General Yuzuru Chat

[Sombreuil]

The swans are a charming idea 

[xeyra]

7 minutes ago, Floria said:

Dick Button with his message to Yuzu

 

 

And @gladi's translation!

 

Button on failure 66 years ago. To Hanyu’s quest for 2nd victory: “Relax & Enjoy” (9.05 Nikkan Sports)

[gladi]

On 9/4/2017 at 7:59 AM, xeyra said:

It's legit. yude at GS did a similar translation of Orser's interview. I'm sure @gladi is on it.

 

Indeed, on it  That one's a behemoth, it's 9k+ Japanese characters, plus I'm trying to do a four-way reference (although often only two magazines would end up covering the same bit of material), so you'll have to wait a bit.

 

But I'll confirm that Yuzu really is training 4A in practice according to Brian (Figure Skate Magazine, Memorial, WFS). The question raised by the reporter was about Yuzu's plans to challenge new jumps. The answer with 4Lz and 4A was given in the context of summer, off-season training, and that it is normal to experiment with new things during this period, for all skaters in TCC, down to 12-yo Gogolev. For Yuzu, it was like "Well, let's try the 4Lz today?" "4A today." No finalized plan regarding layouts and it'll be some weeks (from media day) before that happens, except that it must be smart and strategic. That Brian thinks it's more appropriate a question for Yuzu than for him. And it's not that they must follow suit just because other skaters are doing 4Lz and 4F.

 

I got no sense whatsoever that 4A was ever put into a layout. Also, just to note, all 95 reporters + photographers were there in Day 1 when Brian did the interview. There would have been a bigger and more immediate reaction overall if there were any likelihood that 4A would be put into the layout this season. 4Lz is a slightly different matter. We have gotten ZERO direct confirmation from Yuzu so far, some indirect form of confirmation from Tsuzuki-sensei in one article from the Yokohama event. But we have also actually seen a 4Lz attempt in WTT gala practice.

 

 

 

 

 

[Fay]

@gladi can we just give you an angel status? Thank you so much for your hard work and dedication!

[xeyra]

31 minutes ago, gladi said:

 

Indeed, on it  That one's a behemoth, it's 9k+ Japanese characters, plus I'm trying to do a four-way reference (although often only two magazines would end up covering the same bit of material), so you'll have to wait a bit.

 

But I'll confirm that Yuzu really is training 4A in practice according to Brian (Figure Skate Magazine, Memorial, WFS). The question raised by the reporter was about Yuzu's plans to challenge new jumps. The answer with 4Lz and 4A was given in the context of summer, off-season training, and that it is normal to experiment with new things during this period, for all skaters in TCC, down to 12-yo Gogolev. For Yuzu, it was like "Well, let's try the 4Lz today?" "4A today." No finalized plan regarding layouts and it'll be some weeks (from media day) before that happens, except that it must be smart and strategic. That Brian thinks it's more appropriate a question for Yuzu than for him. And it's not that they must follow suit just because other skaters are doing 4Lz and 4F.

 

I got no sense whatsoever that 4A was ever put into a layout. Also, just to note, all 95 reporters + photographers were there in Day 1 when Brian did the interview. There would have been a bigger and more immediate reaction overall if there were any likelihood that 4A would be put into the layout this season. 4Lz is a slightly different matter. We have gotten ZERO direct confirmation from Yuzu so far, some indirect form of confirmation from Tsuzuki-sensei in one article from the Yokohama event. But we have also actually seen a 4Lz attempt in WTT gala practice.

 

 

Yeah, I honestly don't think anyone believed 4A would be coming at all, but it's fun to have official confirmation by Brian of him trying it out, though we already knew. Brian continues the path of caution, which is probably why Javi is not going for 4 quads in his FS (and 4Lo is a question mark), and Yuzu still has a decision to make. He has to think about his consistency with and without the 4Lz and using it might lower the overall success rate of his runthroughs, so he may be hesitant.

 

On the other hand, none of his biggest opponents outside of the uncles may be playing it safe. But they have nothing to lose. 

