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  1. makebelieveup

    [2019] World Championships - Men Free Skating

    The fact that Yuzu looked totally 100% in his own world doing H&L after placing 5th is more impressive to me. Im so defensive when it comes to my baby HL..dont mind me lol
  2. makebelieveup

    [2019] World Championships - Men Free Skating

    at least you know!!! H&L is everything!!! how dare youu
  3. makebelieveup

    General Yuzuru Chat

    @micaelis Happy birthday! Wish you stay healthy and happy as a fanyu! the fact that Yuzu has such a wide demography of fans makes me happy. --- I have been traumatized by world19 so much I am actually happy to know it is officially over. Warning: pessimistic rant ahead I spent four months waiting every single day just to see him compete again. I already had a bad feeling about this competition compared to PC because of many reasons: 1) people no longer dropped expectation for him because of what they witnessed 2) he didnt have any muscle memory of the programs like seimei/chopin or clean skates to rely on 3) he had no competiton experience for over 4 months 4) he got really fired up when he was back unlike at PC where he was a lot calmer 5) skating at home has more pressure on him bc he knew people expected him to get home inflation. But I still waited and waited because I believed. I know he doesn't always win and I know he doesn't have to but the way this competition played out just crashed over me like a huge wave. Regardless, I know the person who experiences the most pain is Yuzu himself. I am looking ahead to see many more competition from Yuzu and really hope he can skate two clean programs at WTT if he chooses to go. I know that would be his hope to end this season with a smile if he could get two world records back. One side of me is amazed that it seems like Yuzu is subconciously entering that era after Olympic again where he is a step toward his next gold medal. To see how his fire to reach the top has been rekindled by one "failure" is both inspirational and terrifying. It's inspirational because after what he has achieved, he still believes he can do more to achieve his next happiness. How many skater you can name is actually that self awareness about themselves? Even if they say they need to improve, do their performance really reflect that? I do have this gut feeling that he is thinking about Beijing. I didnt get this feeling before but from the things he said in post world interviews, with what he wants to achieve, it might take another 3 seasons to fulfill. It's terrifying because the road he has chosen ahead of him is now beyond difficult for what his own mind or body can bear. We are now entering a phase where a perfect Yuzuru can be beaten through corruption. He is not getting younger and cannot afford to test new jumps. The thing with Yuzu is he can't afford mistakes like other top skaters because the sport doesnt put him on the same standard. He needs to test new jumps in competitions but that would mean he has a high possibility of losing the comp and at this point in his career, losing a competition would affect his rep, which subsequentially, would affect his scores. Younger skaters can afford the trial and error process when trying to up their tech and is actually rewarded because they are seen as potential future stars. But with Yuzu, his default standard is gold. He needs to go through the process of trial and error very strategically to get both the success of the jumps to avoid injuring himself and sitting out for the rest of the season and to win. It's also terrifying because some of his responses sound like he is writing off all of his achievements. I am bitter by the fact that he is seeing his loss as a lack of ability/acknowledging other skaters as if the results reflect a true meaning to his and their skatings. Yes, I know Yuzu is someone who has a special way of thinking and that is what I love him for, but I still can't help but feel extremely bitter about this. To me, he was the clear winner of the free and his loss was out of his control. What is also more terrifying is at this point in his career, his scores are pretty much capped and his achievements didnt help one bit. It took him 5 years and 2 gold medals to actually get his scores, and yet he is still put in a situation by the judges to be challenged. It's like they dont know what to do with Yuzu anymore since he hasnt declared his direction so it is unclear how much longer he will compete. Why keep crowning the current king when he is going to leave the sport soon. Why not crown a new king to reign him until the next olympic? I want to ask Yuzu a rhetorical question, is it worth it? Is it worth risking your body, emotion, and energy to try to be beyond the corruption of this sport? While I will never define him by the results and scores alone and no matter what placement he gets he is still the best skater of all time to me, I know he cares! And I care that he cares. I feel really helpless thinking how no matter how much we voice it out it isn't changing anything. But Yuzu needs our support and if that is the one thing we can do for him I am giving him my all.
  4. makebelieveup

