General Yuzuru Chat

[Yuzuwinnie]

1 hour ago, BWOZWaltz said:

Well, I'm glad in a way that Naomi is the last torchbearer. 

Hashimoto was there and Arakawa was on the video but no Yuzu ... fucking JSF

 

I just saw the video of Naomi turning on the cauldron and it's really state of the art the appearance of the stairs and the cauldron itself and you who are from Japan, are you talking about a video? Yep, so, Yuzu is absent!?!? and you write p **** de  JSF ...... and that says a lot 

[Muralla17]

57 minutes ago, Mary_kyo said:

Oh hmmm…. I’m surprised that Yuzu wasn’t involved at all. He didn’t even appear in the torch relay in Miyagi prefecture. It’s a little strange to me  Maybe he declined himself for obvious reasons  (He really deserved the honor though )

Anyway, tomorrow the DOI documentary  

Will be broadcast online anywhere outside Japan? Thank you so much in advance.

[Anni]

1 hour ago, Muralla17 said:

Will be broadcast online anywhere outside Japan? Thank you so much in advance.

 

 

I found this.🙏

 

 

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I am already looking forward to it. 

 

This post has been tagged by yuzuangel as [NEWS].

[Pammi]

I am disappointed to see some of Yuzu's fans on twitter saying Naomi didn't deserve to light the cauldron, it should have been Yuzu or Shohei and they must have both refused - please, Naomi is a megastar, I would imagine she was first choice, not third choice!  Tennis is a more global sport and there are successful elite tennis players from all over the world - it has a high international sporting profile, unlike figure skating and baseball (despite both of these sports being very popular in Japan- I think Japan were thinking bigger than themselves for these Olympics, and that's to be commended at this time of a world pandemic). She is the first Asian tennis player to achieve world number 1 standing. IMO Naomi is the embodiment of the Olympic message at Tokyo 2020 of solidarity, inclusion, and equality.  First, she is a fabulous and successful athlete, winning 4 grand slams (still a reigning champ of 2) and she must have a great chance of gold at the Olys for Japan. She is an activist for equality, speaks up about mental health, and is a woman (yay!!) of colour, and of dual heritage. I think it was a great choice myself - gambarre Naomi!! Go get that Gold for Japan!

 

(PS Of course I'd love to have seen Yuzuru light the cauldron though - we are his fans, so we think he is the  best of everybody, all the time, for everything lol!)

EDIT - looking at the tweets again it is Kohei who is mentioned, not Shohei, my bad, but I still think it's a fair choice...

2nd EDIT - I see now the tweet saying it was undeserved has been deleted so that's good

[Paskud]

11 minutes ago, Pammi said:

Tennis is a more global sport and there are successful elite tennis players from all over the world - it has a high international sporting profile, unlike figure skating and baseball (despite both of these sports being very popular in Japan- I think Japan were thinking bigger than themselves for these Olympics, and that's to be commended at this time of a world pandemic).

That's realistic, but imo not as positive argument as you make it sound.

An athlete who never competed at Olympics until now, from NBC friendly discipline that doesn't even value Olympics as the highest level event - lightning the Olympic cauldron?

That's pure money, not a deep decision. I'm not surprised that people are salty it went this way.

[Muralla17]

53 minutes ago, Anni said:

 

 

I found this.🙏

 

 

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Thanks Anni... And I have just realized is broadcasted at 8am here !

[barbara]

6 hours ago, lynnidolz said:

I guess they go with the famous ,well known high profile athelete.She is well known all over the world.Eventhough Yuzuru is famous  in Japan he is not well known enough in other countires and figure skating as a sport only is known in certain coutry

I'm going to have to disagree with you.  Yes, tennis is a popular sport around the world, and she is well known.  But Yuzu is one the top "googled' athletes, globally, and is always something like 60 or higher for the most popular, using everything from google searches, social media presence (and he's the only one on the list aside from an American golfer with zero social media), endorsements and other criteria.  (And the list includes athletes from way more popular global sports, like soccer and cricket.)

 

That said, Naomi was an excellent choice (since I am certain Yuzu would have turned it down.)  She is a "summer" athlete and a wonderful role model, so I am happy for her.

[Pammi]

8 minutes ago, Paskud said:

That's realistic, but imo not as positive argument as you make it sound.

An athlete who never competed at Olympics until now, from NBC friendly discipline that doesn't even value Olympics as the highest level event - lightning the Olympic cauldron?

