General Yuzuru Chat

[ShiroKJ]

2 hours ago, Danibellerika said:

Is it just me or did the banner become grainy? Also, can anyone else see my ava? 

 

I can't see your adorable ava 

[yuzuangel]

Hm we've been messing around with the backend to optimize the forum. Can you reupload your avatar, Dani?

[ShiroKJ]

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/article?a=20170602-00010004-sportiva-spo

https://sportiva.shueisha.co.jp/clm/othersports/figure/2017/06/02/post_16/

 

New article w/ Yuzu explaining his reasons for bring back Ballade : His decision wasn't based on the fact that its a WR program. He loves the program itself and feels he hasn't done it justice / to its full potential. He knows he can do it better and feels Ballade shows a side of his skating that only Ballade can. 

 

Sounds like Chopin's here to stay guys  I thought I had seen it at its best and I hope he proves me wrong, like he always does.

[Hydroblade]

11 minutes ago, ShiroKJ said:

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/article?a=20170602-00010004-sportiva-spo

https://sportiva.shueisha.co.jp/clm/othersports/figure/2017/06/02/post_16/

 

New article w/ Yuzu explaining his reasons for bring back Ballade : His decision wasn't based on the fact that its a WR program. He loves the program itself and feels he hasn't done it justice / to its full potential. He knows he can do it better and feels Ballade shows a side of his skating that only Ballade can. 

 

Sounds like Chopin's here to stay guys  I thought I had seen it at its best and I hope he proves me wrong, like he always does.

I don't want my expectations to skyrocket but whoa...

Can't wait to see the final version

[MrPudding]

30 minutes ago, ShiroKJ said:

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/article?a=20170602-00010004-sportiva-spo

https://sportiva.shueisha.co.jp/clm/othersports/figure/2017/06/02/post_16/

 

New article w/ Yuzu explaining his reasons for bring back Ballade : His decision wasn't based on the fact that its a WR program. He loves the program itself and feels he hasn't done it justice / to its full potential. He knows he can do it better and feels Ballade shows a side of his skating that only Ballade can. 

 

Sounds like Chopin's here to stay guys  I thought I had seen it at its best and I hope he proves me wrong, like he always does.

 

Because he hasn't shown Ballade true potential.. I guess because he performed Ballade while he had the injuries and he know that he can do better while he's healthy.

Can't wait to see the final product!

[meoima]

43 minutes ago, ShiroKJ said:

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/article?a=20170602-00010004-sportiva-spo

https://sportiva.shueisha.co.jp/clm/othersports/figure/2017/06/02/post_16/

 

New article w/ Yuzu explaining his reasons for bring back Ballade : His decision wasn't based on the fact that its a WR program. He loves the program itself and feels he hasn't done it justice / to its full potential. He knows he can do it better and feels Ballade shows a side of his skating that only Ballade can. 

 

Sounds like Chopin's here to stay guys  I thought I had seen it at its best and I hope he proves me wrong, like he always does.

To be fair... he has never skated clean Chopin 1.0 inn competition with quad scheduled in the second half. So yeah... maybe he will skate well Chopin 1.0 now. 

[fluffypooh]

45 minutes ago, ShiroKJ said:

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/article?a=20170602-00010004-sportiva-spo

https://sportiva.shueisha.co.jp/clm/othersports/figure/2017/06/02/post_16/

 

New article w/ Yuzu explaining his reasons for bring back Ballade : His decision wasn't based on the fact that its a WR program. He loves the program itself and feels he hasn't done it justice / to its full potential. He knows he can do it better and feels Ballade shows a side of his skating that only Ballade can. 

 

Sounds like Chopin's here to stay guys  I thought I had seen it at its best and I hope he proves me wrong, like he always does.

if he thinks he hasn't skate to its full potential, we really have no reason to doubt him, can't wait for the even more perfect Chopin!

