General Yuzuru Chat

[EternalSpin]

2 hours ago, yuzuangel said:

do we get to 6000 pages first or 6000 members?

 

1 hour ago, FlyingCamel said:

I think pages haha, there are 5594 members and 5983 pages now

And I think members, only five left, come on

[EisElle]

8 hours ago, monchan said:

No peace even during social isolation:(((

I'm especially disappointed that some fans would accept content from questionable sources (and gained with questionable behaviour, when not straigh out illicit) even if just to say "ah, he's alive".

Like, we don't need to have a tabloid tell us he's alive, or show us the proof. We know he is. And we know he doesn't want to give further details, as it's in his rights. His life and the lives of his family do not belong to anyone but themselves. It's so disappointing when people who call themselves fan fall in the trap of "new content at all costs". Nope. If Zu wanna give us the Worst Drought Ever, we complain and bemoan the adverse fate and joke and wonder what he's doing, but we do respect his choice.

 

 

6 hours ago, Paskud said:

more translations from Kikuchi's book

https://yuzusorbet.tumblr.com/post/628799858554322944/continuing-kikuchi-sans-book-strongly

https://yuzusorbet.tumblr.com/post/629132958559879168/continuing-kikuchi-sans-book-strongly

https://yuzusorbet.tumblr.com/post/629240206762115072/continuing-kikuchi-sans-book-strongly

yay!!!

gosh the Sochi part is both kind of hilarious (in hindsight) and heartbreaking and moving:

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when I made the warm-up plan for Sochi, I used Patrick Chan’s methods as reference, but it was totally not suitable for Yuzuru.  Before official practice, he tried the warm-up programme that I had planned, and he became short of breath.  The reason is simple: there was too big a difference in stamina between Patrick Chan and Yuzuru at that time.  I realised that the warm-up which was effective for Patrick who was full of stamina, could not be used at all by Yuzuru.

poor boy and poor Kikuchi, I can imagine how bad he felt for that mistake

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To buy the tape, I ran around the streets of Sochi.  I was looking for medical shops or sports shops but the signs were all in Russian and could not be quickly understood.  I went into shops that looked like they would sell tape but I could not convey “please give me sports tape”.   I used English and gestures, and somehow managed to buy some tape, but still the amount was not enough.

That kind of farce probably reached the ears of the Japan Skate Federation people.  "We will get the tape, so (you can focus on) supporting the athlete please.“

I should have discussed with JSF staff right from the start.  I was too anxious and totally unable to see what was around me.

 

poor Kikuchi x2

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An important duty of the trainer is to get the skater’s mental state ready. However, at Sochi, I kept disturbing Yuzuru’s state of mind.

 poor Kikuchi x3

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 Before that, taping was needed, so I would have to go to Yuzuru’s room at 7.30am.

However, Yuzuru’s performance for the SP was too perfect and when I thought about the FS coming up, my heart started pounding…..  I could neither sit nor stand, and in the end, I left my room.  I reached Yuzuru’s room 40 minutes ahead of time.

"Oh~, sensei, what’s the matter?  You’re very early,” he said.

“I want to do a good job (with the taping) so I came over earlier,”

 

LOL I'm sorry this shouldn't be funny but kinda is. Or more like tragicomic

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His trainer who was supposed to be his ally, was actively being an obstacle to his efforts.  I do not think that my actions gave him any good influence at all.  In any case, my self at Sochi Olympics had lost all common sense.

nooooo poor man

I imagine how much he was beating himself, since Yuzuru had got so few hours of rest

Poor man, though, being suddenly thrown in such a new experience, abroad... it mus thave felt so overhelming... and yet he did it and then he's been by Yuzu's side for so long, travelling abroad and taking care of him   thinking about his attendance at olyimpic closing ceremony: Kikuchi too deserved to bask in the full olympic experience. So well deserved

I miss Kikuchi san, but i'm happy that now he can enjoy a quieter life at home. I hope he's taking care and maybe having a chat with Yuzu sometimes (of course staying safe and healthy).

