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He has been doing 3F as the third jump since forever, he would not remove it unless he put in a 4F. Even if he include 4Lo for Seimei, it will still have the 3F as the 3rd jump.He would rather do 3 quad at the second half rather than having to switch the order of 3F, that's just how he rolls. If he has a 5 quad layout it would be something similar to this -> 4Lz 4Lo 3F /// 4S3T 4S2T 4T 3Alo3S 3A or he could do 3Alo3F instead and switch it with 3Lz

I am betting on don quixote, but then again, john curry's version is quite iconic (it is like doing bolero, you WILL be compared to torvill and dean). I think zorro would fit his character more but I doubt that is what he means?

Yuna had trouble with her 3F (she received an edge call at worlds 2013), after her 3Lz became much stronger, but I would not say that it is going to affect Yuzuru per se. I'd say he has found a way to mask his flat edge at the flip by doing that crazy entry he did to keep his edge from going outside. I was the one who said that I worry about his landing foot, simply because Yuzuru himself has injured his lysfranc doing 4T in the previous season. But since his toepick foot for 4T is not the same with his landing foot, it is less of a concern. 4Lz (and also 4F) would be a different thing because he is going to pick and land with the same foot, so if there is lysfranc problem due to overtraining on that foot (knock woods), it is going to be more of a concern.

I feel like joining in XD Ok so for me the first skate that I ever watch and fell in love with was Yagudin's winter. After that, I watched Michelle Kwan's fields of gold (which made me cry), all during SLC 2002. I fell in love with skating then. I have to say I was just a casual fan back then though, I did not even know what a lutz, axel, or even differentiate a quad and a triple. Things were simpler in the 6.0 days (but I like CoP more lol). I started having more knowledge about the sport post Turin olympics, I followed the ladies more back then since no men attracted me again the same way Yagudin did. I was actually aware of Yuzuru around the 2011/2012 season, but to be honest I was not a fan back then, I was not even yet a fan after he won Sochi. But I know he had the talent, I know he is a genious, and I always had a soft spot for him, it just hasn't clicked yet maybe. But to me, his NHK and GPF 2015 performance are everything I ever dreamed of in a figure skating performance. I began to see him differently. I got major goosebumps, and I think I teared up a bit the first time I watched it. I thought to myself : This is THE SKATER. The ultimate, once-in-a-lifetime talent, the GOAT, the best ever, you name it. As I got to know more about him off ice, I found out he has an endearing personality and antics too. So it just naturally happened that I hardcore uber him hard not long after that. The season after that was tough though, with Boston and all, but I survived (to those who has been his fan since junior days, wow, my hats to you, this boy and you been through a lot, with the tsunami, rink closing, CoC incident etc etc)

No problem! Also, to answer your previous question, yes, if the skater wants to, the chsq could be the 2nd stsq. I think it is essentially to give room for skaters to not have such a strict level-based stsq (for example, pre-CoP, there would be so many firecracking and fast footwork sequence, my fave is yagudin's straight line step sequence, but this sequence would never satisfy the levels needed in the CoP system) and to include more free skating movements that does not satisfy/included in the level requirements. I think prior to 2010, iirc, it is still required for men to have 2 type of stsq even in the SP. But skaters rarely utilize the Chsq as a 2nd stsq nowadays imo, and used it just as a breathing point and cool down session, since the point given is not too high and no reason to spend energy there No worries, I am confused too at times, especially since they keep updating things every single year.

depending on the level, lvl 4 stsq would have x0.7 factor so the max GOE is 2.1; while lvl3 stsq would only have a factor of x0.5 thus the max GOE is 1.5.

@Dara I think SOI is kind of a frequent thing for David Wilson and Sandra bezic, no? So eventhough he did not choreograph all stop it is still kind of his "baby" haha.

Oh lol no need to apologize, choreo talk is always fun on the off-season

Oh lol the choreographer talk again. Anyway, just saying though. Choreographing LP is more difficult that choreographing SP. There are more elements to put in into, and 2 stsq (well one was a chsq but you get my gist). Especially when you choreograph for someone like Yuzuru who is very particular about how he wants to get into and out of his jumps + those other specific things he asked for. Orser said that this is one of the reason why it would be "difficult" for Yuzuru to work with someone other than Jeff and Shae. DW created many masterpieces SP, but like Likitsu (or Joey) said, I don't recall an LP where I think it is a total masterpiece. I actually think for Jeffrey Buttle it is more or less the same, I like many of his SP but I think I have yet to really think the LP he choreographed is a masterpiece (though I have many LP which I like). He choreographed for Marin LP last season, and though I like the program, I would not say that the program is a "masterpiece" (and it is actually a bit generic). While for Shae, I think her biggest strength as a choreographer is she make a choreography that somewhat fit the skaters' uniqueness, strength and personality. She choreographed for Yuzu, Ashley and Dai etc and to be honest if you look at her choreography for them, you would not have thought that it was choreographed by the same person. Of course once you choreographed like dozens of programs per season, there is only so many "good programs" you can pull off, and I think this is the case with DW, Lori, Tom dickson, etc and start to be the case for Jeff and Shae. I think Shae did fantastic with Wakaba's and Radionova's SP this year, and regardless of what everyone said, Yuzuru's HnL. Ashley's exogenesis was not bad too. But Rika Hongo's carmina burana is so generic, so there, there is only so much you can pull off when you choreographed for so many skaters. Regardless, Shae has proven that she could create LP masterpieces. Who Yuzu will go to is another story though, because he probably has reasons if he eventually decide to change choreographers.