[b138oo]

51 minutes ago, ShiroKJ said:

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/article?a=20170602-00010004-sportiva-spo

https://sportiva.shueisha.co.jp/clm/othersports/figure/2017/06/02/post_16/

 

New article w/ Yuzu explaining his reasons for bring back Ballade : His decision wasn't based on the fact that its a WR program. He loves the program itself and feels he hasn't done it justice / to its full potential. He knows he can do it better and feels Ballade shows a side of his skating that only Ballade can. 

 

Sounds like Chopin's here to stay guys  I thought I had seen it at its best and I hope he proves me wrong, like he always does.

Damn... if he thinks we haven't seen Ballade to it's full potential yet, I wonder what is an ideal perfect skate he has on his mind?? I know he's such an overachiever and a perfectionist, but this statement really makes my jaw drops 

I literally just finished watching 5 different versions of Ballade (Boston, COC, FaOI, DOI?, GPF 2015) and I honestly thought I had seen perfection. But what is this Yuzu??? 

[KatjaThera]

Finally caught up with the thread - yesterday it was too overwhelming to see 100+ posts in just a few hours - and although it's a bit late, I want to share a few thoughts, too, on the previous topic(s)

 

Regarding arrogant when coming back, I think that could be just their preconception. As in, they expect those who come back to be arrogant and will interpret any word and gesture as such, even when they’re not. Also, becoming familiar with the more open and free western way of thought (which also has its downsides), might result in a change of perspective in the returnees. But IMO, it’s the coaches’ duty to take that and work with the skaters to develop the positive aspects of that. (It reminds of a case in JPop, where a member of a band went overseas for a few months and it then became clear he and the rest of the band had grown in very different ways during that time. Neither was better than the other, IMO, but they were different and they failed to blend them, in the end.)

 

If Japanese coaches - especially young - went abroad to learn, wouldn’t they then be likely to “come back arrogant,” too? And would the senpai coaches listen to them, anyway? And if they dared tell a senpai coach what they’re doing is wrong or not ideal, would that not be “proof of arrogance?”

 

And I’m actually surprised there hasn’t been more - hinted at or otherwise - bashing of Yuzuru’s choice to go to Canada. I know there are even fans who still object to it. (OT thoughts about Yuzu's going to Canada:

Spoiler

Although recently I’ve come to think even aside from the skating aspect, him going to Canada was probably the best decision he could have taken. I think it’s good for him to spend most of his training time in an apolitical environment. And I also wonder if going to Canada wasn’t subconsciously also about addressing his earthquake trauma. Going somewhere safe, where he wouldn’t risk being reminded of the disaster every day, and where earthquakes don’t happen - I think? Or at least not as often. Of course, it’s also something he probably felt guilty about, and that maybe played a bigger part in his flying back and forth than other factors, but I think it would have been much harder for him to stay, especially without directly addressing the trauma - through therapy - which I’m not sure he ever did. (Perhaps because of how high he has risen, many people, himself included, seem to be ignoring or underestimating that trauma. How bad it is, only he knows - or maybe not even him, because I'm not sure he's ever given himself the chance to sit down and analyze it - though.)

)

Dmitri sounds in awe, but it’s cute I’m also not very surprised Miki’s defending his emotional side. Admittedly I haven’t seen that much of her, but she doesn’t seem to fit the ideal of Japanese lady. She, too, seems open about her emotions and in the interviews with Javi on TSL (I think it was?), she was loud and flashy and not really very Japanese - which is not criticism on my part, but I can imagine she might have been attacked for it over time. But I do like her words, too. (Especially the don't deserve him part.)

 

[b138oo]

Actually, I came back to this thread after watching several versions of Chopin to ask about Chopin 3.0, but got distracted by the news 

Anyway, anyone knows what's the difference in timing between Chopin 1.0 and 3.0 that makes the timing into the 1st spin so off at the 3.0 version? I know in 1.0 especially at COC he had this huge SE-3A-SE and then kinda spent a little bit more time on the SE before going into the spin. However, the program sequence was still the same and it didn't feel awkward back then. 