That's pure money, not a deep decision. I'm not surprised that people are salty it went this way.

That may well have some validity, but I just want to see some good in the decision, I like Naomi, and I believe her when she says the lighting of the cauldron is her greatest achievement.

[mambook]

1 hour ago, Pammi said:

I am disappointed to see some of Yuzu's fans on twitter saying Naomi didn't deserve to light the cauldron, it should have been Yuzu or Shohei and they must have both refused - please, Naomi is a megastar, I would imagine she was first choice, not third choice! 

Personally didn't see any such wording and hopefully it's not common.  I don't think there's anything wrong with fans querying why Naomi was the final torch bearer as it didn't fit the recovery theme of the Olympics (earthquake or pandemic).  Even on JPN twitter quite a few people didn't think it fits the original concept which admittedly has morphed from many artistic director changes.   I've followed Naomi's career since her breakthrough at US Open, super happy for her after a tough year but still    I really don't think any of the speculation is directed at Naomi, more at the organisers and commercialism. 

 

48 minutes ago, Paskud said:

That's realistic, but imo not as positive argument as you make it sound.

An athlete who never competed at Olympics until now, from NBC friendly discipline that doesn't even value Olympics as the highest level event - lightning the Olympic cauldron?

That's pure money, not a deep decision. I'm not surprised that people are salty it went this way.

 

Sadly, cynical me is hard agree with this.  Ask any of the big 3 whether OGM >>>>> Grand Slam if they could only choose 1 and I'm pretty sure all of them with pick GS.

[KendallKlaire]

1 hour ago, mambook said:

Personally didn't see any such wording and hopefully it's not common.  I don't think there's anything wrong with fans querying why Naomi was the final torch bearer as it didn't fit the recovery theme of the Olympics (earthquake or pandemic).  Even on JPN twitter quite a few people didn't think it fits the original concept which admittedly has morphed from many artistic director changes.   I've followed Naomi's career since her breakthrough at US Open, super happy for her after a tough year but still    I really don't think any of the speculation is directed at Naomi, more at the organisers and commercialism. 

I also don't see any Fanyus on my Twitter feed attacking Naomi.  More of the confusion and frustration of the opening ceremonies is definitely directed toward the organizers and the IOC.

 

The JOC and opening ceremonies directors changed hands so many times over the course of the last few years (even in the last week!) Wasn't one of the musical acts or music directors dropped after controversy emerged a few days ago?? I really feel bad for Japan. They could have put on a show rivaling Beijing, but amidst the pandemic, corruption, and controversy there was really nothing they could salvage. It makes it feel like Naomi (who I have immense respect for) was chosen as damage control. She is without any doubt the most high profile Japanese athlete competing at this Olympics and I think having her light the cauldron was appropriate, but I almost feel it was a cop out in having a high profile athlete be the final torch runner than keeping the theme of recovery (if that was still the theme). I think with all the bad press the IOC and JOC wanted to have a high profile (first time Olympian) upstage it all.

 

I never thought Yuzu would be the one to actually light the cauldron. That just wouldn't make sense. He's a WINTER athlete and he would never accept that honor in place of a summer athlete.  I thought they may have gone for a Japanese Olympic veteran like Kohei Uchimura for example or ten year old children symbolizing the 10 years since 2011.  Anyways, I always believe IF he was at the opening ceremony he would hand off the torch to the final runner. Perhaps he'll have a place at the closing ceremony? Summer handing off the torch to winter? 

[Pammi]

3 hours ago, mambook said:

Personally didn't see any such wording and hopefully it's not common.

 

 

2 hours ago, KendallKlaire said:

I also don't see any Fanyus on my Twitter feed attacking Naomi. 

 

 

I only saw it on one tweet where it was a response to the original tweet (the response said " lol Naomi?? so undeserved"), but it was deleted later  - I haven't seen anything else like that so no thank goodness it isn't common!

 

 

2 hours ago, KendallKlaire said:

I don't think there's anything wrong with fans querying why Naomi was the final torch bearer as it didn't fit the recovery theme of the Olympics (earthquake or pandemic).

 

I thought the president of IOC and Seiko Hashimoto both spelt out the theme of this Olympics as inclusion, equality, solidarity, the world coming together - and that's why I thought Naomi a good choice for the reasons I listed in a previous post on here.  The theme had previously been the disaster and reconstruction, but I think that theme changed because of the pandemic, as well maybe as change of personnel. 

