General Yuzuru Chat

[KatjaThera]

1 hour ago, kiches said:

 

I think I have a slightly different take on this, as I feel his desire to win has always been internal and doesn't really rely on anything else. Sure, he probably wants to pay back those who support him with results, but ultimately the motivation to compete and win has always come from within - which is why I'm not surprised if he genuinely wants to compete at Worlds. This is a skater who has was taken off the ice for about 4 months before he could compete again, I think he probably is itching to compete (so long as he gets a pass from the doctors).

 

He may say that he wants good results to pay people back, but ultimately, I think if we were to strip that from him his own desire to win and compete outweighs that, so I think that he's always done it for himself and is still competing because he genuinely wants to compete. I don't ever expect him to be the type of skater that would say "I'm just skating for the joy of skating" because competing = joy for him.

 

I do agree that once he won the Olympics again and accomplished his goal even with injury, that a huge weight was lifted off his shoulders. I think that weight has been on him since he won Sochi and is probably why he felt he needed to compete continually these last 4 years. He knew the best way to make his case for that second Olympic gold was to not skip competitions and do the grand prix each year, even though Shirota advised him to take at least the GP off after Sochi. I think, if the injury hadn't happened he may have considered a short break, but because he was forced to sit out of competitions he may actually do the grand prix next season if he's healthy, and Worlds if the doctors let him.

 

 

 

I think I didn't express my point properly, because I agree with you. I think just that the need he felt to give back weighed a lot and it was a need to win, perhaps more than a desire to win. It added a pressure and urgency to everything, that weight we're talking about.

 

I actually think it's great if he was able to sort of set a deadline for it. Like "I will do this and then that will be it." because I think that is very hard to do. I've always wondered if he's had any help with his survivor's guilt, but maybe actually in his study of psychology and such he studied that, too, and helped himself.

 

That said, I fully agree, the competitiveness and the desire to win have always been his, but I wonder if the rest didn't overshadow it. Who knows. Good thing is he seems to be over it and you know what? I believe a Yuzu having fun will create even more mindblowing moments than he's done so far...

[OonsieHui]

Gotta say though I kinda doubt the truth of the story because how would anyone know what was said in a confidential doctor-patient interview? 

[Summer]

Hanyu is an adult so he can make his own decisions. It’s not my place to worry about him. Of course I don’t wish his injuries to get any worse but he does what he wants to do.

 

What I know about him is that he is a very competitive athlete who has not been able to compete in three months thus missing many competitions he wanted to attend to. Competing equals fun to him. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he goes to Milan. World championships (Milan, Saitama) are much more important than GP-series. After Milan he could skip next fall and have his next comp be Japan Nationals.

[OonsieHui]

 

Literally the only "facts" we know are about the choosing a particular doctor thing (which honestly I find pretty silly unless that doctor also happens to specialise in sports injuries. Or not he would just have to refer him to a sports specialist), and the three hour long consultation. Three hour long consultations aren't normal. As a medical student, hearing it took that long is actually quite worrying. It means it wasn't an easy to accept result but one that require an extremely detailed discussion about rehabilitation options and future options. 

 

Also just to point out doctors can't stop Yuzuru from doing anything. All they can do is advise. Patient autonomy rules. If he still decides to do it against their advice, all they can do is work with him to minimise consequences. 

[SparkleSalad]

Mr Hanyu... y u do dis?

 

[xeyra]

2 minutes ago, OonsieHui said:

 

Literally the only "facts" we know are about the choosing a particular doctor thing (which honestly I find pretty silly unless that doctor also happens to specialise in sports injuries. Or not he would just have to refer him to a sports specialist), and the three hour long consultation. Three hour long consultations aren't normal. As a medical student, hearing it took that long is actually quite worrying. It means it wasn't an easy to accept result but one that require an extremely detailed discussion about rehabilitation options and future options. 

 

The 3-hours probably also includes exams on his foot and subsequent waiting time. 

[OonsieHui]

2 minutes ago, xeyra said:

 

The 3-hours probably also includes exams on his foot and subsequent waiting time. 

 

From the tweet it says "discussion with the doctor took three hours"

 

Obviously everything with a grain of salt since we nothing is official or confirmed. 

[SparkleSalad]

Important video with important sound.

 

 

Okay, back to losing sleep.

[MrPudding]

2 minutes ago, SparkleSalad said:

Important video with important sound.

 

 

Okay, back to losing sleep.

very important indeed. saved. ah (shrieking)

[Pamigena]

6 minutes ago, SparkleSalad said:

Important video with important sound.

 

 

Okay, back to losing sleep.

 

I swear my great aunt used to have a bird that made noises exactly like that 

[Fay]

Just now, Pamigena said:

 

I swear my great aunt used to have a bird that made noises exactly like that 

That bird must have provided vocal classes to our Swan... 

[xeyra]

27 minutes ago, SparkleSalad said:

Important video with important sound.

 

 

Okay, back to losing sleep.

 

What a menace. 

[Hydroblade]

11 minutes ago, Fay said:

That bird must have provided vocal classes to our Swan... 

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Find the difference

 

[Murieleirum]

Guys, so on facebook I read that there is no clear source for that article we shared and translated, so we shouldn't really follow up on that... (at least, dear Elena C, Max and his team were pretty skeptical of it and said that until there are official statements from the JSF, fake news will abound). 

[Fay]

8 minutes ago, Hydroblade said:

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Find the difference

 

Now I’m getting mental pictures of Yuzu protecting his babies just like this...