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19 минут назад, Henni147 сказал:

I would totally celebrate it, if Yuzu simply overtook the ISU after his retirement, kicked out all the corrupt officials and reformed the entire system from its core.

As fun as this sounds I think Yuzu is too good for politics.

I don't want to look very far ahead cuz people's priories change, but hopefully CWW2 (3,4...) will be his first plan))

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35 minutes ago, Lunna said:

As fun as this sounds I think Yuzu is too good for politics.

I don't want to look very far ahead cuz people's priories change, but hopefully CWW2 (3,4...) will be his first plan))

 

It's meant as a half-joke actually.

Figure skating is Yuzu's life, his baby. I don't think that he would leave a sinking ship without rescuing the remaining passengers, especially if he had the power to do so. Who else, if not the 'good people', can save a corrupt system from self-destruction?

On the other hand: he has done more than enough for the sport already and he is free to do whatever he likes. It's absolutely understandable, if he says: 'I have enough from the public madness and want to enjoy my privacy from now on'.

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In my mind I can't really see him being completely far from FS ,in what capacity i have no idea but it seems to me he loves it too much to simply leaving it for good.

Also he said several times whow he even hates to 'lose' during arguments he may have with his family ,can you imagine him discussing a topic during a ISU meeting?people would probably be like,ok we agree as long as you shut up LOL

 

 

 I think I'm dead by hydroblading :13877886:

 

 

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3 hours ago, Henni147 said:

 

I would totally celebrate it, if Yuzu simply overtook the ISU after his retirement, kicked out all the corrupt officials and reformed the entire system from its core. Imagine Yuzu

  • running all the summer webinars himself
  • [EDIT] casting new independent judges
  • setting 'Yuzu standards' in the official guidelines, TP handbooks and SOV tables
  • filming technical sample videos and tutorials with On Ice Perspectives
  • developing new measurement tools, skating boots, blades, ice rinks and other hightech stuff
  • doing skating promotion (in small fed countries, too)

I think, I would follow that journey... :hihi:

He is already taking over ISU sponsors. Yuzuru Skating Union is only matter of time.:black-wings-smiley:

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3 hours ago, Lunna said:

As fun as this sounds I think Yuzu is too good for politics.

I don't want to look very far ahead cuz people's priories change, but hopefully CWW2 (3,4...) will be his first plan))

I have been saying all along that I think Yuzu's plan after retirement is to produce ice shows.  In those shows he could highlight what he thinks is important for skating, inviting those skaters who share his philosophy and creating shows that are dramas in themselves rather than a succession of exhibition numbers.  Yuzu will have no difficulty getting financing since he's the most bankable skater on the planet right now and probably also in the history of the sport.  CWW will turn into a whole flock.

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IIRC, in Yume wo Ikiru, Yuzu said he wants to open a skating school and have all the skaters he admires join in. Because he's Yuzuru Hanyu, I think he could do so much more. I think I've posted this before, but my dream for him, after retiring is starting an international network of skating schools, so all these skaters he admires can still say at their current rinks, but join in this network, where coaching information and knowledge is shared and exchange programs can happen and maybe smaller rinks can join in, too, and perhaps Yuzu & co can help with funding for skaters in countries where skating isn't really well-known. Nowadays, with the internet, it'd be easy to stay in touch and he could be both the face and the one drawing in the sponsors, while at the same time spreading his skating philosophy. They could have their own ice shows as well, which would be both fun and educative. And through it all, he would still help change FS for the better, but starting where it matters, with the skaters. Surely lots of them would want to join and I suspect they might become the majority, so whatever ISU weirdness might happen, they'd be harder to pull off. Obviously, only he knows what he'll do though, and given how much of himself he's already given to this port, I definitely wouldn't blame him if he didn't take on such a big project. But if he did, I think he'd be able to pull it off. Imagine, both Plushenko and Yagudin would probably join the network, who else could claim that? lol

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22 minutes ago, KatjaThera said:

IIRC, in Yume wo Ikiru, Yuzu said he wants to open a skating school and have all the skaters he admires join in. Because he's Yuzuru Hanyu, I think he could do so much more. I think I've posted this before, but my dream for him, after retiring is starting an international network of skating schools, so all these skaters he admires can still say at their current rinks, but join in this network, where coaching information and knowledge is shared and exchange programs can happen and maybe smaller rinks can join in, too, and perhaps Yuzu & co can help with funding for skaters in countries where skating isn't really well-known. Nowadays, with the internet, it'd be easy to stay in touch and he could be both the face and the one drawing in the sponsors, while at the same time spreading his skating philosophy. They could have their own ice shows as well, which would be both fun and educative. And through it all, he would still help change FS for the better, but starting where it matters, with the skaters. Surely lots of them would want to join and I suspect they might become the majority, so whatever ISU weirdness might happen, they'd be harder to pull off. Obviously, only he knows what he'll do though, and given how much of himself he's already given to this port, I definitely wouldn't blame him if he didn't take on such a big project. But if he did, I think he'd be able to pull it off. Imagine, both Plushenko and Yagudin would probably join the network, who else could claim that? lol

 

I think Yuzu will be more impactful after he retires than he is now. When ISU eventually takes in the notion that Yuzu ice shows are popular beyond measure, I hope they will realize they've gone too far in over emphasizing technical elements and return to what most fans would like to see. I personally would like to see him focus on ice shows before involving himself directly with skating schools, because by coaching he'd have to stick to ISU rule book and judging idiosyncrocies/biases. 

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Hace 3 horas, micaelis said:

I have been saying all along that I think Yuzu's plan after retirement is to produce ice shows.  

