Team Russia

[monchan]

9 minutes ago, Tsubakindy said:

Well originally it was Gubanova's spot..i address Junior russian ladies by their last name because almost all of them have the same name? So many Annas Alenas and Anastasyas this year ha ha 

I often address them w 1st name + 1st letter of last name as their last names are all too long and difficult. I can't even 'scherbakova'? Is it right writing? Now we even got 2 Alena K. I'm done 

[Murieleirum]

16 hours ago, LucyH said:

Who am I going to remember and think OMG that was a great figure skater, is it going to Kostner or a junior who landed 3 quads

 

Both, because they both made history, Kostner is the 'oldest' lady in the field and still skates to the highest level, Trusova landed the first quadruple Toeloop and Salchow just at 13 years old. 

You should think that the same thing that you are saying now for the quadruples and the juniors, people used to say about the triples. Sport evolution is always scary. But it's dangerous only when it's done with bad technique and unsupervised. Same as with triples or doubles, or spins, or everything skating. 

 

I know everyone is free to have their own opinions, but it's really just always the same type of worries with quadruples and juniors and 'they won't last a year' and 'the coaches shouldn't make them'. If Trusova has fun training quadruples together with everything else, if she is healthy doing what she loves, if her determination to win and push the sport forward makes her do this, what exactly is ruining the sport here? 

 

I remember that Yuzuru fell badly attempting a 2A or a 3A when he was Trusova's age I think, and he hit his head. All figure skating jumps are dangerous. There is nothing different between Yuzuru then and now, and these wonderful ladies who push themselves because they love skating. 

 

Lastly, I would like for you to read a snippet of Trusova's interview from some months ago, that someone in the Italian skating fb group translated from Russian:

 

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AT: The hardest thing to do is to pick up the rhythm and keep working (after summer vacations). But I like training, especially I like jumping. If it weren't for my coaches, I would always be jumping. Before, they used to tell me "Sasha, enough. No need to keep going.". But I wanted to go on. Now I still want to go on, but I understood that if I jump too many times, I can get hurt, so I listen and do what they tell me. So that, in the future, I can continue doing them.

-Have you read in the news what it's being said about you and quadruples?

AT: After the competition I read, looked at the videos. But when they start writing that girls should not be doing quads, that my body will break, I close the page immediately. I don't understand, why do they write these things? I want to try. I want to learn new things. Before bringing a program with a quadruple, we worked so hard in training, tried. It's not like I wanted to do them, and there, we put them. I worked so hard for this. And if I do everything technically correct, with focus, warming up, training, then why should I get hurt? If you speak like this, then you will never try something new, because everything that is new is also difficult.

 

 

[Guest turquoiseblue]

Sochi 2014 champion Sotnikova to miss new figure skating season

 

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Olympic figure skating gold medallist Adelina Sotnikova has announced that she will miss the entirety of the 2018-2019 season.

 

The 22-year-old Russian, the women's champion on home ice at Sochi 2014, has only competed once on the flagship Grand Prix of Figure Skating circuit since then as she has been plagued by injury.

 

She finished sixth at the 2015 Russian Championships and has claimed she does not want to return until she is ready to compete at the very top level.

 

"I will definitely miss this season for certain reasons, I understand what the composition of girls is now, the technical difficulties," she told Russia's state news agency TASS. 

 

"Going out on the ice, I do not want to lose, status is a status. 

 

"To come out and be sixth in the Russian Championship, I do not really want to."

 

[Fay]

6 minutes ago, turquoiseblue said:

Sochi 2014 champion Sotnikova to miss new figure skating season

 

 

Anyone expecting her to ever compete?!

[Deliverpooh]

12 hours ago, yuzuangel said:

Tbf this looks like a decent 4T and that transition is just mind boggling

She is phenomenal.

 

And a mini interview with Anna Shcherbakova:

 

 

Her English is really good.

[LucyH]

7 hours ago, Murieleirum said:

 

You should think that the same thing that you are saying now for the quadruples and the juniors, people used to say about the triples. Sport evolution is always scary. But it's dangerous only when it's done with bad technique and unsupervised. Same as with triples or doubles, or spins, or everything skating. 