 

also:

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Later, one section of the media started to call me names like “dubious therapist” and “chakra hermit/wizard”.  There was also a rumour that “Hanyu-senshu has been brainwashed”.  But I did not mind at all.  I really am a strange old uncle.  It’s fine.

poor man, knowing he was being painted like some suspicious fellow by media...

 

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before the Olympics, 'okachan’ (wife) had said, “Going around the world is one of otosan’s dreams, just go if you want to,” and sent me off,  I think it was hard on the household budget.  After the Olympics is over, this role as Yuzuru’s trainer will end and I will treasure the time I have with okachan, that was how I thought.

this is so precious

 

last quote, I promise:

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For example, in the Sendai dialect, there is a word “izui” 「イズイ」.   It means “doesn’t fit / doesn’t feel right” or “a discomfort somewhere”  or “not smooth”.  Sports competitors will not be satisfied with just having no pain;  they will say, “But it’s still 'izui’.”  And they leave my clinic with an 'izui face’.

 

Didn't Yuzuru himself use this exact word once?

wondering what an izui face would like

maybe this whole range?

 

 

2 hours ago, yuzuangel said:

do we get to 6000 pages first or 6000 members?

imagine if the 6000th member posted on the 6000th page?

that would be truly GOAT stuff, like zuzu getting the 1000th winter OGM!

 

an aside: I found out that searching 1000th oly gold I get loads of articles about USA getting their 1000th gold in Rio, and nothing about the 1000th OGM in the history of Winter olys (ok, 1 result, ironically by NBColy, in seocnd page of search results). Like, ok, usually Summer olys get more hype, but my petty fanyu ass is side-eyeing media so hard

 

 

2 hours ago, FlyingCamel said:

Kind of guessed that he’s a Yuzu fan, from the way he has a highlight on his Insta page just for a picture with Yuzuru haha

he certainly is, and a very famous one (or infamous, depending on who you ask). And he has been a fan since before it was cool to gush about him, and keeps being a fan even if now it's cool to gush about someone else.

though

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Be aware tho that he had some questionable takes in other matters, like selectively calling out Alysa's poor technique but not Anna's or other from Eteri's camp, and just as recently as a few days ago some stuff about cartwheels not belonging to FS

(I actually don't really disagree on this,on the ice I wanna see blades being used. But if done with purpose, fitting the theme like for Zhenya's FS, and well executed like it looks Rika's gonna be, I'm fine with that, as long as there's also going to be actual blade work somewhere in the chsq).

Also, I'm pretty sure some ID stans would be horrified knowing he roots for C/B so much LOL  (not being mean, I like C/B too)

I wasn't exactly watching all his commantaries when he worked with Angeo Dolfini for EurosportItalia (since I didn't have the subscription) and now I merely occasionally retweet stuff when it lands on my TL, so I mostly know his Yuzu-related stuff and in the twitterverse now I often get only the reactions to his words, not his words themselves (though I remember form his podcasts some thing that in hindsight made me cringe a bit).

I'm saying this so you have the whole picture.

I want to add that, while for sure the attention he got through talking about Yuzu is always good for business (especially now that ESPita doesn't have the rights for FS anymore), I do believe he's sincere about his praises for Yuzuru and tha the truly respects him a lot, as athlete and as a person. And I do think he's more knowledgeable than many (most FS commentators and journalists for sure).

I loved listening to his podcasts because of the very..."colourful" way he talked, that made everything sound interesting and exciting and also easy to get. I also liked that he and Angelo were among the few who openly called out questionable technique and who openly spoke about the politicking in the sport

And his and Angelo Dolfini's commentaries of Yuzuru's skates are legendary

 

Also.... we owe the name of our forum to one of Max's famous quotes

 

[FlyingCamel]

9 minutes ago, EternalSpin said:

 

And I think members, only five left, come on

Isn’t it 405 members left? 
 

