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[Guest Mary_kyo]

Oh so he is not planning to add 4Lo or 4Lz. Well, considering how Nathan’s jumps are scored and his unrealistic high PCS, I doubt Yuzu has a high chance of winning with this layout. Also realistically, I don’t think 4A will be ready in a month. But at the same time, I wasn’t expecting him to stay on his feet for the 4A in nationals FS too. I wonder what universe has in store for him.

 

If he changed 4A to 4Lo and 4Lz, he had a chance to win even with the scoring corruption but well, 4A is what he has bet his life on it. So who am I to judge this decision.

 

My prediction is that Nathan will ditch 4Lo as he was never good with that jump and he rotates it only using his physical power with no subtle technique. Nathan is already struggling with his other jumps but is obviously switching between his old empty programs to try to find the one which gives him the most consistency. Unfortunately, Nathan’s 5 quads layout with his both super empty recycled programs automatically get the high PCS he never deserved. So Yuzu can compete with Nathan only if he goes for 5 very stable perfect quads while doing his insanely packed programs. Anyway, I have no hopes for Beijing but I pray to see Yuzu’s perfect 4A at least once in any remaining competitions. That will go down in history with much more impact than Nathan’s gold in Beijing. If you ask me Nathan has already gone down in FS history as a controversial skater (or more precisely a jumper) with questionable scores and no PR or medals will ever change his tainted reputation sadly.

[SuzyQ]

Year, I slightly remember this.  As I knew a real manga boy, I could not or cannot seriously watch a skater drama 

 

"In the drama titled "Doctor X", the patient was a skater of 27 years old, who was a 4A jumper.

It sounded as a ridiculous setting at that time, because of his age, and 4A!!  Watched the drama giggling. 

Well, is the scriptwriter a person who can see the future, or something? "

 

 

[lynnidolz]

6 minutes ago, Mary_kyo said:

Oh so he is not planning to add 4Lo or 4Lz. Well, considering how Nathan’s jumps are scored and his unrealistic high PCS, I doubt Yuzu has a high chance of winning with this layout. Also realistically, I don’t think 4A will be ready in a month. But at the same time, I wasn’t expecting him to stay on his feet for the 4A in nationals FS too. I wonder what universe has in store for him.

 

If he changed 4A to 4Lo and 4Lz, he had a chance to win even with the scoring corruption but well, 4A is what he has bet his life on it. So who am I to judge this decision.

 

My prediction is that Nathan will ditch 4Lo as he was never good with that jump and he rotates it only using his physical power with no subtle technique. Nathan is already struggling with his other jumps but is obviously switching between his old empty programs to try to find the one which gives him the most consistency. Unfortunately, Nathan’s 5 quads layout with his both super empty recycled programs automatically get the high PCS he never deserved. So Yuzu can compete with Nathan only if he goes for 5 very stable perfect quads while doing his insanely packed programs. Anyway, I have no hopes for Beijing but I pray to see Yuzu’s perfect 4A at least once in any remaining competitions. That will go down in history with much more impact than Nathan’s gold in Beijing. If you ask me Nathan has already gone down in FS history as a controversial skater (or more precisely a jumper) with questionable scores and no PR or medals will ever change his tainted reputation sadly.

I think he means to do 4A together with 4lo/4lz is impossible.Doing 4A alone is demanding enough stamina wise.So if he is doing 4A he will stick with the current layout i think and if by Olympic the 4A is still not ready maybe he will evaluates back by adding 4lo or 4lz? Who knows what his plan ultimately..If his still want to win the gold medal maybe he will change his minds?He still can try to land 4A in Worlds or season after the Olympic because based on the the interview he will not retire anytime soon

[Guest Mary_kyo]

11 minutes ago, lynnidolz said:

I think he means to do 4A together with 4lo/4lz is impossible.Doing 4A alone is demanding enough stamina wise.So if he is doing 4A he will stick with the current layout i think and if by Olympic the 4A is still not ready maybe he will evaluates back by adding 4lo or 4lz? Who knows what his plan ultimately..If his still want to win the gold medal maybe he will change his minds?He still can try to land 4A in Worlds or season after the Olympic because based on the the interview he will not retire anytime soon

hmmmm yes, you are right. He probably won't reveal his strategies for winning on national TV. Also I have this feeling that his 4A is actually more progressed than his current attempts. If I understood correctly he had only 2 weeks of preparation for nationals and he did wonderfully (there was a single Japanese tweet that said he skated on painkillers too but only rumor, I don't read too much into that). I have no doubt that perfect 4A will happen in 2022 but doing that in Olympics is a little insane to me. To me, 4A can happen in worlds perfectly but really who knows Yuzu's real condition and what he is planning.

[Yuzuwinnie]

13 hours ago, Yuzu Beloved Angel said:

                                                         Congratulations Yuzu !! Arigato! You were wonderful. 

 

  the fanyus: you may be wondering, why I have not yet written any comments, I explain: yesterday I was not at home and I returned around 6:30 p.m. or 6:30 PM, I made myself a quick meal tray (and luckily ...) and I open my computer and I see more than 180 YES posts from all of you, between the nationals and here and, therefore, I had to decrypt / translate / read everything your writings and it took me A LOT of time to put "likes" and it was worth it in front of this wonderful performance of Yuzu (which I savored on the video section)   and his 4A and I was   and I  had written a text and I couldn't get it translated !? and therefore also ARIGATO and another Mr   and I saw that he collapsed on a wall in post performance and I understand it, it was the nerves that let go and then, I saw that he was better when he joked with Shoma (the height jump  ) and Yuma and his selection in the Olympic team   and earlier in my break from work 35 posts eh YES, he is acclaimed everywhere and he deserves so much for having worked so hard and he spent this Christmas in his favorite element: the ice cream and I will still savor the gala   : ahhhhh how many emotions he gives us   and he will have a good January 1st relaxed with his family and friends   

[ralucutzagy]

 

 

[Yuzurella]

13 hours ago, hananistellata said:

Aaaahhh, I miss old man Pooh san. I'm sure he was clapping his lil paws from home while watching Yuzu skate.

