General Skating Chat

[xeyra]

33 minutes ago, jinabee said:

Oh since we are posting statistics, someone on twitter wanted to know some stats for Chopin and how it compared to LGC and I was bored so:-

 

	Chopin 2014-15	Chopin 2015-16	LGC 2016-17
Planned BV	44.36	47.75	49.75
Average BV	40.04 (-4.32)	42.45 (-5.3)	42.5 (-7.25)
Highest BV	44.36 (x2)	48.05 (x2)	49.75 (x2)
Lowest BV	32.21	21.5	32.05
Average GOE	4.6 (9.99%)	10.02 (19.09%)	7.18 (14.45%)
Average PCS	44.6	47.16	46.28
Average Total	90.14	99.47	95.83

 

- for each season, the planned content was performed twice / the highest BV skated was performed twice.

- 15-16 has the biggest outlier thanks to that time all his jumps except the 3A were invalidated,

- LGC had the most errors that resulted in lower BV but still managed to receive fairly high GOE 

- H&L had an average GOE of 11.7% of the TES 

- Despite more consistent errors in LGC the PCS didn't really get penalised that much on average

- however the difference between 15-16 and LGC would have been bigger if i didn't include that outlier

 

It's worth noting I included scores from WTT and Japanese Nationals when applicable which could generate difference if other averages were worked out with only international competitions included.

 

Jina, which competitions did you use for Yuzu? Because your LGC averages don't match the ones in the spreadsheet and now I'm wondering if I did any mistake putting in the data. Since he didn't go to Nationals in 2016, they shouldn't differ, I think. 

[CupidsBow]

9 minutes ago, xeyra said:

 

Jina, which competitions did you use for Yuzu? Because your LGC averages don't match the ones in the spreadsheet and now I'm wondering if I did any mistake putting in the data. 

 

 

 

 

I used every one he did as recorded here

 

 

[xeyra]

2 minutes ago, jinabee said:

 

I used everyone he did as recorded here

 

 

 

Ah it's missing WTT, there's the difference. Thank you! That reassures me. 

[CupidsBow]

Just now, xeyra said:

 

Ah it's missing WTT, there's the difference. Thank you! That reassures me. 

 

 

ahaha yeah LGC is missing WTT, I was worried too cuz maths isn't usually my thing

[xeyra]

1 minute ago, jinabee said:

 

ahaha yeah LGC is missing WTT, I was worried too cuz maths isn't usually my thing

 

I just let Excel do all the math and if it matched protocols I was good. :)

 

I did worry I'd done something wrong because that SP average would have actually placed Yuzu above Shoma in the SP average. WTT was such a return to SC Yuzu. 

[sallycinnamon]

On 2017. 06. 02. at 12:07, xeyra said:

I'm going to add to the first tab's table the BV, PCS and Score averages for easier comparison. Anything else you or anyone thinks might be useful to also add, let me know, aside from the promised jump rate percentages, which are going to be another nightmare (though @sallycinnamon already did Yuzu's before).

 

Also, I've now actually opened the google sheet for editing, because I was dumb and had it view only. 

 

Do you have Yuzu's jump rate percentages, or should I send it to you again?

 

Today I continued working on Yuzu's senior career stats, which will include, besides of the success rates of his jumps, the average GOE, TES, PCS and SP, FS scores in a spreadsheet. I added all his executed jumps from his competitions, because this is one thing I wanted to have in a single file, just for comparison.

I'll post then the final version here (I still don't know when, it depends on my free time).

[xeyra]

2 hours ago, sallycinnamon said:

 

Do you have Yuzu's jump rate percentages, or should I send it to you again?

 

Today I continued working on Yuzu's senior career stats, which will include, besides of the success rates of his jumps, the average GOE, TES, PCS and SP, FS scores in a spreadsheet. I added all his executed jumps from his competitions, because this is one thing I wanted to have in a single file, just for comparison.

I'll post then the final version here (I still don't know when, it depends on my free time).

 

Yeah please send me the link again. I'll use yours as the basis for the other men's jump analysis if you don't mind.

 

I'll also be adding rows in the spreadsheet to see the averages in each PCS components for the 2016/2017 season soon.

[ralucutzagy]

 

[fluffypooh]

1 minute ago, ralucutzagy said:

 

this isn't the current one?

[ralucutzagy]

Just now, fluffypooh said:

this isn't the current one?

It is ..

Standings as of: 22.04.2017 (ISU)

[Fresca]

2 hours ago, ralucutzagy said:

It is ..

Standings as of: 22.04.2017 (ISU)

 

I guess they haven't updated it with any scores from the 2016-2017 season yet.

[xeyra]

2 hours ago, fluffypooh said:

this isn't the current one?

 

19 minutes ago, Fresca said:

 

I guess they haven't updated it with any scores from the 2016-2017 season yet.

 

This is the progression of highest score listing. They only list the scores that were WR, from first to current.

[Murieleirum]

That graph goes a long way to show who's been the boss for the past 5 years. hehehe. 

[Fresca]

1 hour ago, xeyra said:

 

 

This is the progression of highest score listing. They only list the scores that were WR, from first to current.

 

Ah I get it now. They need to label it that way as they don't recognize "World Record" LOL.

[CupidsBow]

On 04/06/2017 at 08:44, xeyra said:

 

Yeah please send me the link again. I'll use yours as the basis for the other men's jump analysis if you don't mind.

 

I'll also be adding rows in the spreadsheet to see the averages in each PCS components for the 2016/2017 season soon.

 

 

 

lmao i think i'm doing something similar because i got bored and the maths is very soothing
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JKEpZyL6gJen3eaO4OtJbr53f7VyTpAF0IvZkjszfhw/edit?usp=sharing

 

EDIT: this doc is now finished? ;et me know if you think i should make any corrections. feel free to use to make graphs or smth as i cannot graph and cannot be bothered