river Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Anyone else see Gulyakova’s IG story? I can’t read Russian but it looks like Mishin was video chatting with Yuzu? Link to comment
liv Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 If that's true, that's cool, if it was about the 4A (big assumption on my part). Professor technical might be able to analyze the jump pretty well... and might really want to. Link to comment
Melodie Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, river said: Anyone else see Gulyakova’s IG story? I can’t read Russian but it looks like Mishin was video chatting with Yuzu? I did not see this plot twist coming lol This post has been tagged by yuzuangel as [NEWS]. Link to comment
liv Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Melodie said: I did not see this plot twist coming lol I think it's great. I think everyone (ok, not everyone, haha) wants to see the 4A happen... and anyone who can help, do it Link to comment
Melodie Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, liv said: I think it's great. I think everyone (ok, not everyone, haha) wants to see the 4A happen... and anyone who can help, do it But remember he said he would not expect a 4A landed (well) in his lifetime? Is he taking over Yuzu's position as the ultimate troll or what lol Link to comment
liv Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Melodie said: But remember he said he would not expect a 4A landed (well) in his lifetime? Is he taking over Yuzu's position as the ultimate troll or what lol All is fun and games when talking to the media!! Who knows what goes on behind arena doors, in truth. Link to comment
sallycinnamon Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Melodie said: But remember he said he would not expect a 4A landed (well) in his lifetime? Is he taking over Yuzu's position as the ultimate troll or what lol Maybe he took his words back after he saw Yuzu's attempts at Japanese Nationals Link to comment
Guest Mary_kyo Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 It seems not only the greatest Japanese gymnastics but a lot of other people also want that 4A to happen. It tells a lot about Yuzu’s character. Link to comment
Paskud Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Yuzuru Mishin bonus let's goooooooo Link to comment
Paskud Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Yuzuru's probably shaking in excitement, because Mishin coached Plush. Link to comment
Guest Mary_kyo Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 4A is a group project between legends at this rate, I'm loving this. This post has been tagged by yuzuangel as [NEWS]. Link to comment
Yuzurella Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Mary_kyo said: 4A is a group project between legends at this rate, I'm loving this. I love how Yuzu is getting an all-star team of legends involved in his quest for the 4A. He's a true leader who knows how to inspire the best people to support him. Link to comment
JanMary Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Melodie said: Huh? With Jun winning gold, he should be right behind Nate, which leaves Yuzu at number 8. The new 840 points from this year's 4cc will replace the old 386 points Jun earned in 2019-20 championships so he will have a net increase of 454 points, instead of 840 points. So Yuzu is still No. 7 now. Link to comment
Yuzurella Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, ZuCritter said: Can you imagine how dominant Yuzu would have been in an era with AI scoring? The very thought must send the ISU into panic mode. The part of me that dreads his r*****ment hopes that the prospect of exposing the corruption in scoring with the help of the technology will induce him to compete for a few more seasons. Even if the tech is only deployed unofficially, the gap between the AI scores and the judges’ scores will make a mockery of the current system. I think the unfair judging system might be the main reason why Yuzu started to take such an interest in AI technology for scoring figure skating. Throughout the years, especially during the last quad, he has probably been the most screwed over skater and got constantly underscored while certain other skaters got overscored. I'm afraid the ISU will fight the implementation of new technology with both their hands and feet. But the existence of a working AI scoring system is already a big step forward. It shows that this kind of technology is ready to be used and not some far off theoretical idea. Even though this AI won't be used to score the competition at the Beijing Olympics, I think the organizers will still use it, even if it's just to try it out and show the extent of their technical prowess. Hopefully, they will also publish the data for the whole world to see. This gives me hope that judges will be under more scrutiny during the Olympics. I have a feeling that Yuzu will keep competing for a few more seasons. I don't think he would want to bow out without getting at least a couple more rounds of thundering applause and cheers from full ice rinks and Pooh rains. Link to comment
sallycinnamon Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Gulyakova has deleted it from her IG stories. But knowing the Russian media journalists will ask Mishin about it soon. I think it's good Yuzu gets advice from so many people including gymnasts, a legendary ski jumper and professors like Mishin who know so much about the mechanics of jumps. Well Mishin had said before Nationals he consulted with someone already and this now confirms it was Yuzu, which means - if the videocall was new and it probably was, otherwise why would Gulyakova post it now? - it wasn't a one-time consultation but it's been going on for a while. Yuzu knows what he's doing and I really hope all his hard work will have the result he's aiming for. Kinda OT but I was listening to Men's SP commentary from Europeans and everybody is talking about the 4A already During one of the warm-ups, the commentators were talking about Yuzu and the quad Axel for 7 minutes, it was fun to listen to. One of them is actually a coach and former ice dancer, perhaps you remember him from 2017 Worlds FS commentaries when he said during warm-up that Hope and Legacy costume is like a piece of art, and he was complementing Yuzu so much during and after his skate. So this coach said he thinks if Yuzu tried 4A at competition it means the jump is at least 50-60% ready. He thinks he'll of course write history with it and thinks if he lands it and his other elements, too, then he probably won't be beaten by anyone. He also mentioned it'll be a tactical race for the Olympics, the layout of other skaters' will be analysed and he'll go for the 4A if it'll be needed. The other commentator mentioned if Nathan skates his SP at the Olympics like he did in PyeongChang the 4A may not be needed for the victory. He also think in 20 years there'll be maybe a few (1-2) skaters who'll be able to land 4A (depending on the skater himself, equipments, training methods especially how prepared the skater will be mentally). It was an interesting listen. Many people are talking about 4A already. Maybe the leak from Mishin's camp wasn't unintentional either. Link to comment
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