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  1. Nothing controversial. They just explained who he is: 1:02 Yuzuru Hanyu - Japan (Figure Skating): 2x Olympic Champion, 2x World Champion, 4x Grand Prix Final Champion. 🙌
  2. As a side comment, it's hilarious when Yuzu gets mentioned in famous mixed company platforms. The Google year in search is overrun with majority Yuzu comments with a few befuddled "why is everyone talking about this Yuzuru Hanyu guy?" comments. I wonder what people running these things think when the reaction is mostly about a 1 second clip of this guy that most of them have probably barely heard of. ISU has a comment there too - how do they not know at this point that the reaction is going to be bad any time they get involved with a Yuzu thing?
  3. I think Nathan's only ever landed it once at 2017 U.S. Classic. I know he had hip surgery (due to growth issues) in his junior days but no reason was given for why he dropped it after that. Literally every 4s that I've ever seen Shoma land has been ur around a quarter and I think most of his attempts are either popped or fall. He landed the 4lo 7 times in 2017 and 2018 but not since JPN nats and I heard he had to change the position of his blade in order to do it and has since changed it back. I feel pretty confident that loop is completely gone. I thought Yuzu wasn't in Faoi this coming year. But that's offset by all the things he'll be doing for the Olympics so not sure if he'll be any less busy I admit to listening to them but only because I have a masochistic compulsion to listen to anything that might be Yuzu related. But one of the things that struck me is how poorly they understand the scoring system. More than the average fans, but I really cringed a lot last year when Dave would explain the scoring system to the fans. Jonathon at least doesn't pretend to know. However, I think Jonathon has improved a lot over the years (in the past, he was really just a casual fan that happened to be friends with Dave - clearly knew nothing about scoring and didn't watch all the events) and tends to at least ask the more insightful questions and is more fair in his observations. Dave I think is obviously influenced by his bias but I've noticed that when he gets enough feedback he eventually can bend his views (though he never acknowledges that he may have been wrong previously). E.G. last year, Dave would score Nathan's spins +4 but in this recent video, he talked about how awful Nathan's flying camel is for a skater of this level. He also went from talking about how Shoma deserved a +4 (?) for his 4flip and defended that score in the comments when people inevitably disputed that score but in a later video he talked about how he had to reduce the GOE because of the poor entry
  4. This was a disaster for everyone so you still finished 2nd. This is by far the lowest scoring event. Everyone's answers - let me know if something doesn't look right: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QP4jngmC7nCTesXD31DsChJG9KqwGNMnvTfI72QnN7c/edit?usp=sharing ralucutzagy was the only one to guess Scherbakova for silver. Sayu93 was the only one to guess Trusova for bronze. Everyone picked Boikova/Kozlovskii for either silver or gold. No one picked Mishina/Galliamov to medal. We were unanimous in answering top 2 for BQ8 and we were unanimously wrong. Yuzu+Yale got almost twice as many quads as the rest of the field, but everyone except Aliev hit all their 3 axels so they were able to squeak ahead. Y+Y got 15 (16 if you count Yuzu's 4t in the 4t/e/3f - I didn't even though the toe was obviously clean because my definition of "clean" is positive GOE and it doesn't get scored separately) vs. 17 for the rest There was a tie for number of ladies 3 axels vs. quads. Since I didn't have tie as an option, I gave everyone the points considering our scores are sad enough as is. I realized that the wording for BQ7 was a bit ambiguous - I meant 2019 worlds + this year's grand prix events. I worded it "qualifying events", which I think everyone could only take to mean this year's grand prix events so I kept that but for "worlds" I took into consideration all previous worlds since I didn't specify which one. Luckily, I don't believe it affected the answer because Stepanova/Bukin have never beaten Sinitsina/Katsalapov at a worlds. We were also unanimously wrong for BQ10, with 13 answering Jin and 1 Tennell I did not count Yuzu's 3a/3a for BQ2 because I forgot about sequences and the wording of my question was "combo", though that did not affect the answer. Shockingly, Chen did not get +5 for his choreo seq., though that did not really affect the game results. Segment ranking: Ladies Pairs Dance BQ1 BQ2 BQ3 BQ4 BQ5 BQ6 BQ7 BQ8 BQ9 BQ10 Total Points Sayu93 6 7 3 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 22 river 2 3 6 2 2 2 2 2 0 2 0 2 0 21 Paskud 5 4 4 2 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 2 0 19 airi 5 3 3 2 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 2 0 17 Legacy and Hope 2 4 3 2 2 2 0 2 2 0 0 2 0 17 sallycinnamon 2 3 6 0 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 17 Old Cat Lady 5 1 6 0 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 2 0 16 LadyLou 2 1 6 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 15 Louitunes 4 4 3 0 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 15 Figure Frenzy 5 4 3 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 14 Sukigirl 2 3 3 2 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 14 ralucutzagy 3 4 4 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 13 TeaFrida 2 4 3 0 2 2 0 0 2 2 0 2 0 13 mercedes 0 4 3 0 0 2 0 0 2 2 0 2 0 9 Answer Key Ladies Podium 1. Kostornaya 2. Scherbakova 3. Trusova 4. Kihira Pairs Podium 1. Sui/Han 