[yuzuthebest]

https://t.co/KT1dB0MjvP

I guess many people would love to be Junior High

School students again    

According to this twitter, it's a textbook for Moral

Education in Junior High Schools here.

6 pages with plenty of Yuzu's pictures as reported will

draw enough attention from a class for ethical training,

particularly if the students are his fans, aren't they ?

Anyway, as it's a supplementary reader, there's a

possibility of not being used at school, but on your own...

[MrPudding]

 

[xeyra]

10 minutes ago, MrPudding said:

 

 

Hmmm... the more he talks about the 4T the more I begin to think he'll indeed go for a 4Lz-less layout with two repeat quads and one 3A. 

[Marin]

2 minutes ago, xeyra said:

 

Hmmm... the more he talks about the 4T the more I begin to think he'll indeed go for a 4Lz-less layout with two repeat quads and one 3A. 

But he also  keeps saying that he's not gonna ditch 2x 3As  ...

[kamotejojo]

On 6/1/2017 at 4:55 PM, sublimeskating said:

i love miki's defense of yuzu's emotional self too!  i agree with her! 

On 6/1/2017 at 5:13 PM, xeyra said:

Also,   at Miki championing Yuzu's right to be himself and react as he damn well pleases.

On 6/2/2017 at 6:15 AM, KatjaThera said:

I’m also not very surprised Miki’s defending his emotional side. Admittedly I haven’t seen that much of her, but she doesn’t seem to fit the ideal of Japanese lady. She, too, seems open about her emotions and in the interviews with Javi on TSL (I think it was?), she was loud and flashy and not really very Japanese - which is not criticism on my part, but I can imagine she might have been attacked for it over time. But I do like her words, too. (Especially the don't deserve him part.)

I know a person cannot please everyone, but someone who encourages transparency and freedom of expression can't be that bad?  

 

On 6/1/2017 at 3:58 PM, meoima said:

Some "certain" Yuzuru's fans keep saying everything Yuzuru has today should be thanked to the time he's in Japan, and they keep bashing Orser and CC team as much as possible. Yeah certainly you know who I am talking about. And they totally ignore the fact that Yuzuru's Scriabin SP and Romeo 1.0 got re-choreographed by Russian specialists. 

Some fans are unable to see the truth laid out in front of them. Wasn't it Abe who encouraged Yuzuru to train overseas? Wasn't it Yuzuru who chose and is still with TCC? Can this "fan" who you're pertaining to just respect his decision? The conspiracy theories are getting tiresome. And please, we aren't within the walls of TCC so saying we'll never know for certain if ***** favors ***** is plain ridiculous. Skaters go there to improve their skills and hopefully, win in competitions. Yuzuru is producing good results, right? Does it really matter who ***** is having Sunday BBQs with? Or heaven forbid someone praise Yuzuru's direct competition.  When one stops and thinks about it logically, what would be the best for Cricket's credibility? One elite/top-tier figure skater or TWO?

 

On 6/2/2017 at 2:31 AM, kaeryth said:

 

I also get the impression that Orser actually learned a lot from Yuzuru strategy wise. In his documentaries you see his notes and how much he studies everything.

 

But yeah.. it's funny how circumstances in his life has shaped him....

 

...And he always rises above and gets stronger. And.... I'm making myself emotional now... hahaha 

And Orser isn't afraid to publicly admit when Yuzuru's right. He isn't perfect and is still learning as a coach, but there are worse coaches one could end up with.  By the way, I was connecting this to my prior comment about certain fans. 

 

That's why I can't help but  at a certain foreign publication painting him as paranoid and sheltered. There is a reason why he needs a bodyguard. There is a reason why other people handle the logistics of his day-to-day affairs. And yes, he knows what being a public figure entails. When he doesn't stop to sign stuff/pose for pics/talk to fans, it does not mean there's no appreciation for their support. *whispers* Can you imagine the traffic congestion if he has to cater to every single one of them? Plus he won't have the time to do anything else.