ShiroKJ Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 For up-to-date ISU communications : http://www.isu.org/en/media/isu-communications [*] Indicates communication was released within the last 14 days. 2017/18 Communications (Singles, Pair & Dance): * Decisions of the ISU Council June 2017 Amsterdam, Netherlands Communication No. 2097 : http://static.isu.org/media/525122/2097-decisions-of-the-isu-council-amsterdam.pdf Ice Dance - Scales of Values, effective July 1st 2017 Communication No. 2094 : http://static.isu.org/media/518264/2094-id-scales-of-values-2017-18.pdf Entries/Participation 2018 Olympic Winter Games (OWG) for Single & Pair Skating / Ice Dance Communication No. 2093 : http://static.isu.org/media/516026/2093-entries-2018-owg-fsid-before-qual-comp.pdf (Calendar) International Single & Pair Skating, Ice Dance and Synchronized Skating Competitions 2017/1 Communication No. 2092 : http://static.isu.org/media/515293/2092-fs-and-sys-international-comps-2017-2018.pdf Scale of Values, Levels of Difficulty and Guidelines for marking Grade of Execution, season 2017/18 (Singles/Pairs) Communication No. 2089 : http://static.isu.org/media/508716/2089 ... 017-18.pdf Ice Dance - Requirements for Technical Rules with ongoing validity, effective July 1st, 2017 Communication No. 2086 : http://static.isu.org/media/505764/2086-id-requirements-for-technical-rules-2017_18.pdf ISU Ice Dance Requirements for Technical Rules season 2017/18 (Revised) Communication No. 2076 : http://static.isu.org/media/1021/2076-i ... pril-4.pdf 2017/18 Communications (Synchronized Skating): Synchronized Skating - GOE Guidelines, Reductions & Deductions Season 2017-18 Communication No. 2095 : http://static.isu.org/media/519827/2095-sys-goe-guidelines_reduction-deductions_2017-18.pdf Synchronized Skating - Technical Requirements for Season 2017/18 Communication No. 2091 : http://static.isu.org/media/515128/2091-sys-difficulty-groups-of-elements.pdf Well Balanced Program Content 2017/18 Communication No. 2084 : http://static.isu.org/media/501069/2084 ... 017_18.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meoima Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 ISU has just released a communication 2089 for singles and pairs season 2017/2018 http://static.isu.org/media/508716/2089 ... 017-18.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamaguri Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Is there any big change or something interesting about singles with that communication 2089? Does anyone have summery or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallycinnamon Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Is there any big change or something interesting about singles with that communication 2089? Does anyone have summery or something? I try to summarize the changes for Singles rules changes (not Pairs and Ice Dance now but I might do it later if anyone is interested. There are not too many changes). All changes in the new Communication are underlined so they can be easily found in the text. I copy the changes, which are underlined: 1. Step sequence level 4 difficulty: 'Two different combinations of 3 difficult turns on different feet executed with a clear rhythm with the sequence. Only the first combination attempted on each foot can be counted.' 2. Marking +GOE: -->Jump elements: bullet 2): 'clear, recognizable (creative, interesting, original for jump preceded by steps/movements of the Short Program) steps/free skating movements immediately preceding element' 3. GOE reductions for errors: -->Jump elements: in the SP: 'Jump element not according to the requirements final GOE must be -3' -->Spins: 'unbalanced number of revolutions in change foot spin -1' 4. Program Components: 'As a guideline the score 10 should not be awarded for any of the components in a program containing a fall or serious error'. (My remark: a fall is obvious, but what does a 'serious' error mean? How will it be decided if an error was serious or not?) 5. Step Sequence pattern: 'It must be visible and identifiable and should be performed by using almost the full ice surface (e.g. straight line, serpentine, circle, oval or similar shape)' The following has been removed: either in it’s length from short barrier to short barrier or twice in its width from long barrier to long barrier 6. SOV: Spin with one change of foot and no change of position V column added (not sure why it was not regulated last season? Some please help me out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kora Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Step sequence pattern: It must be visible and identifiable and should be performed by using almost the full ice surface (e.g. straight line, serpentine, circle, oval or similar shape) Removed either in it’s length from short barrier to short barrier or twice in its width from long barrier to long barrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeyra Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 18 hours ago, sublimeskating said: so what are the implications of these changes? (sorry, i'm not familiar with the technicalities of the isu rules/judging) are these good or bad changes? more potential for fairer judging or more potential for bias? It makes things less clear, to be honest. Take for example the following rule changes: Quote 2. Marking +GOE: -->Jump elements: bullet 2): 'clear, recognizable (creative, interesting, original for jump preceded by steps/movements of the Short Program) steps/free skating movements immediately preceding element' Who exactly defines what accounts for creative, interesting, original steps/movements for the SP solo jump? At least back when it said 'difficult steps/skating movements' you had a defined list of what was considered difficult steps/transitions. This GOE bullet also seems to now be confused even further with GOE bullet 1) unexpected / creative / difficult entry. Quote 3. GOE reductions for errors: -->Jump elements: in the SP: 'Jump element not according to the requirements final GOE must be -3' -->Spins: 'unbalanced number of revolutions in change foot spin -1' The first one relates to the item above. Will a jump which