2. Peng/Jin 3. Mishina/Galliamov 4. Boikova/Kozlovskii Dance Podium 1. Papadakis/Cizeron 2. Chock/Bates 3. Hubbell/Donohue 4. Stepanova/Bukin BQ1: Which discipline will have the most 10's and +5 GOE elements before factoring? Dance: Papadakis/Cizeron FD - SILi4 Composition Interpretation BQ2: Will anyone attempt a jump or combo that they have not previously landed? Yes Trusova: 4f, 3a Kihira: 4s Scherbakova: 4f BQ3: In ladies, will there be more clean quads or 3 axels? Tie 3a - 4 Kostornaya:3, Kihira: 1 quads - 4 Trusova: 4f, 4lz, 4t Scherbakova: 4lz BQ4: Will anyone in singles or pairs have all Level 4's, positive GOE's, and no pops? No Kostornaya & Chen both got vl 3 on their FS stsq BQ5: In which disciplines will we have a new WORLD record? Ladies SP, Total Men FS, Total BQ6: In ice dance, will any of the medalists finish lower in the Free Dance than the overall? No BQ7: In ice dance, will any couple defeat a couple that they have not beaten either at worlds or during their GP qualifying events? Yes Stepanova/Bukin defeated Sinitsina/Katsalapov BQ8: In the men's event, will there be more clean quads + 3 axels landed by the top 2 or by 3-6? 3-6 Top 2: 12 a, 3 3a=15 Doesn't count Yuzu's 4t/e/3f because combo got neg GOE 3-6: 7 q, 10 3a=17 BQ9: Will the largest point margin be between 1st and 3rd in men or between 1st and 6th of one of the other disciplines? Men 1 to 3 59.67 BQ10: Who will have the largest point disparity from their worst GP event and their best (including GPF)? Aliev 39.84 259.88: Skate America 220.04 at GPF Overall results total: Total Skate America Skate Canada IdF Cup of China Rostelecom NHK Qualifying GPF river 241 28 19 28 34 32 37 42 21 Legacy and Hope 230 31 23 31 25 31 32 40 17 sallycinnamon 228 32 22 28 23 29 31 46 17 airi 226 23 24 30 32 33 25 42 17 Old Cat Lady 221 22 21 32 23 32 31 44 16 LadyLou 214 31 20 30 25 22 27 44 15 Paskud 209 23 23 23 29 33 25 34 19 mercedes 190 25 21 30 24 23 24 34 9 TeaFrida 190 18 25 22 23 21 24 44 13 Louitunes 186 22 23 17 20 23 30 36 15 ralucutzagy 151 22 27 26 32 31 13 Sukigirl 105 31 33 27 14 Sayu93 102 24 26 30 22 Figure_Frenzy 91 22 26 29 14 Overall Averages: Ave Skate America Skate Canada IdF Cup of China Rostelecom NHK GPF river 28.43 28 19 28 34 32 37 21 Legacy and Hope 27.14 31 23 31 25 31 32 17 airi 26.29 23 24 30 32 33 25 17 Sukigirl 26.25 31 33 27 14 sallycinnamon 26.00 32 22 28 23 29 31 17 Sayu93 25.50 24 26 30 22 Old Cat Lady 25.29 22 21 32 23 32 31 16 ralucutzagy 25.17 22 27 26 32 31 13 Paskud 25.00 23 23 23 29 33 25 19 LadyLou 24.29 31 20 30 25 22 27 15 Figure_Frenzy 22.75 22 26 29 14 mercedes 22.29 25 21 30 24 23 24 9 Louitunes 21.43 22 23 17 20 23 30 15 TeaFrida 20.86 18 25 22 23 21 24 13 Congrats to the medalists! Let me know if you have any suggestions for next time. Maybe we'll play again for 4cc, Europeans, and worlds. @river @Legacy and Hope @airi @Sukigirl @sallycinnamon @Sayu93 @ralucutzagy @Paskud @LadyLou @Figure_Frenzy @mercedes @Louitunes @TeaFrida
  5. thanks for the info. Maybe it's my internet speed or because my laptop is so crappy. Hopefully I can figure it out so I don't have to feel like I'm missing out when I drop NBC Gold
  6. Was going to take a break from skating but randomly decided to tune in right before Yuzu got on the ice! Such lucky timing ISU's crappy camera work continues and the picture is piss poor for me. I'm 99.9% sure I'm going to cancel NBC since they don't cover everything and at this point I'd rather see figure skating die in the US as it's a rather toxic hobby but this is quite a downgrade in picture quality. Is ISU stream really fuzzy for everyone else?
  7. 2 different scoring systems, but still, that's the lowest FS score she's gotten since 2016 Ljublana cup as a junior. That's the only time she's scored lower than that in international competition
  8. One of the jumps looks like it should be a downgrade. Didn't catch the take off. Lot of ur
  9. She looked just a smidge tight and ignored the performance until the end but clean and should be enough to win
  10. Did her last spin get invalidated or was that a tech box glitch? I don't think the score went up after the spin and she got 0 for BV
  11. I actually find that not caring who wins makes me enjoy the events more. I'm not particularly invested in any discipline but the men and I don't normally even like juniors or dance all that much, but it's so nice to just relax and watch skating for the skating. The ladies is the most enjoyable for me because it's also highly competitive. The trade off is that I don't get that "heart pounding out of my chest" rush that I get while watching Yuzu and I don't get that high when he does well.
  12. Looks like S/K did get a fall on the choreo slide http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1920/gpf1920/FSKXICEDANCE----------FNL-000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf eta: clearly the judges didn't think it was a fall either. Not a single -5
  13. Protocols will be interesting. If that is the case, that seems like an awfully harsh interpretation of "fall". There's no way the majority of her weight was on her hand. Yet Nathan can be off one of his blades, horizontal, and put both hands down but it's not a fall I can't figure out what else the deduction would be for. Doesn't look like a time violation.
  14. huh. You learn something new all the time I guess. I had no idea that you weren't allowed to touch the ice on a sliding move
  15. Maybe the judges found that program as boring as we did. I don't recall anything significant with the tech box. They got mostly level 4's. I think 3 level 3's, which is better than the other 2 couples. Didn't look at GOE's closely but didn't see any reds
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