6 minutes ago, LadyLou said:

he certainly is, and a very famous one (or infamous, depending on who you ask). And he has been a fan since before it was cool to gush about him, and keeps being a fan even if now it's cool to gush about someone else.

though

I meant Daniel haha 🙈

[Geo1]

We will reach 6000 pages before we get 6000 members.

 

We are at 5983 pages so we only need 17 more pages to reach 6000 pages.

 

We currently have 5595 members and still need 405 more in order to reach 6000 members.

 

Although it would be awesome to hit 6000 pages and 6000 members on the same date!

[Paskud]

14 minutes ago, LadyLou said:

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Be aware tho that he had some questionable takes in other matters, like selectively calling out Alysa's poor technique but not Anna's or other from Eteri's camp, and just as recently as a few days ago some stuff about cartwheels not belonging to FS

(I actually don't really disagree on this,on the ice I wanna see blades being used. But if done with purpose, fitting the theme like for Zhenya's FS, and well executed like it looks Rika's gonna be, I'm fine with that, as long as there's also going to be actual blade work somewhere in the chsq).

Also, I'm pretty sure some ID stans would be horrified knowing he roots for C/B so much LOL  (not being mean, I like C/B too)

I wasn't exactly watching all his commantaries when he worked with Angeo Dolfini for EurosportItalia (since I didn't have the subscription) and now I merely occasionally retweet stuff when it lands on my TL, so I mostly know his Yuzu-related stuff and in the twitterverse now I often get only the reactions to his words, not his words themselves (though I remember form his podcasts some thing that in hindsight made me cringe a bit).

I'm saying this so you have the whole picture.

I want to add that, while for sure the attention he got through talking about Yuzu is always good for business (especially now that ESPita doesn't have the rights for FS anymore), I do believe he's sincere about his praises for Yuzuru and tha the truly respects him a lot, as athlete and as a person. And I do think he's more knowledgeable than many (most FS commentators and journalists for sure).

I loved listening to his podcasts because of the very..."colourful" way he talked, that made everything sound interesting and exciting and also easy to get. I also liked that he and Angelo were among the few who openly called out questionable technique and who openly spoke about the politicking in the sport

And his and Angelo Dolfini's commentaries of Yuzuru's skates are legendary

 

Also.... we owe the name of our forum to one of Max's famous quotes

 

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He fing called Rika mediocre and I will never forgive him this.

 

[EisElle]

4 minutes ago, FlyingCamel said:

I meant Daniel haha 🙈

LMAO

I remember Max saying once that Lorenzo Magri (Daniel's coach, who is also ISU tech specialist) had talked with him about Yuzu (and how great he was)., I think it was about 2012 (Nice WC maybe), so it's reasonable that Daniel got early exposure to Yuzu and became a fan LOL

(Though I wish that admiration could translate into better technique, but alas)

 

1 minute ago, Paskud said:

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He fing called Rika mediocre and I will never forgive him this.

 

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yeah

aside how unfounded those opinions are, he truly puzzles me with such comments because back in early 2017-18 season he sounded so very excited about her...

 

[Cynthia]

11 hours ago, monchan said:

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Thinking he's Yuzu's "senior" makes me nauseous 

 

Okay, those reporters need a restraining order and charged with trespassing. That is way too far! Though I am doubtful if his female fans are still stalking the family home given the second wave of COVID-19. 

 

On a side note: Sorry for not being very active on these forums. Some of my attention has been directed to sumo wrestling (especially since I follow the lightweight yet cute Enho Akira!), though I still miss watching Yuzuru's Seimei program. If anyone asks, I will just say I am a fan of both! Can't believe it's been a whole year since ACI 2019 too.

[SitTwizzle]

1 hour ago, Cynthia said:

 

Okay, those reporters need a restraining order and charged with trespassing. That is way too far! Though I am doubtful if his female fans are still stalking the family home given the second wave of COVID-19. 

