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3 minutes ago, Elaine said:

I can hardly believe Yuzu is practicing 4FTBH the least possible quad for him is 4F imo

 Yes that is what Ambesi inteded (that one he is not developing is the 4Flip): maybe there was a typo in my post and this was not clear. Sorry

1) I listened again the podcast to be sure (the volume of audio of Max's parts is not always the best: they assure the problem will be fixed for the next podcasts) and he says that: Yuzuru in training is capable to "close" literally 5 type of quads on six type of jumps; that one he is not developing is the 4Flip, but rather the 4A, that he is be capable to "close" at around of 30% of the attempts.

And then he underlines in conclusion: We are speaking of 4A...we will see it in the next seasons...but the novelty of this season is the Lutz.

In Italian: "Yuzuru è un atleta che in allenamento chiude comodamente 5 quadrupli di 6, quello che non ha sviluppato è il (4)Flip, invece l'Axel (quadruplo) lo chiude, magari con il 30% (di possibilità) ma lo chiude...il 4Axel, non so se mi spiego, lo vedremo in gara nelle stagioni che verranno....ma la novità di quest'anno è il 4Lutz."

2) I do think that Yuzuru has not showed so much of 4Lutz and, more, of 4Axel, in the first case because it is not at the level in terms of beauty that he wants yet, and in the second because the succes rate is still too low.

But there could be also other reasons that others have already mentioned.

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He really does not beat around any bushes, does he?

No, he is very clear and straightforward . But what I likes in him that it seems to not have particular biases, and at least not that of nationality one. For example in the same podcast he said important things about Carolina Kostner, among which the fact that, in spite to be a beautifull and skilled skater, her skating programs now are "surpassed" by a FS that is changed from 2014 also in the ladies field.

3 minutes ago, Floria said:

4Lz in SP? 

This is what Ambesi said he is training. But we don't know it for sure (also if the man seems to be always very informed about yuzu). And the fact that he is training it, doesn't mean necessarily he will decide to do it in also competition: probably it will depend by the success of the two versions and also by what it will happen during the season.

24 minutes ago, xeyra said:

 

1) SE-4Lz-SE? 

2) 30% is about 1 out of 3 attempts?

Ambesi didn't say anything about the transitions in and out of this jump. Just that he is training with the two versions of the program, with this difference in the first jump. I image possibly with different transitions. Before he was saying that Yuzuru could win OG also with a "simplified" SP program, i.e. with the 4S, as we have seen in ACI, but he would not do it, but rather go for 4Loop or 4Lutz because we know... he is Yuzuru  Hanyu :). He is an athlete who wants to push the sport and himself to the limit.

Also about the 4A he said only that thing about the 30% rate of success. He said also in an other occasion before, if I remember correctly.

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I'm listening to Max Ambesi's podcast too. Tbh is really so much stuff, I don't have the strenght to make a translation because it gets really detailed about things I don't know that much  but the amount of  detail is also what makes you really understand what is the difference between who makes generic talks and who really knows the sport and the athletes too.

I have just finished to listen Max podcast too, and I absolutely agree with @LadyLou on the point above. I think he is one of the most informed journalist i have heard in this field. And the amounts of things he knows about all the skaters, also all the junior, is unbelievable.

Other interesting things he said, following me, are:

1) It seems that Yuzuru is training his SP in two versions, one with the 4loop and another with the 4lutz as first jump. We will see in the next competitions

2) He thinks that Yuzuru will land (not this year) the 4axel, repeating that for now the rate success of this jump seems to be around 30%.

3) He stressed a lot the problem of the quality of the jumps and transitions in men but also in ladies fields

4) All the last part where he discusses the problems of the score and the judging: the current situation and the supposed changes after this OGM cycle.

One point he underlines, and I agree with him, is that the lowering the points of jumps will change not so much. It will be better to review the way GOE are given and, more, how PCS are given.

Also, an aspect that he can't understand - and me neither - why we look at protocols where the PCS seem to follow TES and not to be valued for themselves and where all the components have the same average marks: so, for example, if SS are in the range of the 8-9's, also all the other components are almost the same, while you could have someone with brilliant skating skills, scoring in the 8-9's in that part, but with a scarce interpretation or lame coreography, that should get a lower score (like in 6-7's).

2 minutes ago, Murieleirum said:

 

The link of the podcast is here!

 

Not only he is salty, he is literally on flames at the end (I finished now, it's almost 2 hours long ugh) lololol but the main arguments are: Eteri and other FS schools all around the world who should follow closely at how she prepares her athletes (he's her number 2 biggest fan probably lol), Lombardia's scores, ISU score system change. 

 

 

thank you !

6 minutes ago, Murieleirum said:

Spoiler alert: Max is salty AF in the podcast. 

 

(If anyone is interested in a full translation, I might work on it tomorrow morning! )

Also before a possible translation, it's possible to know about what he is so salty?

And you can post here or pm me a link or the information to reach those podcasts? Thanks a lot !

1 minute ago, Fay said:

Some Russian haters, the kind that once said Gachinsky's spread eagle entry into the 3A was more difficult than Yuzu's counter...

Ok, so there's no need to take them more in consideration

I take this opportunity to thank you for all the works for this site and also for all the translations and feedbacks you give us form Russian FS world .

36 minutes ago, Fay said:

gotta ask you - some people claim the combo was UR - less than a quarter, but still. Would you say it was? 