 

I know everyone is free to have their own opinions, but it's really just always the same type of worries with quadruples and juniors and 'they won't last a year' and 'the coaches shouldn't make them'. If Trusova has fun training quadruples together with everything else, if she is healthy doing what she loves, if her determination to win and push the sport forward makes her do this, what exactly is ruining the sport here? 

 

I remember that Yuzuru fell badly attempting a 2A or a 3A when he was Trusova's age I think, and he hit his head. All figure skating jumps are dangerous. There is nothing different between Yuzuru then and now, and these wonderful ladies who push themselves because they love skating. 

 

Where do I say don't learn quads - I am questioning the need to have them all at such a young age. What is the rush? Why do Stephen and Sasha need to be training that many quads at that age? Why not train 1 and perfect it, let the body grow and mature and train others? See if the body will be able to sustain the quads. What's the point of having 3 quads or 4 quads at 13 or 14 and then none by 17? Are they rushing because they are over reliant on small size, low weight and rotational speed vs actual technique? As for the age thing, they are kids - they have no fear or sense of mortality. Therefore, it is up the coaches (you know the ADULTS in the situation) to control the pacing. Like I said, technical advancement is wonderful and should be encouraged but there is a right way to do this that both advances the sport and protects the kids. I am sorry but this particular coach has a history of "one and done" phenoms and hence my skepticism but I am also skeptical that Stephen will be able to keep all his quads as well.... That's my take on the matter. 

[Deliverpooh]

Congratulations to Anna and Anna. Just entered the grand prix and got the top two spots.

The Russian ladies are really great.

 

 

[Deliverpooh]

5 hours ago, Fay said:

Anyone expecting her to ever compete?!

Not really. She wouldn't stand a chance against her compatriots anymore, anyway.

 

[Murieleirum]

6 hours ago, LucyH said:

Like I said, technical advancement is wonderful and should be encouraged but there is a right way to do this that both advances the sport and protects the kids. I am sorry but this particular coach has a history of "one and done" phenoms and hence my skepticism but I am also skeptical that Stephen will be able to keep all his quads as well.... That's my take on the matter. 

 

I am sorry, but you sound like you know more about training quads and figure skating than those coaches and those athletes who are dedicating their daily life, their sweat and their future to it. Eteri and the other coaches have given their life to FS and they have no reputation of 'breaking' little girls, look at Evgenia, or Tsurskaya, they may have left Sambo but for reasons that had nothing to do with physical training. 

I have a rule which is not assuming I know more about a thing than someone who dedicates way more time and effort to that thing than me.

But everyone is free to have doubts and be skeptical - it's just, sometimes it's borderline offensive to the girls and athletes who are working so hard to do the best they can do, and their results get minimized. Not saying that this was your case. But I've read a lot, even in the Italian facebook group, and actually, discussions on these topics were the reason Mr. Ambesi left the group and won't comment anymore among us fans. 

Luckily we're all pretty polite here and we just agree to disagree if it comes to that point. 

[LucyH]

3 minutes ago, Murieleirum said:

 

I am sorry, but you sound like you know more about training quads and figure skating than those coaches and those athletes who are dedicating their daily life, their sweat and their future to it. Eteri and the other coaches have given their life to FS and they have no reputation of 'breaking' little girls, look at Evgenia, or Tsurskaya, they may have left Sambo but for reasons that had nothing to do with physical training. 

I have a rule which is not assuming I know more about a thing than someone who dedicates way more time and effort to that thing than me.

But everyone is free to have doubts and be skeptical - it's just, sometimes it's borderline offensive to the girls and athletes who are working so hard to do the best they can do, and their results get minimized. Not saying that this was your case. But I've read a lot, even in the Italian facebook group, and actually, discussions on these topics were the reason Mr. Ambesi left the group and won't comment anymore among us fans. 

Luckily we're all pretty polite here and we just agree to disagree if it comes to that point. 

Sounds like a plan - we'll agree to disagree

[WinForPooh]

Has this been posted? It looks different from before and so effortless!

 

 

 

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[yuzuangel]

8 minutes ago, turquoiseblue said:

 

Hi Masha

[Xen]

11 minutes ago, turquoiseblue said:

 

Hello there, we love you btw!

[yuzuangel]

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