I wholeheartedly agree!!! I don't think he should spend his youth dealing with ISU politics. That would be a waste of his talent... I'm aware that this sounds selfish though- he doesn't own us anything. First and foremost he should prioritise his own health, happiness and personal goals.

 

But if you ask me, my selfish wish is for him to keep performing for years to come. I'd love to watch him explore new styles and genres of music that he hasn't had the chance to try in competition. I could watch him skate for hours even without spins or jumps. He should produce his own ice show or bring back CiONTU; tour around Japan and maybe around the world too. Honestly, he has enough impact to hold a successful one-man ice show. I'm sure that would sell better than future ISU competitions without him -lol. That is just what I would like to see personally. 

 

Overall, to me he should keep performing and skating for as long as he wants and is able to. He'll have more than enough time to start coaching and/or become ISU president when he's older. 

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random, probably unpopular thought.  It's possible that this whole splitting tech and artistic is actually to keep skaters like Yuzu in the sport longer.  ISU has to know at this point that without Yuzu, tickets only sell in Russia and Japan, but by having an "artistic" event, skaters that can no longer compete technically can still win but they can still have an American/Russian champion in the "technical" competition.  It's a "win/win" by ISU perspective - they can keep milking Yuzu for his popularity while still trying to create champions to market in other parts of the world.

 

I imagine ISU also wants to have more opportunities to crown Olympic skating champions.  Most of the public doesn't know how much of a farce the team event is so they buy into team medalists getting introduced as Olympic champions.  

 

I never took the proposal seriously so I haven't looked into it, but in theory, my main problem is with how they're going to be able to score the "artistic" portion with any type of competitive integrity - granted, they haven't been particularly successful with that in skating's current format.  Right now, I'm imagining "competitions" like the old pro-ams and professional competitions, which screamed cheese and made the sport a joke.  If it's like that, I imagine that it'll just further kill the sport.

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20 minutes ago, Old Cat Lady said:

random, probably unpopular thought.  It's possible that this whole splitting tech and artistic is actually to keep skaters like Yuzu in the sport longer.  ISU has to know at this point that without Yuzu, tickets only sell in Russia and Japan, but by having an "artistic" event, skaters that can no longer compete technically can still win but they can still have an American/Russian champion in the "technical" competition.  It's a "win/win" by ISU perspective - they can keep milking Yuzu for his popularity while still trying to create champions to market in other parts of the world.

 

I imagine ISU also wants to have more opportunities to crown Olympic skating champions.  Most of the public doesn't know how much of a farce the team event is so they buy into team medalists getting introduced as Olympic champions.  

 

I never took the proposal seriously so I haven't looked into it, but in theory, my main problem is with how they're going to be able to score the "artistic" portion with any type of competitive integrity - granted, they haven't been particularly successful with that in skating's current format.  Right now, I'm imagining "competitions" like the old pro-ams and professional competitions, which screamed cheese and made the sport a joke.  If it's like that, I imagine that it'll just further kill the sport.

Lol, Yuzu will retire if that plan is ever implemented. He wouldn't be able to recognize the sport anymore.

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In this ongoing discussion of Yuzu after leaving competition and the likelihood(?) of his producing ice shows I am reminded of John Curry nearly a half century ago, who took the gold in both the Olympics and World Championships in 1976.  He had been quite vocal on his intent to make figure-skating more balletic and indeed after he left competing he founded a company of skaters ready to do just that, make figure-skating more balletic, though not in imitating specific balletic moves since the two are largely incompatible.  He wanted to adopt the ballet aesthetic.  He might have succeeded long-term if his life hadn't been tragically cut short by AIDS.  I think, though, Yuzu could be the perfect person to adapt John Curry's approach.  They basically are thinking along the same lines although we have to realize that skaters today execute moves (particularly jumps) that would have been regarded as science fiction back then.  The times have changed but the true aesthetic has not.  Yuzu has the ability to accomplish what John Curry ultimately was not able to.

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13 minutes ago, Old Cat Lady said:

random, probably unpopular thought.  It's possible that this whole splitting tech and artistic is actually to keep skaters like Yuzu in the sport longer.  ISU has to know at this point that without Yuzu, tickets only sell in Russia and Japan, but by having an "artistic" event, skaters that can no longer compete technically can still win but they can still have an American/Russian champion in the "technical" competition.  It's a "win/win" by ISU perspective - they can keep milking Yuzu for his popularity while still trying to create champions to market in other parts of the world.

 

I imagine ISU also wants to have more opportunities to crown Olympic skating champions.  Most of the public doesn't know how much of a farce the team event is so they buy into team medalists getting introduced as Olympic champions.  

 

I never took the proposal seriously so I haven't looked into it, but in theory, my main problem is with how they're going to be able to score the "artistic" portion with any type of competitive integrity - granted, they haven't been particularly successful with that in skating's current format.  Right now, I'm imagining "competitions" like the old pro-ams and professional competitions, which screamed cheese and made the sport a joke.  If it's like that, I imagine that it'll just further kill the sport.

In italian we say fare i conti senza l'oste ,which means calculating your own bill without the owner of the restaurant ;-P

Now Yuzuru said a neverending number of times that artistic perfection is only doable through perfect tech,for him  those 2 things cannot exist separated,so I doubt someone like him would be interested in a competition like ISU talks about.

I don't know what he'll do of course but selfishly I hope he'll keep skating after he stops competin,he's a very smart creative guy i'm sure he would come up with something unique.after all Continues was already unique and original.

I'll miss the competition side terribly ,nothing like the adrenaline of  a competition can give us a performance like H&L for example, but I'm very very curious to find out how Yuzuru will evolve....not too curious tho,so Yuzu in case you're lurking I can wait LOL

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