    [2019] World Championships - Men Free Skating

    I think he thought his rep would have given him that score since he landed 4 quads and 2 3as. Yeah they werent perfect landings but bv wise its close to what he did at helsinki 2017, which he went over 220..So he thought as long as he landed his jumps he would get somewhat around that with a bit of generous scoring. But yeah like you already said he's felt as tho hes done enough to make up the deficit. im sure he knew if nathan skated clean he wouldnt win but a win in the free would have been somewhat a consolation. But he didnt. he lost the free, lost his records. and yeah i noticed and i felt like i dont have the heart to stomach any of this. I just hope he doesnt beat himself to death over this loss. Its traumatizing to me the fact he lost the free with a skate like this to nathan's.
  5. makebelieveup

    [2019] World Championships - Men Free Skating

    Yuzu was relieved and happy after he skated origin bc he thought he would get around 220 (given his rep) for a somewhat clean perf like back then. but he saw the scores and realized what he did and his expression changed. He was crushed all over. I dont know why people said he was happy. Losing is like death to him so I dont think his achievements today meant much to him. He even said breaking 300 by just a little is pretty much meaningless. I also think he finally confirmed in his heart where things stand at this point so it made him doubt himself. he really doubted he would have won with two clean programs after that. Yuzu wouldnt go into a comp if he hadnt aimed for gold so prior to today, he def knew he could win if he was clean.
  6. makebelieveup

    [2019] World Championships - Men Free Skating

    With how fs has "progressed" its impossible to say who will still be in the running by then. Looking at Shoma, he's been falling apart now and I cant imagine if he could keep up with the younger guys by 2022. Same with Boyang. Realistically, among the guys with 4 quads only Nathan has the highest chance to podium. He has fed power, his consistencies in jumps, his titles and records. But by 2022 who knows what could happen. Gogolev would be doing 5 quads too. But why dont you think they have a great shot? --- anyone think Yuzu will go to WTT? brian said lets stay in touch. I felt like maybe Yuzu is planning to stay in Japan for a while for it? I really hope he skates two perfect programs for this season and ditch it. I dont want anymore weir or plush tributes. give me new programs for himself please. i dont even care if nathan is coming or not now like whatever i just need yuzu to skate well and be happy with his perf
  7. makebelieveup

    [2019] World Championships - Men Free Skating

    You know I actually start to think this could be easily one of the most painful competitions for Yuzu. And sure I know nothing about how he feels. I just am observing from an outsider trying to put myself in his shoes. You were back this season after a rollercoaster olympic season. you broke records, was unbeatable, and then you got reinjured that kept you out of comp for 4 months. Yuzu literally gifted a national and grand prix final titles at this point bc he was doing so well. And you came back thinking you've done enough to still get enough cushion over other skaters. You skate at your home country at the biggest comp with the biggest pressure. You gave everything from passion to body risk to deliever two great perfs only to get silver in the end. And worst of all you realized that you being an olympic champ means nothing to the judges or actually has done you a disadvantage. In the past he lost to Javi twice but I couldnt see it as painful as this time. Javi was never seen as his ultimate rival in terms of scoring potential/ceiling. Yuzu was still regarded as number one throughout those seasons. Until Nathan came along and fortunately enough didnt do enough to beat Yuzu at Olympics. But here he is back and is as loved as ever by judges. The way they tried to level out the scoring once Yuzu broke the system was unreal. It is as if seimei was anywhere touchable in terms of artistry and technical excellence. I do see them going for the next Nathan like Vincent but only if Nathan falter due to inconsistencies for two straight seasons. But Vincent's UR is too known that it might need a couple of seasons for them to slowly bury it. But I already see Gogolev and Grassl as the two next gold contenders for Beijing and maybe some new faces from Russia.
  8. makebelieveup

    [2019] World Championships - Men Free Skating

    I'd really love to read a translation of this! ill try google for now
  9. makebelieveup

    [2019] World Championships - Men Free Skating

    Plushenko did say in an indirect way that there are skaters who have good jumps but their skating isnt enough to draw us in..Like their spins or choreography isnt enough unlike Yuzu who is the total package. And a lot of other people like TAT who admits his artistry is undefeated. But you know these people don't really advocate for a change in the system and their words like these alone don't do much for Yuzu's scores. I feel defeated.
  10. makebelieveup