 

Or he's not hesitating at all, he's just being a troll.

[Hydroblade]

2 minutes ago, xeyra said:

Or he's not hesitating at all, he's just being a troll.

 

Well, we will know soon 

[kiches]

48 minutes ago, gladi said:

 

Indeed, on it  That one's a behemoth, it's 9k+ Japanese characters, plus I'm trying to do a four-way reference (although often only two magazines would end up covering the same bit of material), so you'll have to wait a bit.

 

But I'll confirm that Yuzu really is training 4A in practice according to Brian (Figure Skate Magazine, Memorial, WFS). The question raised by the reporter was about Yuzu's plans to challenge new jumps. The answer with 4Lz and 4A was given in the context of summer, off-season training, and that it is normal to experiment with new things during this period, for all skaters in TCC, down to 12-yo Gogolev. For Yuzu, it was like "Well, let's try the 4Lz today?" "4A today." No finalized plan regarding layouts and it'll be some weeks (from media day) before that happens, except that it must be smart and strategic. That Brian thinks it's more appropriate a question for Yuzu than for him. And it's not that they must follow suit just because other skaters are doing 4Lz and 4F.

 

I got no sense whatsoever that 4A was ever put into a layout. Also, just to note, all 95 reporters + photographers were there in Day 1 when Brian did the interview. There would have been a bigger and more immediate reaction overall if there were any likelihood that 4A would be put into the layout this season. 4Lz is a slightly different matter. We have gotten ZERO direct confirmation from Yuzu so far, some indirect form of confirmation from Tsuzuki-sensei in one article from the Yokohama event. But we have also actually seen a 4Lz attempt in WTT gala practice.

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you so much for keeping us up to date on these interviews! I've been eating them up and really enjoying Yuzu, Brian, and Shae-Lynn's points of view.

 

It's too bad David Wilson was sick as I'm curious what he would've had to say (and also why he would've been there since one of his past interviews made it seem like he no longer worked with Yuzu - but that was before Notte Stellata).

 

Supposedly they filmed his 4lz attempts during FaoI practice, right? I think there was one landed not perfectly, and one that was absolutely perfect. I really want to see it, but I feel like they're purposely holding that footage. Maybe when/if he eventually announces a lutz.

[gladi]

5 minutes ago, kiches said:

Thank you so much for keeping us up to date on these interviews! I've been eating them up and really enjoying Yuzu, Brian, and Shae-Lynn's points of view.

 

It's too bad David Wilson was sick as I'm curious what he would've had to say (and also why he would've been there since one of his past interviews made it seem like he no longer worked with Yuzu - but that was before Notte Stellata).

 

Supposedly they filmed his 4lz attempts during FaoI practice, right? I think there was one landed not perfectly, and one that was absolutely perfect. I really want to see it, but I feel like they're purposely holding that footage. Maybe when/if he eventually announces a lutz.

 

Ahahaha I was quite curious about David Wilson too. But since he's on staff and based in TCC, I wouldn't be surprised that he actually does work with Yuzu (and everyone else) on body movement, expression and the like, not to mention since he's worked with him on Notte Stellata now. Just like the rest of the specialized coaches who are pretty low-key, but do work with Yuzu extensively behind the scenes. Paige for spins, etc.

[Yatagarasu]

18 minutes ago, kiches said:

Supposedly they filmed his 4lz attempts during FaoI practice, right? I think there was one landed not perfectly, and one that was absolutely perfect. I really want to see it, but I feel like they're purposely holding that footage. Maybe when/if he eventually announces a lutz.

 

Yup, there was but I think we can safely assume it's being held on purpose. As a new jump it'd be big news so if they're not showing it, something that would garner them interest and views, then there is a block on it. Presumably once it's being used, they might show it as a progression of a sorts.

[Aotoshiro]

2 hours ago, gladi said:

For Yuzu, it was like "Well, let's try the 4Lz today?" "4A today."