 

I think old man Pooh is enjoying his well deserved retirement. He went through so much together with Yuzu. He's definitely cheering Yuzu from the comfort of his honorary spot in Yuzu's home.

[SuzyQ]

Photos:

 

https://thedigestweb.com/photo/detail/id=50705&repeatCnt=6

 

This post has been tagged by yuzuangel as [NEWS].

[Yuzurella]

 

Could a Japanese speaker please kindly translate what Lemy-chan and Haru-chan are saying? Thank you!

And Roncapu-chan taking flight in the background. So cute!

[liv]

He says in order to win Olys he has to land 4A (and the rest, obviously)... I remember saying that exact same thing last year. With clean skates by Nathan, with all the candies he gets for what he does, yuzu has to set himself apart with jumps because the other parts of his skating no longer give him the advantage.  Now he's vocalizing what he's probably known all along but didn't want to say in public, and because it's now possible he could do it, he's facing the challenge... and basically telling the judges he should win if he lands it, lol!! Love the moxie. 

 

Remarkable pressure he puts on himself, but also strategic. Never underestimate Mr. Hanyu. 

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17 hours ago, turquoiseblue said:

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6 hours ago, turquoiseblue said:

This translation by Olympic Channel might not be accurate:

 

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The translation by Olympic Channel has been edited now 

 

 

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[jier]

51分钟前, liv说:

He says in order to win Olys he has to land 4A (and the rest, obviously)... I remember saying that exact same thing last year. With clean skates by Nathan, with all the candies he gets for what he does, yuzu has to set himself apart with jumps because the other parts of his skating no longer give him the advantage.  Now he's vocalizing what he's probably known all along but didn't want to say in public, and because it's now possible he could do it, he's facing the challenge... and basically telling the judges he should win if he lands it, lol!! Love the moxie. 

 

Remarkable pressure he puts on himself, but also strategic. Never underestimate Mr. Hanyu. 

I have thought about his "he needs 4A to win an Olympics" for all day. I can understand it from the point that he has an emotional attachment to 4A, if not for 4A, there will not be this Olympics for him. By saying "he needs 4A to win an Olympics", he links his motivation to win BJ Olympics (which did not exist before) attached to his strongest motivation 4A. And 4A could bring higher marks if it is done (though 12.5 BV is inhumanly low) , so it can realize his belief that he can win if he is clean no matter what other skaters do. But it seems very risky, no 4A, no OGM, if these two are attached. How realistic a GOE+ 4A can be ready in just one month, I highly doubt it. I do hope Yuzu has back-up plans, in case 4A does not come in shape before it is due. I am worried, because I really don't want to see him Kuyashi after Olympics. But I think I just need to be relaxed by simply supporting him for his intuition, his choice and accepting whatever results along with him. 

[makebelieveup]

Someone on twitter pointed out that Yuzu shouldnt have given judges an escape plan by saying he has to land a 4a to win. I actually agree with this. Yuzu shouldnt be giving himself this pressure for no reason. altho i doubt judges care to go read his interviews. I find that this more so would apply to anti fans. they would def use this against him. but oh well haters gonna hate. and life works in mysterious way for Yuzu so I guess I should just trust him that he can do it. I admit I thought he would pop or fall on the 4a underrotated but he stayed on his feet.

 

but yeah I find it so amusing how japanese interviewers (and im sure they had better intentions) were so quick to make Yuzu point out he had an underrotated and 2 foot 4a landing after his practice. Like come on, do you really have to ask him to confirm this? Why are you always making him confirm himself so judges would have reasons to call them? not that i want judges to be corrupted but the point is the culture of self criticsm is beyond me. It reminds me of one of the interviews post world championship 2019 where they showed him his protocol against nathan's. 

 

re: oympic -- Personally, I wouldnt rely on Nathan to bomb anything or not to get candies. He did only lose once over the past 4 seasons. But I also do not think adding quads would help Yuzu either considering his past few seasons. I think the best strategy for Yuzu is a cross between doing what he really wants to do the most (incorporating 4a) and what he does best (focus on the qualitity and jumping the jumps he can realistically do without killing his stamina).

 

We have to still remember as solid as his form seemed to be at nationals, he is prone to injury any moment. To add quad lutz or quad loop is not realistic given he only has 1 month left to land his 4a. 

 

I think even a month isnt enough to land a ratified 4a. (tbh i wish he ditches it and goes for it at worlds but Yuzu is Yuzu)

 

4a (2 ft and ur) is the most realistic we can hope atm 

4s stable jump so no reason to ditch it

3a3loop (i think this is the most reasonable new jump to add since it doesnt disrupt the flow. he just have to take his time)

3lutz\3flip - cant imagine this would be harder than a 4a so why not add them of this is the best bet to up the bv

4t eu 3 sal or 3 flip (if he goes for 3 lz then he has another opportunity here to include 3flip)

4t3t

3a (or switch this with 3a3loop for 2nd half bonus)

 

At this point I think Ive already accepted the possibility that even if both skate clean, Yuzu with this layout will not win if Nathan skates clean with 5 or 6 quads. But I hope a part of Yuzu will still feel the victory of landing a ratified 4a at the olympic. And I think fandom will know who is the winner.