So Alina is confirmed to move senior next season. Things will be... interesting :D

Honestly all of the 4A attemot I saw are either < or << even the one from Max Aaron, artur dimitriev jr etc etc. I have yet to see one that is even legitimately fully rotated and these ones are on harness so I think to finally see a 4A landed without harness would be quite something. Even for Yuzu.

There is dylan too and I think his mom was also sitting nearby. Many of team Canada is there which is not surprising because Chiddy is going to skate too

Well, for 4A, the height would have been higher and the rotation would have looked much faster than that.

No idea because the video is a 3A

I am referring to a different interview. It is published by new york times and I quote here https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/01/sports/dazzling-free-skate-lifts-yuzuru-hanyu-to-world-title.html?_r=0 Also yes: In the spectrum of men's skating I would consider Yuzu as pretty consistent. P.S : Also, about nathan, I am not surprised at all. People who actually follow him knows he peak at around Nats and always perform sub-par by the time of worlds (or in his case junior worlds). So please don't listen to goldfish-memory commentators and experts/bloggers. HOWEVER, he has a very convenient peaking time for olympics. And if nothing changes, I expect him to peak around Nats/Olympics again.

Well I agree. I don't think I consider any of the top men as consistent as in Zhenya's type of consistent. But then again, she is not doing 3A and quads, who knows maybe if Yuzu only did 4S and 4T we would have seen a more consistent version of him, but everybody knows that is not going to happen due to the direction of the sport is going (this is the man who keeps upgrading something each season), so you are going to expect to see some splat here and there. I actually don't mind the "inconsistency" of the top men, because that means they are pushing themselves and getting out of their comfort zone. Because hey, If you are clean all the time, maybe your layout is too easy for you? But I think the sentiment among general skating fans that if Yuzuru is clean he is unbeatable is still very strong (whether the judges is going to go with it or not is another story). Even Javier himself said it recently, if Yuzuru is clean, he is unbeatable, and this man is his biggest rival for the past years.

Um lol chill a bit. I actually think they are quite complimentary to Yuzuru if you actually listen to the podcast. From the tone of their voice, their word choice and their figure of speech, I think they genuinely think Yuzuru is the man to beat and if he is clean he would win. I would argue that the tone of how they talk about Yuzuru is even nicer than some (some, not all) Japanese media who sometimes paints a narrative as if Yuzuru is really threatened by the younger guys. They really think Yuzuru is still the top guy if he delivers.

Well yeah, I doubt they really follow him that closely and aware of his condition every single time. I even doubt they remember he was off-ice for 2 months because of his lysfranc injury. This season Jackie was so surprised that Yuzu bombed SC SP and kind of tweeted "when was the last time he score this low?" as if Yuzuru has not bombed the previous season (and scored lower). (Someone reminded him of that though, and he admitted that after GPF and NHK, everything Yuzu did before, like bombing, was a blur )

I am thinking that Jackie meant in world championship. The last WC where he performed well and do a great FS was indeed 3 years ago.

Will do later together with his updates for the past 3 days

Ok finally listening to it. Starts at 28.40 for the Yuzu part (I don't know which Nick is which. Kind of recognized Jackie's voice. Sorry.) Will update the transcript as I listen to it, they talked about US men first and how Nathan dominated nationally, then... but internationally... this is where Yuzu part starts Not verbatim, I reword/concise it but it is more or less what they were saying. "Nick : When you look at it internationally, Yuzuru Hanyu reclaims his world title, and I think Javi falters in that FS but also Yuzuru Hanyu went out reclaiming his world title and went out with that FS, how does it feel inside the arena? JW : I meant, it was magical right? Like it was like... I am sure that GPF 2 years ago and at NHK, and it was just like, obviously at WC you got huge contingent of Japanese fans there cheering and I am pretty sure it was pretty packed if not sold out that night. And it was just electrifying, it was just.. You can see with every single jump there was more and more momentum behind him. And you know when he got off that ice, you knew it was going to be another world record. It was a more difficult program than what he showed at GPF. Maybe it is not the most popular, but my thoughts on his the very best ever is still the GPF. Lower difficulty but higher quality program than what he had this year. But like you said, he did win that WC. If Javi has skated a clean FS, he did have that huge lead going in, I think probably they would give it to him, but it would take perfection from him." Nick: This is a point that could be argued, but I think Yuzuru Hanyu needed that in a sense. I meant, even if he wouldn't have won worlds, I still think we would have said, going into the olympics, that he is the best skater out there right now. And that he is the favorite. but for him, to do what he did in Helsinki, I felt like,, he proved to himself for the first time in a while that he can do that. And you know.. Kind of reminded the Shoma unos, the Javis and the rest of the guys like... "hey, I'm top dog, and we're going to South Korea and I will be the favorite there." JW : Well, it's getting awfully crowded at the top now, I meant... (someone cuts: BIG 6) And I think Brian orser might have said this and maybe Yuzu did, that he needed this one. Like last 2 WC he lead after the SP and blew it so (someone: lose it to Javi), and then you saw Nathan outscore him at the FS at GPF and beat him at 4CC. And if Yuzu had gone with an error prone FS at worlds, and got beaten, he will be going to the season next year with a lot of people questioning : "can Yuzuru deliver under pressure?" Cause you know, he hadn't, for perhaps... 3 years, and you know like you said he really needed it. He's kind of re-grabbed that position, now a lot can change when you look at shoma Uno and Jin Boyang, but Yuzu's got to be feeling really good going into the off-season (or next season?). "

No, I Haven't had the time to listen to it sadly, maybe later after I reached home hahaha.

Hahahahaha even faster than I thought Talking about lightning speed That is really lovely to see though

hahaha fast aren't they

Thank you steemsprite!