 

I agree there is absolutely nothing wrong with people thinking someone else would have been more appropriate, we all have different views, but I objected to the person saying it was "so undeserved" - I think that is not fair on Naomi as an athlete or as a representative of Japan. Yuzu's fans are usually wonderful which is why I responded to the tweet to say something positive about Naomi as a choice, but I am glad those quoted sentiments have now been deleted. (I am very aware people always blame all Fanyus for things, and this is not fair when it is only one or two people who sometimes write inappropriate things in the heat of the moment). 

That's my view anyway and of course others are at liberty to have a different view.

[IceWings]

6 hours ago, BWOZWaltz said:

Oh well, I'm glad in a way that Naomi got to be the final torch bearer. 

Hashimoto was there and Arakawa was on the video  but no Yuzu...damn JSF

Would expect Hashimoto to be there, but not sure what Arakawa's role is, maybe helper bee?

 

I was looking forward to some Yuzu Opening Ceremony crumbs, so sad not to see any. Otoh, it's probably best for Yuzu not to be so closely associated with such an unpopular event in Japan, and it's certainly safer that he didn't have to travel there. 

 

Frankly, I'm appalled that they've pushed forward with the Olympics when COVID cases in Tokyo have been hitting all time highs. New cases continually being reported at the Games too. I hope the athletes and everyone else can stay safe. 

6 hours ago, Mary_kyo said:

Oh hmmm…. I’m surprised that Yuzu wasn’t involved at all. He didn’t even appear in the torch relay in Miyagi prefecture. It’s a little strange to me  Maybe he declined himself for obvious reasons  (He really deserved the honor though )

Anyway, tomorrow the DOI documentary  

If Yuzu declined participating in the torch relay or some other role, that would be fine, and I would not be surprised given his desire not to encourage crowds. However if JSF included Rika, Shoma, and others, but purposely excluded him, then yeah,  JSF!

4 hours ago, Paskud said:

That's realistic, but imo not as positive argument as you make it sound.

An athlete who never competed at Olympics until now, from NBC friendly discipline that doesn't even value Olympics as the highest level event - lightning the Olympic cauldron?

That's pure money, not a deep decision. I'm not surprised that people are salty it went this way.

I'm happy for Naomi,  but I'm quite cynical about the way they run these events these days so I also think it's all about the highest profile person who will generate the most $$$.

 

Personally I think the honor should go to a veteran Olympian, but I'm not familiar with how they've chosen people to light the cauldron in the past.

 

[barbara]

1 hour ago, IceWings said:

Would expect Hashimoto to be there, but not sure what Arakawa's role is, maybe helper bee?

 

I was looking forward to some Yuzu Opening Ceremony crumbs, so sad not to see any. Otoh, it's probably best for Yuzu not to be so closely associated with such an unpopular event in Japan, and it's certainly safer that he didn't have to travel there. 

 

Frankly, I'm appalled that they've pushed forward with the Olympics when COVID cases in Tokyo have been hitting all time highs. New cases continually being reported at the Games too. I hope the athletes and everyone else can stay safe. 

If Yuzu declined participating in the torch relay or some other role, that would be fine, and I would not be surprised given his desire not to encourage crowds. However if JSF included Rika, Shoma, and others, but purposely excluded him, then yeah,  JSF!

I'm happy for Naomi,  but I'm quite cynical about the way they run these events these days so I also think it's all about the highest profile person who will generate the most $$$.

 

Personally I think the honor should go to a veteran Olympian, but I'm not familiar with how they've chosen people to light the cauldron in the past.

 

I've always thought that it is a veteran, older Olympian who would be the one who'd light the torch.  It is remotely possible that no older Japanese Olympians were willing to risk getting sick.  But I expect they were going for the dazzle of Naomi for ratings.  She is certainly one of the top tier of Japanese athletes, but doesn't fit the usual criteria.

[Pammi]

 

Interesting article in the NY Times about black women in the Olympics and the lack of support given, for those interested - Simone Biles, Naomi Osaka, Gwen Berry are 3 women named in the article. Link under spoiler

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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/23/sports/olympics/olympics-naomi-osaka-simone-biles.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

 

 

[Yuzuwinnie]

7 minutes ago, Pammi said:

 

Interesting NY Times article on black women at the Olympics and lack of support for those interested - Simone Biles, Naomi Osaka, Gwen Berry are 3 women named in the article. Link under spoiler

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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/23/sports/olympics/olympics-naomi-osaka-simone-biles.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

 

 

 

 

Sorry, I can't read it, you have to have an account.