WinForPooh Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Huiqi said: What you said are all your own speculation. The thing is, Medv has made it clear that she is not leaving Eteri in an interview. What happened in between then and now, only Eteri and Medv know. So, imo, we should not judge too quickly. Actually, the interview with Trankov (I think - one of the many interviews) said that it was clear in the team that there was friction between the two in Korea but they managed to keep it out of the press. The initial statement from Laishev said the two had been fighting and the club was trying to figure it out. (ETA: The interview is kind of immaterial, because you don't communicate friction within a team to media like that, and when you're asked a question by media, you answer it positively.) And the assumption that Evgenia did not communicate with her coach is also just that - an assumption based on Eteri's words and a few carefully selected texts from the latter part of that time period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huiqi Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, WinForPooh said: And the assumption that Evgenia did not communicate with her coach is also just that - an assumption based on Eteri's words and a few carefully selected texts from the latter part of that time period. An assumption can turn out to be true just like the rumours. So the thing is, we still don't know the complete truth and i dont think we will ever know. So i won't judge them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinForPooh Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I'm not saying that Zhenya did everything perfectly, either. I do think that going to Eteri directly before sorting everything out with the fed and club and new coach would've been a mistake, judging by the Yulia situation. Maybe there was a better way to do it, but if Zhenya decided to err on the side of caution because she knew exactly how Eteri had reacted to her previous favourite students, I don't blame her at all. Zhenya did look out for Zhenya, but she didn't get into a public mudslinging match to do it. She's entitled to the former, I respect her for the latter. I actually respect her for looking out for herself, too. Nobody else was going to do it for her. The entire thing was done within an hour after she landed and got in the building, so it had obviously been in the works for a while! If everybody involved knew enough to get the formal process going, and nobody formally told Eteri, well, I find that hard to believe in a professional setup, and if it's true, there might be good reason why. 4 minutes ago, Huiqi said: An assumption can turn out to be true just like the rumours. So the thing is, we still don't know the complete truth and i dont think we will ever know. So i won't judge them. The rumours have been substantiated by many people, while the assumption has been only claimed by one person. That should be weighed differently. But nobody's asking you to judge them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huiqi Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, WinForPooh said: The rumours have been substantiated by many people, while the assumption has been only claimed by one person. Though the assumption is claimed by one person, you can't prove it to be untrue. Of course I know that no one is asking me to judge. I hope you have lots of fun judging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinForPooh Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Huiqi said: Though the assumption is claimed by one person, you can't prove it to be untrue. Of course I know that no one is asking me to judge. I hope you have lots of fun judging. Nobody declared definitively that Eteri is lying. We're all talking about what we believe, while making it clear that it's speculation. ETA: In this context, saying no judging and listen to both sides is actually a bit of a judgment because one side has revealed what they want out there about what went on between the two parties, and the other has not. There's an imbalance there. @FayIs JudgeJudyFunForever taken as username? Maybe I can change mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Guys, could we stop here? No one can judge Eteri, since she’s out of our jurisdiction, but people can have opinions about her and can criticise her actions and her methods freely, as long as it’s not turned into a personal bashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzupon Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Nope. Still maintaining my position that what Tutberidze did on Sunday, the (attempted) character assassination of her former student, is wrong. No matter the motivation. That's the part I'm judging (for which I gain no personal satisfaction whatsoever, by the way). And the reasons have all been elaborated repeatedly, we're turning into broken records. That's the last time I'm commenting on this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xen Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Guys, until more information is revealed, we're all just guessing. And at this rate, we're turning this thread into a Eteri vs Evgenia battle royale (for the truth is out there) thread. Going by the title here, how many other coaching changes do we know of? I'm still waiting to hear what happens with Jason, confirmation for Polina Tsurskaya, and heard there might be a chance Weaver/Poje switch coaches? And murmurs about Papadikis/Cizeron? We're also missing all the ice dance coaching change drama o_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaeryth Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, Xen said: Guys, until more information is revealed, we're all just guessing. And at this rate, we're turning this thread into a Eteri vs Evgenia battle royale (for the truth is out there) thread. Going by the title here, how many other coaching changes do we know of? I'm still waiting to hear what happens with Jason, confirmation for Polina Tsurskaya, and heard there might be a chance Weaver/Poje switch coaches? And murmurs about Papadikis/Cizeron? We're also missing all the ice dance coaching change drama o_O I posted that everyone was going to Gadbois a while back but it got lost because Russian drama is more interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodie axel Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Any speculation as to why Wakaba probably isn't going to Orser? What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirelle Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 38 minutes ago, hoodie axel said: Any speculation as to why Wakaba probably isn't going to Orser? What happened? Wasn’t the only actual noise about it from Max? And basically that one time soon after (? my sense of time is usually completely off) the Olympics? We kinda wanted to believe? Not that Max wasn’t spot on with Yuzu stuff last year but I don’t remember any details about Wakaba coming out. Eta: What I meant to finish off with was, it’s hard to speculate when there’s so little info to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilona Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Camilla Valieva and Maya Hromih moved to Tutberidze. I think this two from three talented little girls that were born in first half of 2006. Now we have the names. I read someone wrote that Camilla is very talented girl. Moris left Tutb but apparently came back to her. (rumor) Lauzons take in too many dance pairs-there already 15+ (I don't really know who they are (Lozons), but according to comments it's coaches of Papadakis-Cizeron and very famous in dance circles). Chock and Bates also moved to Montreal to them. Rumor has it PC can left them to Zueva?? Also it's not coach changes but someone wrote to me in twitter that Boyang is officially in TCC? Any confirmations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilona Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 TSL reports that Biyang indeed in TCC with Borser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodie axel Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Lilona said: TSL reports that Biyang indeed in TCC with Borser That's quite old. IDK if he' already there, but would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinForPooh Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 I don't think we've really heard anything to contradict the original report that Boyang was doing a summer thing at TCC with his main coach. The long-term moving part was mostly wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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