 

On a side note: Sorry for not being very active on these forums. Some of my attention has been directed to sumo wrestling (especially since I follow the lightweight yet cute Enho Akira!), though I still miss watching Yuzuru's Seimei program. If anyone asks, I will just say I am a fan of both! Can't believe it's been a whole year since ACI 2019 too.

I don't know how thing go in Japan but I doubt it would happen in Western Europe.

What I hope is this magazine lose many subscribers, and nobody buy the issue with those photos.

[SuzyQ]

Might have been already posted but,

 

TV Asahi 2 will broadcast ACI 2019 without commentary on September 26, 12:00-18:30 (Japan time).

390 minutes.  Is it really !? 

 

 

[EternalSpin]

9 hours ago, FlyingCamel said:

Isn’t it 405 members left? 

Haha of course 

Math is not my friend today 

[sallycinnamon]

10 hours ago, LadyLou said:

I'm especially disappointed that some fans would accept content from questionable sources (and gained with questionable behaviour, when not straigh out illicit) even if just to say "ah, he's alive".

Like, we don't need to have a tabloid tell us he's alive, or show us the proof. We know he is. And we know he doesn't want to give further details, as it's in his rights. His life and the lives of his family do not belong to anyone but themselves. It's so disappointing when people who call themselves fan fall in the trap of "new content at all costs". Nope. If Zu wanna give us the Worst Drought Ever, we complain and bemoan the adverse fate and joke and wonder what he's doing, but we do respect his choice.

 

It's so true. I can't believe for some people it's more important to see some blurry pictures of him than respecting his privacy.  If he wants to give any details he'll do it, and we all have to respect that. Sadly it's not the first time it happens, and as long as some people who read those tabloids click on the articles or buy those magazines, they will contine the stalking. It's so wrong. 

 

10 hours ago, Geo1 said:

We will reach 6000 pages before we get 6000 members.

 

We are at 5983 pages so we only need 17 more pages to reach 6000 pages.

 

We currently have 5595 members and still need 405 more in order to reach 6000 members.

 

Although it would be awesome to hit 6000 pages and 6000 members on the same date!

 

Yes, we'll reach it sooner.

We're at page 5997 officially because there are several  pages of hidden posts that only admins/mods can see. I think it may take a year to get to 6000 members, but we'll reach 6000 pages in a few days even if we count from page 5983.  

[Ladysci]

4 hours ago, SuzyQ said:

Might have been already posted but,

 

TV Asahi 2 will broadcast ACI 2019 without commentary on September 26, 12:00-18:30 (Japan time).

390 minutes.  Is it really !? 

 

 

 

 @SuzyQ .  That means on 9/26, there will be almost 500 min of Yuzu-related TV, since Music With Wings is scheduled to broadcast after this, if I recall correctly . I was at ACI 2019, so never saw the entire broadcast as a whole---so excited !

[yuzuangel]

5 hours ago, EternalSpin said:

Haha of course 

Math is not my friend today 

omg, same. i read it wrong lol...

[yuzuangel]

19 hours ago, monchan said:

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Thinking he's Yuzu's "senior" makes me nauseous 

WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS?? WHY??? SPECIFICALLY TO REVEAL HIS WHERE/WHEN HE TRAINS? Knowing how much care Yuzu takes to protect that information, that's just despicable! Poor Yuzu...he must be so PISSED

[micaelis]

15 hours ago, Geo1 said:

We will reach 6000 pages before we get 6000 members.

 

We are at 5983 pages so we only need 17 more pages to reach 6000 pages.

 

We currently have 5595 members and still need 405 more in order to reach 6000 members.

 

Although it would be awesome to hit 6000 pages and 6000 members on the same date!

The only way that will happen is if new members come on board like the Poohvalanches that follow Yuzu's performances.  For me a more interesting speculation is will we hit 10,000 pages before Beijing, which means we'll need to be adding a thousand pages about every four months.