I'm sorry but I imagined this scene, and just, burst out laughing - loud:

Brian, accepting his hair loss, trying to minimalise the damage hesitantly suggest 4Lz he saw two skaters, one with similar landing technique to Yuzu, perform. Yuzu listen patiently, wipes sweat, or puts hair behind his ear, smiles sunnily, before dropping to a practice killer!Yuzu stare and answers:

'4A today.'

Thus Brian's hair fate's decided, rest of the skaters on the practice resignedly take last gulps of their waters, knowing the risk of choking during Yuzuru's 'It's the off-season! I can JUMP!' practices rises a bit too high for anybody's comfort.

[gladi]

2 hours ago, xeyra said:

 

Yeah, I honestly don't think anyone believed 4A would be coming at all, but it's fun to have official confirmation by Brian of him trying it out, though we already knew. Brian continues the path of caution, which is probably why Javi is not going for 4 quads in his FS (and 4Lo is a question mark), and Yuzu still has a decision to make. He has to think about his consistency with and without the 4Lz and using it might lower the overall success rate of his runthroughs, so he may be hesitant.

 

On the other hand, none of his biggest opponents outside of the uncles may be playing it safe. But they have nothing to lose. 

 

Or he's not hesitating at all, he's just being a troll.

 

 

We joke about hair loss, and I think it's true that Brian is largely more conservative than Yuzu. But Brian has been encouraging Javi to do the 4Lo for a while, all the way back to 2014.

 

From October 2016. http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2016/10/28/207396238/sprinting-out-of-the-gate-hanyu-plans-six-quads

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"Javi is happy to see the other guys do the flips and the loops, and he'll just say, 'I'm sticking with what I do well,'" Orser said. "That's his strategy. I know he can do quad loop, and I've talked to him about it, and he's just not that into it. But Yuzu -- he's still young, he's still developing. He wants to try everything."

 

From JWC/WC 2014. http://www.figureskating-online.com/brian-orser.html

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Q: Do you think men’s skating is going towards more and more quads?

 

Brian: Yes, it will happen. Javi has had some success with the quad loop and we discussed this before and this last summer. I just think he didn’t get his head wrapped around it, I think just because of the Olympics, we have what we have. But now we have another quadrennial and maybe it’s time that we introduce the quad loop and that maybe will be our project this summer to try to maybe focus on that. Yuzuru would be the same, he will do the Sal and the toe for now. Not sure if he’ll get a quad loop, maybe a quad Axel before that, it’s so big (laughs).

 

[Murieleirum]

9 minutes ago, gladi said:

From JWC/WC 2014. http://www.figureskating-online.com/brian-orser.html

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Q: Do you think men’s skating is going towards more and more quads?

 

Brian: Yes, it will happen. Javi has had some success with the quad loop and we discussed this before and this last summer. I just think he didn’t get his head wrapped around it, I think just because of the Olympics, we have what we have. But now we have another quadrennial and maybe it’s time that we introduce the quad loop and that maybe will be our project this summer to try to maybe focus on that. Yuzuru would be the same, he will do the Sal and the toe for now. Not sure if he’ll get a quad loop, maybe a quad Axel before that, it’s so big (laughs).

 When Brian could still speak about quad Axel and laugh 

[kiches]

I'm sure Brian wishes Javi and Yuzu would rub off on each other sometimes! 

 

I hope we get that quad lutz footage sometimes this season regardless if he plans to put it in or not. His jumps are such a a beauty I'm sure I'll be rewatching it in awe for a long time. As it is I rewatch the one with the messy landing from WTT quite often. 

[Ladysci]

8 hours ago, Floria said:

 

Thanks for the reminder and link. I'm not ready at all since it will around midnight   here in the UK when ticket sales start, but I'll sure have my credit card ready and try!

[Yukiko Sakae]

This is another article about Button for Yuzuru.

If it is already shared, sorry!

 

https://seimeiyuzu.tumblr.com/post/165014195725/button-on-failure-66-years-ago-to-hanyus-quest