Dear @Fay, where they are claiming that? I am not an expert, but from what I can see if they want call an UR on that 3T, they should call of all a lot of other triples in combination....What do you think about it?

This is the translation reported by yude in Yuzu's GS thread:

http://www.asahi.com/articles/ASK9Q2CWMK9QUTQP004.html

In LP, Yuzuru is planning two 3A and three quads in the latter half. He won't do 4Lo in this competition. Orser says 4Ltz is a part of the plans and a goal for this season.

Orser says Yuzuru's condition is the best ever. The pain in his right knee is a little and he doesn't need (special) treatment. But to feel the pain means the body is trying to say something, so Orser decided to water down the programs technically. Orser thinks the cause of the pain is fatigue from the practice.

Edit: I was posting contemporary with @kaerb whose translation was also more complete than the other I found: thanks to you all for this work of translation from Japanese

8 hours ago, Murieleirum said:

Dlin Dlon!

Mi sono appena accorta che su Milano2018 è uscito il modulo da compilare per fare i volontari.

 

E niente, io compilo e incrocio le dita 

Grazie per le nuove @Murieleirum !

Io purtroppo mi potrò liberare dal lavoro solo per un paio di giorni e dunque cercherò di acquistare i biglietti per le singole competizioni quando usciranno.

Spero che tu riesca a farti prendere tra i volontari (e che tu ci possa fare un rapporto "dettagliato" e documentato da tante foto o video di Yuzu, mi raccomando.....) 

Salve è da un poco che il thread non è attivo:  quindi intanto un saluto a tutt*

Volevo sapere se avete dei suggerimenti per la zona di Milano nella quale cercare un  b&b dove stare per i prossimi mondiali. Io pensavo qualche zona vicino alle fermate della M2 ma non so, perché non conosco bene la città.

Ogni vostra eventuale indicazione sarà preziosa, grazie!

This beautiful video of Axel Yuzu has already been posted in the general thread by @Amarante  (thanks!) https://planethanyu.com/topic/3-general-yuzuru-chat/?do=findComment&comment=45231

I post it also here for the sake of the completness of the thread : 羽生結弦 × Yuzuru Hanyu ～ Hope & Legacy

While we are waiting news photos and new footages from FaOI, last days some new MAD appeared in the web.

This is "Fire" by 宋果果 (We are the champions, we are on fire...and nothing's gonna be the same )

And this is "Legend" by YUZU 桑的文档里藏着盆地 (just...speechless )

1 minute ago, teeannroo said:

 

 4:00-7:00am for me so that's totally out of the question esp with school the next day. 

 

Will someone please record it? 

Yes....pretty please ?

1 minute ago, liha said:

 

We don't really know why this happens but I had the same problem before (I couldn't log in from the index page and everytime I accessed the index page I would be logged out again. Also on firefox)

 

What helped was restarting the browser. Hope that helps you, too!

Thank you @liha: yes I thought to do the same and it worked (I have just updated my previous post). But from what you say maybe was a major problem in connecting with firefox (though I had no problem in the connession to other sites in the meantime).

Hi, sorry to bother you but today I had a new problem: first I signed in, and I had to do it twice, as if I was not recognized as user, then I accessed the thread to read / post (that about FaOI in Kobe), but every time after that I tryed to go to the home or to refresh, I was signed out, so that I had to resign (every time twice) and so on...can you check if is a site problem or my problem (I'm connecting via laptop through firefox).

Thank you in advance

EDIT: I tryed to solve the problem quitting firefox and connecting again, and it seems that now the access to the site works properly. So maybe it was my problem...?

Yes I do not understand: If you check some twitter account, like this, for example, https://twitter.com/boyangjins, you can find glimpses of a lot of skaters performances (P&C, Miki, Shoma, Shizuka...), but no Yuzu

Done! It was so difficult to choose only five among them....Congratulations to all of you who created all these beautiful banners 

dear @gladi thank you so much for this accurate and insightful translation

I understand that trying to translate Yuzu's toughts&words (I am always amazed by his awareness and his depth in analyzing things) is not an easy task...

9 minutes ago, Emzie said:

Yeah, we're having slight technical difficulties. We're trying to fix everything as quickly as possible, sorry for the inconvenience 

Ok, I see that is a general issue and that you are already aware of all. Good woork and good luck (and thank to all the admins and mods for the efforts made and to be made in fixing it  !)

Sorry, but last hour I have had also problems to access the site, with firefox as well as with safari, from laptop and tablet both.

For me the site/forum was not reachable at all, and the message I received said that the page could be not opened because there were to many readdresses (safari) or something like the server was not responding in the right way (firefox).

Now I have had finally the access but the banner looks something like a dotted impressionist painting...

New videos of these last two weeks, by kana kolo (pity for the quality, that seems to be not the max).

The music of One OK Rock suits always well to Yuzu (or Yuzu suits always well to every kind of music...)

@Gio e @Murieleirum grazie mille !

Sì ho letto in qualche post la delusione per questa scelta ma come ha detto Shirota (vedi il post di Gio) un poco di sano pragmatismo in vista della prossima stagione e delle Olimpiadi non guasta, anche se immagino che forse l'idea possa andare un poco stretta a Yuzu e lasci alcuni suoi fan un poco spiazzati. Tuttavia ho piena fiducia in lui e nelle sue scelte strategiche, e anche nei possibili consigli del suo team.

Non so invece se ripeterà anche Seimei, come sembrano pensare alcuni...