Fay Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, Sombreuil said: UK media is odd - not much coverage but what there is goes against what one might logically expect. As @Fay pointed out a few days ago the 'quality' newspaper the Guardian is all out for Nathan Chen, might as well hand over the medal now, quick reference to Yuzuru, and it's a two horse race. The dreadful tabloid rag that my mother reads, the Daily Mail, today covers yesterday's practice and press conference in a reasonable, sensible fashion and mentions Uno,Fernandez, Chen and Jin. I noticed the same thing over the GP. Weird.... My English hosts came to respect the Daily Mail more than the Guardian these recent years - the penmanship in the Guardian has gone really down... Link to comment
OonsieHui Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Since we're on the topic.... What do you guys think about Japanese media? I get the feeling they might be Yuzu heavy, and also mention shoma obviously, but do they cover the other big six at all? Link to comment
WinForPooh Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Fay said: My English hosts came to respect the Daily Mail more than the Guardian these recent years - the penmanship in the Guardian has gone really down... The Graun fired all their subeditors and are running puff pieces straight from publicists. Or so it seems, that Nathan Chen one really annoyed me. The comments, though, were more about Yuzu. Link to comment
Sombreuil Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 It's a shame because the G did that nice article back in 2015 about Seimei. I'm willing to accept that the Mail is good for sport - otherwise it's a bit shouty and knee jerk reactionary over political and social issues, which is why my elderly parents like it - harks back to an inaccurate nostalgic golden age of national service, full employment etc etc. I often have to remind my mother that no matter how many years she's lived here she is actually an immigrant with a foreign passport and my father of how much he disliked his national service ! Link to comment
KatjaThera Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, OonsieHui said: Since we're on the topic.... What do you guys think about Japanese media? I get the feeling they might be Yuzu heavy, and also mention shoma obviously, but do they cover the other big six at all? They obviously like Nathan. But very little coverage for Boyang and Javi - although all the media was there when Javi arrived, I don't think he appeared on any of the news reports... (it could also be they worried about permission and such, since Japan is strict about stuff like that, though). Actually, in general, I expected Javi to be more popular in Japanese media than he is. However, it is a bit amusing how it's ALL Yuzu now. (And OT, but I think part of the outrage about Patrick beating Adam is also due to Adam's popularity with the non-fans in the lead-up to the Olympics. People know him, they've heard about him, it's easy to say: it's the openly gay skater who went against Mike Pence, and so he's easier to sympathize with. While, despite Patricks's status among FS fans, the average non-fan has no idea who he is. I do find it a bit ironic, since 4 years ago, some were saying Yuzu shouldn't have won over Patrick because Yuzu fell while Patrick didn't really.) And I finally managed to watch the press conference. I wonder how Yuzu feels about his translators... Sometimes (like this time), it feels like he could probably manage just as well if not better on his own. (Though it would have been a waste of energy at this point.) Aside from that, I loved how 'worried? who? me? Nah, I'm just having the time of my life!' he was lol. He seems a bit more... mature, somehow? While still very cute and precious... Also, listening with proper volume, I think the mumbled bit after Thank you was in German! (Why no Spanish, Yuzu? Just what was Javi doing during 14 hours of flying? :P) Link to comment
WinForPooh Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Sombreuil said: It's a shame because the G did that nice article back in 2015 about Seimei. I'm willing to accept that the Mail is good for sport - otherwise it's a bit shouty and knee jerk reactionary over political and social issues, which is why my elderly parents like it - harks back to an inaccurate nostalgic golden age of national service, full employment etc etc. I often have to remind my mother that no matter how many years she's lived here she is actually an immigrant with a foreign passport and my father of how much he disliked his national service ! Daily Fail with their sidebar of shame and shouty headlines is annoying, too. Their website landing page is enough to make me sigh and switch tabs. I should try their sports stuff, maybe. The G's quality dropped drastically a couple of years ago. There are a lot of pieces that seem to be straight from authors' publicists, musicians' publicists and so on, run as is, without a paid content tag (maybe it's free to fill space, who knows!). I never noticed it for sports before. Maybe that's because I'm a casual viewer of everything but football and figure skating, and sometimes gymnastics. They can't get away with it in football, they'd get screamed at too much. Clickbait is obvious clickbait and there's plenty of it, but this laziness is rare in football coverage. But who knows, I might've read similar pieces about other athletes and not even known how much lying by omission I was getting! The coverage from their actual sports journalists is still decent, though. I don't think they have one of those for figure skating. But that piece with its casual Yuzu mention, Boyang-Javi-Shoma erasure and all was very, very misleading and lazy. People btl who said they're casual viewers were more informed than the editors, apparently. Link to comment
axelsandwich Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 34 minutes ago, OonsieHui said: Since we're on the topic.... What do you guys think about Japanese media? I get the feeling they might be Yuzu heavy, and also mention shoma obviously, but do they cover the other big six at all? Japanese media - from what I've seen - is focused on reporting on Yuzu and getting the opinions of their many 'experts' (mostly ex-skaters) and analysing everything that happens. They're flocking to Yuzu but that's expected...I actually expected them to feature Shoma more but Shoma's just disappeared from the media as soon as Yuzu got there. They don't tend to do any in-depth pieces on the other skaters, though they'll mention Nathan/Javi/sometimes Boyang when explaining quads etc. They're probably the best when it comes to actually explaining how scoring/jumps/FS works so it's a huge pity their coverage is inaccessible for English-speaking audiences. They're not....very good at hype lol but American media hype is sort of inimitable anyway so >_> Link to comment
MrPudding Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 guys head on over to olympic fluff if you want to see another fancam of the official practice Link to comment
SparkleSalad Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 You guys! My YouTube recommendations just won everything! Tiny baby does Phantom! Link to comment
Xen Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, SparkleSalad said: You guys! My YouTube recommendations just won everything! Tiny baby does Phantom! ...did we just witness Coach Yuzu's first student? o_O Link to comment
SparkleSalad Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Xen said: ...did we just witness Coach Yuzu's first student? o_O The boards slap The mask The bauer The confusion after the fall The bowing CUTECUTECUTECUTECUTECUTE Please take this child on, sensei! Link to comment
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