so will we get the answer by the end of the congress or will we have to wait days..? 

 

Love the Russian representative RE: connecting steps! "What is the purpose of deleting the connecting steps in the short program? As F. Bianchetti said it is difficult to distinguish this but for many years the skaters were doing this and the judges were able to distinguish this. What is the problem now? Either the skaters cannot do them or the judges cannot figure out where the steps are."

ok so the isu could buy votes since it'll be on thursday but i don't understand how any federation would agree to the proposed rules since it won't even benefit their skaters.. 

he's right, isu don't know what they're doing smh 

 

Dropping this over here too, regarding the backloading limitation.

 

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The more I look at the backloading bonus limit, the more I get annoyed.

So far whenever people talk about "balance" it's about the mathematical balance of elements, specifically jumps. But what about artistic balance, or whether or not the skating actually expresses the music? Would not musicality and expression ultimately triumph over "balance"? Should we hold "balance" above "musical artistry"?

 

Now with the caps, SP is less an issue because, well 3 jumps, not as huge a deal. But FS is...interesting. Technically most of the advanced skaters already can do 4/3 or possibly 3/4 split in the FS. And now, there is no incentive points wise, mathematically to do more or do less than that type of distribution.

 

It doesn't even have to be combo, if most skaters do //jump-jump-jump-spin-chsq-spin in the second half, music will have to be edited to work with the layout. To make the layout "artistic" enough, music editing will be more important than before to give an artistic impression. Would music choice and edits/cuts be more uniform/stale than before? Previously skaters backloaded to their limit, now everyone has the same backload options (that most are able to do anyways)-unless you decide to be extra and do things for the "sake of art."  An option few skaters can afford.

 

 

Probably a stupid question but I am a bit confused on how the GOE for combos is calculated with the new system. Before the GOE added a fixed value to the score but now it is a percentage, so how is the GOE calculated now? Is it a percentage of the combined BV of jumps in the combo or is it based on the highest BV jump?  

8 hours ago, Neenah said:

Probably a stupid question but I am a bit confused on how the GOE for combos is calculated with the new system. Before the GOE added a fixed value to the score but now it is a percentage, so how is the GOE calculated now? Is it a percentage of the combined BV of jumps in the combo or is it based on the highest BV jump?  

 

The GOE is calculated off the jump with the highest BV in the combo. So in a 4T3T combo, you calculate the GOE through the 4T's BV, not the sum of the BVs.

 

And if you do a 2A3T, you calculate it via the 3T's BV. 

9 minutes ago, xeyra said:

 

The GOE is calculated off the jump with the highest BV in the combo. So in a 4T3T combo, you calculate the GOE through the 4T's BV, not the sum of the BVs.

 

And if you do a 2A3T, you calculate it via the 3T's BV. 

Thank you, that is very helpful.

 

So that means that the GOE for a 4T3T is the same as the GOE for 4T2T right?!!

4 hours ago, Neenah said:

Thank you, that is very helpful.

 

So that means that the GOE for a 4T3T is the same as the GOE for 4T2T right?!!

 

And also if you don't really hit the 3T in a 4T3T it doesn't matter GOE wise as long as you land it? Or do they judge the combo as a whole but the marks are based off the higher value BV?

 

Me everytime that I read something reference to ISU new rules or changes

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, katonice said:

 

so apparently they liked the judging at Golden Spin pre-Olympics...