    [2019] World Championships - Men Free Skating

    Brb, i need to cry. He really looked defeated after the free when he saw his scores. I feel the need to send him virtual hugs.
  11. makebelieveup

    [2019] World Championships - Men Free Skating

    The fact that they make Chen a 95 pcs skater is a joke that will never be funny to me. But its the reality and I think Yuzu can only find a way to combat it, which is still sad. Well a perfect Yuzu is still a 98-99 pcs skater internationally last couple seasons so at the mercy of the judges he could win. Idk why im even discussing too much about this, its like beating a dead horse by now.
  12. makebelieveup

    [2019] World Championships - Men Free Skating

    It's really sad and I have been depressed by the fact that here you have a figure skater with the biggest skating acredential, putting himself out there to be vulnerable to your stupid scoring, and you have zero sympathy. There is scoring standard for the rest and there is scoring standard for Yuzuru Hanyu. Like Yuzu is actually thinking that a perfect yuzu is beatable at this point (which I know at least for now is not true even with his current bv). Like judges have finally done enough to push him to believe this crazy idea, push him to think what he has been doing is not enough to cover the gap. The way he has been scored unfairly for so long has really gotten to his brain as if they are normal. Then what is the point for being a 2x olympic champion when it's actually doing him a disservice? So now he no longer has any room for error and feels he needs to do two clean programs in order to win. So he will be thinking of doing more dangerous things like adding the axel, flip and lutz. We all know he needs to do them in his fashion to be above the judging, meaning he needs to complete them with correct technique and positive GOEs. In addition, it is about self fulfillment. Yuzu has always been a perfectionist and his harshest judge so he knows he needs to do them the right way. I just feel so sad thinking about these things that make Yuzu lose his confidence in himself. Like I just want to let him know he doesnt need to prove himself anymore and that he is already a gift to this skating world.
  13. makebelieveup

    [2019] World Championships - Men Free Skating

    Not at this point if Yuzu were to be clean all the time but as Yuzu gets more older and more susceptible to injury, it is going to be mighty hard for him to skate two clean programs again and up his tech regardless of his desire. As much as we would love Yuzu to keep this fire going in order to "keep up" with the running, he is a human and is bound have limits. Also, when judges are this corrupted, you can only do so much to be above the their judging. With Nathan's 2nd world title and an undefeated season, fed power, media hype about his elite school rep, and two new world records in hand, they will try to make him untouchable like how yuzu was in 2015 gpf. And none of this is to downgrade Nathan as an athlete or person or to fault him, its just the way I see ISU's agenda.
  14. makebelieveup

    [2019] World Championships - Men Free Skating

    A perfect Yuzu in the short could really have garnered 111 pts with this kind of scoring (113pts at a slightly fairer scoring competition). He lost a couple PCS due to the popped sal (which i have no idea why TES ties with PCS but yeah its how the scoring system game works) and he lost at least 14 points for the sal. So if you add 94 + 14pts + 2-3 PCS = 111pts. In the free, he could have earned 220+ pts at the mercy of the judges on the goes and PCS. But for this comp, i'd say around 217 pts. So yes he would have won if he didnt ur his Sal. A couple more PCS when judges think its clean and more generous GOEs. To be fair, Yuzu was not at his very best here in the free. He wasnt Helsinki 2017 perfect, so I can't say he would have gotten over 220+ for a clean skate, although Helsinki 2017 was underscored as well. Some of his movements were not as sharp as cor and he was very cautious in conserving his energy for the jumps. So I would not have been upset if he got 217 pts for an entirely clean skate. If he were to be perfect, I'd say he'd deserve 225pts. But you see all of this is pretty much considered from ISU scoring perspective. It's normalization of the way he was scored in the past. im gonna be honest and say I personally find his free program is still miles ahead of any other skater's in terms of artistry, complexity, originality, and choreographically. So yes, if everything was scored fairly, with mistakes he should have still won. Perhaps he made some costly TES errors but his PCS, from how I see it, were never really affected by the mistakes and the performances as a whole are still a thing of beauty. The others should not deserve PCS and GOEs anywhere close to his. It's sad that we are actually even wondering about the possibility of whether he would beat Chen with a close BV layout because in a fair scoring world, it shouldnt have been a comparison.
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