judges consider not meeting the creative, interesting, original steps/free skating movements before SP solo jump count as 'Jump element not according to the requirements' and thus the final GOE must be -3? But then they changed the wording of what is needed for the SP solo jump requirements, so now we don't know if someone doing, say, some nice arms movements, automatically meets the criteria, since it's VAGUE AF. At this point, I'm not sure if we'll be seeing less negative GOE on SP solo jumps or more. Quote 4. Program Components: 'As a guideline the score 10 should not be awarded for any of the components in a program containing a fall or serious error'. More vagueness. What is a serious error? Also, this will actually hit the veterans (Javi, Patrick, Yuzu) more than the youngsters, since they're the only ones currently getting 10s. If they no longer can get 10s in component scores because of a non-defined 'serious error' (not even in music interpretation!!!???), it may lower the difference in PCS between them and the 'kids' even further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiroKJ Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 Updated communications No. 2092 and No. 2093. Entries/Participation for 2018 Olympic Winter Games (Single/Pairs/Ice Dance) Ladies Spoiler Country 2017 World Placement - Points Earned # of OWG Entries RUS 1+8 = 9 3 CAN 2+3 = 5 3 USA 4+7 = 11 3 JPN 5+11 = 16 2 ITA 6 = 6 2 KAZ 9 = 9 2 KOR 10 = 10 2 CHN 14+21* = 30 1 BEL 15 = 15 1 SVK 17* = 16 1 FRA 18* = 16 1 GER 19* = 16 1 HUN 20* = 16 1 LAT 22* = 16 1 Total spots = 24 Maximum Entries = 30 Spots to be earned at Nebelhorn : 6 Men Spoiler Country 2017 World Placement - Points Earned # of OWG Entries JPN 1+2 = 3 3 CHN 3 = 3 2 ESP 4+18 = 22 2 CAN 5+9 = 14 2 USA 6+7 = 13 3 RUS 8+11 = 19 2 ISR 10 = 10 2 UZB 12 = 12 1 GEO 13 = 13 1 LAT 14 = 14 1 AUS 15 = 15 1 KAZ 16 = 16 1 FRA 17* = 16 1 CZE 18* = 16 1 GER 20* = 16 1 Total spots = 24 Maximum Entries = 30 Spots to be earned at Nebelhorn : 6 Pairs Spoiler Country 2017 World Placement - Points Earned # of OWG Entries CHN 1+4 = 5 3 GER 2+19* = 20 2 RUS 3+5 = 8 3 CAN 6+7 = 13 3 FRA 8+27* = 26 2 ITA 9+13 = 22 2 USA 10 +20** = 28 1 Total spots = 16 Maximum Entries = 20 Spots to be earned at Nebelhorn : 4 Ice Dance Spoiler Country 2017 World Placement - Points Earned # of OWG Entries CAN 1+4 = 5 3 FRA 2+21* = 20 2 USA 3+7 = 10 3 RUS 5+10 = 15 2 ITA 6+11 = 17 2 ISR 12 = 12 1 DEN 13 = 13 1 POL 14 = 14 1 UKR 15 = 15 1 CHN 16 = 16 1 TUR 17* = 16 1 ESP 18* = 16 1 Total spots = 19 Maximum Entries = 24 Spots to be earned at Nebelhorn : 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 what will Kazakhstan do with their two placements with ladies, I wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiroKJ Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Fay said: what will Kazakhstan do with their two placements with ladies, I wonder... The only other Kazakhstan lady I remember seeing was in JGP....don't even remember if shes age eligible for Sr. let alone able to get the min TES.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzuangel Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 hour ago, ShiroKJ said: The only other Kazakhstan lady I remember seeing was in JGP....don't even remember if shes age eligible for Sr. let alone able to get the min TES.. There's this lady, who has a great shot of going to the Olympics (thanks to Elizabet) if she can get the minimum TES. I find it funny she has a Japanese wikipedia page but no English one. Her TES at AWG was 26.95 + 39.65 which doesn't quite cut it but...we'll see, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiroKJ Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 ISU News: Challenger Series Announcement http://static.isu.org/media/520340/cs2017-18_announcement-final.pdf Challenger Series (10) US International FS (Sept 13-17) Lombardia Trophy (Sept 14-17) Autumn Classic International (Sept 20-23) Ondrej Nepela Trophy (Sept 21-23) Nebelhorn Trophy(Sept 27-30) Finlandia Trophy (Oct 6-8) Minsk-Arena Ice Star (Oct 26-29) Warsaw Cup (Nov 16-19) Tallinn Trophy (Nov 21-26) Golden Spin of Zagreb (Dec 6-9) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dara Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 25.05.2017 at 05:37, yuzuangel said: There's this lady, who has a great shot of going to the Olympics (thanks to Elizabet) if she can get the minimum TES. I find it funny she has a Japanese wikipedia page but no English one. Her TES at AWG was 26.95 + 39.65 which doesn't quite cut it but...we'll see, haha. Elizabet's Mum wrote immediately after Worlds "Aiza, Elizabet got another Olympics berth as a present for you", and Aiza replied "Thanks, Auntie". I really like the girl, and it seems she's doing her best to be able to get that minimum TES. She really got into shape now comparing with last couple of years, and was at Mishin Camp in May. That's her instagram btw https://www.instagram.com/aiza_imambek/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzuangel Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, Dara said: Elizabet's Mum wrote immediately after Worlds "Aiza, Elizabet got another Olympics berth as a present for you", and Aiza replied "Thanks, Auntie". I really like the girl, and it seems she's doing her best to be able to get that minimum TES. She really got into shape now comparing with last couple of years, and was at Mishin Camp in May. That's her instagram btw https://www.instagram.com/aiza_imambek/ Elizabet's mom hahahha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralucutzagy Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, yuzuangel said: Elizabet's mom hahahha Brian looked so embarrassed at worlds when she reacted in that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallycinnamon Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, ralucutzagy said: Brian looked so embarrassed at worlds when she reacted in that way I don't know who was more embarrassed, Brian or Lilbet Anyway, I hope that Mambekova gets her TES minimum, I'd like to see her at the Olympic Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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