hell, I hadn't even got up from where I was. I just hit play with two minutes separating each time and I heard it completely differently. ??? How can my ears be sensitive to different frequencies like that? 

[Neenah]

9 minutes ago, WinForPooh said:

But... There was no change in the setup of the experiment when I heard it differently. That's the part I don't understand. Same equipment, same surroundings. Hell, I hadn't even got up from where I was. I just hit play with two minutes separating each time and I heard it completely differently. ??? How can my ears be sensitive to different frequencies like that? 

You've answered your own question earlier

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Wait a few minutes, think both, and then go back and listen? Because before reading the piece I got Yanny clear as anything, and after I got Laurel, and now I'm shifting back and forth and hear both.

It is not just the frequencies that affect how you hear the word but also how your brain interprets the sounds. Your experience and expectations can change how you hear things. For example, if you hear a word in a different language that is similar to a word in your language, your brain will interpret it to your language because that is the one it is familiar with. Also, I am sure you had this experience before where you hear someone saying something and then you are told they said another thing. When you go back and listen to it, you can hear what you were told they said even though you didn't before. It is simply your brain trying to create connections between the sound and the interpretation, it's brain magic 

 

[WinForPooh]

7 minutes ago, Neenah said:

You've answered your own question earlier

It is not just the frequencies that affect how you hear the word but also how your brain interprets the sounds. Your experience and expectations can change how you hear things. For example, if you hear a word in a different language that is similar to a word in your language, your brain will interpret it to your language because that is the one it is familiar with. Also, I am sure you had this experience before where you hear someone saying something and then you are told they said another thing. When you go back and listen to it, you can hear what you were told they said even though you didn't before. It is simply your brain trying to create connections between the sound and the interpretation, it's brain magic 

 

Then I suppose I just have the weirdest brain among everybody I know because I'm the only one I've found who hears it differently without changing the system/headphones/source.  

 

Ah well. Thank you for the explanations!

[VyVy99]

OT but quick question: How does one stop saving Sweety Yuzu's pictures particularly UA pictures?? I need some serious  because this has been going on the whole night

Look at the endless train of tabs. Can't stop.. Won't stop... 

 

I Miss Him!!!