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The most iconic SP The way he throw those ice sprinkles just spelt EXTRA and DRAMA everything I love in figure skating <3

Even if he does have to go, he will go to Tohoku-Hokkaido one and I doubt there is any skater there who can even come near him even if he only do triples. Isn't the one who can do quad (or even 3A) only Yuzu, Shoma. Keiji, Dice, Mura, sota, Kazuki? I don' think Ryuju has a quad (a stable one at least). koshiro does not even have a stable 3A. And these skaters are not on that region.

Yes they did. 1 week earlier than last year iirc but around the same time. Though I also would suspect it is either AC or finlandia ^^

Well, I think most knew and were aware that Yuzuru would go and should go and deserved to go. Unreasonable people who think otherwise... let's just say I would not care for them haha Yeah, Dai went to Finlandia at 2009/2010 iirc (he skipped the entire 2008/2009 season). But like... what do you expect... I doubt any sane Fed will not let the reigning WC and OGM go for Nats? O_O Also I think Yuzuru would go to at least 1 CS

Wow thanks for the info! Haha why are you apologizing, this info is awesome! I have never seen them competing internationally before so I assume they only pair up recently. But they look promising. Especially once they got 3Tw and 3Th down :D Is Utana and Takumi the one who went to the same competition with Kana and Chris and the spanish ice dance team (only they went for novice). I remembered a japanese ID team won that event (novice one, iirc) Was that them?

Ah I see :D i doubt anyone would protest the reigning WC and Oly champ skipping sectionals though :p But I do wonder if this ever happened before. I think it has. Non-seeded skaters don't have to take part in sectionals, I meant. Can't think of who on the top of my head. Iirc dai did not go to 2008 Nats but I don't know if he did not go to sectionals that time.

Oh was there an issue? I remembered even Mao's fans are talking about this after her finish at Nationals (and daisuke murakami and sota yamamoto too). If I am not wrong, mikaboo said that if they are sent to international competition around that time (like CS for example), they don't have to go. I doubt the reigning WC skipping sectionals is ever an issue, since many thinks even dice or sota probably whould not go too if they are sent to CS.

Yeah, I think this is allowed if you have international competition around sectionals (like AC). I remember mikaboo told me that.

I was gone for quite a while (like a day only tbh but well...) And when I am back we already moved! Lovely I hope I did not miss many Yuzu news I haven't caught up yet haha

Youtube does that sometimes, they review the view count.

Lol mishin is so hot and cold

All their fluff clips are not necessarily fluff lol it is hilarious, looking back :rofl2: OT : I remembered when Yags r**** at SC and he was interviewed (by tracy in fact, I think?) and tracy pointed, "so plushenko is here." and Yags was like "I don't care" or something :rofl2: But I think Petrenko and Browning was not so intense as them too? So does the Brians? We knew Yuzu and Javi is pretty chill overall compared to Plush and Yags.

Some people did miss the jabs thrown at each other from Yagudin or plushy though. They think it makes the sport more entertaining than this somewhat friendly and chill rivalry between Yuzu and Javi :laugh: About Patrick : I think what he said is pretty tame compared to what Yags and Plush threw at each other. But he stands out because other in his generation (post-vancouver/sochi quad) does not really talk like this.

He actually has not trained in TCC yet during Sochi iirc, still with Moore-Towers :D But yeah he seems like a nice guy. :) P.S : always late to the party, people are talking about cats now :rofl2:

It was dylan he trains with Yuzu haha

Haha yeah, maybe does not believe is a bit extreme. But more like it is something he is not sure whether to fully throw himself into 100% (Because really, if one wants to be really strict and believe in peaking 100%, they would be very strict with the training regimen, rest/recovery period etc etc, which I think Yuzuru is not yet at that stage). I think another point of view of how to look at it : he might believe in peaking, but it probably is difficult for someone like him to listen to someone telling him to not/stop practice when he feels he is in a good condition. Maybe he feels he can extend his peak more, maybe he feels training a bit more would help him peak at the right time (or as oppose to Brian's training regimen for example) rather than slowing down. Which is why his coaches repeatedly say things like "trust your training", because maybe he has yet to fully 100% trust it. :s_wink

I have a different impression tbh, i think he is still trying to bargain that he is not going to be perfect all the time. At the 2015/16 season, from his interview, it does seem like he genuinely believed he could be perfect all the time and be at his best shape, thus mistakes (especially after that GPF and NHK performance) upset him a lot. Looking at how he did his practice session at that season, I also think he was still under this belief that he was invincible in a sense; I would see him jumping too much many times, skating and jumping away (possibly against his coach's advise too, I would still see it a bit at AC and SC last season, even). That attitude changed last season. Even in practice he would hold himself back, spend more time talking with his coaches at the boards, refusing to jump too many quads at practice whether at gala or OP etc etc. He initially said things like aiming for perfect performances (at AC) etc etc but then slowly his attitude changes into raising his average (at NHK). At worlds and 4CC, his words was also quite a contrast from his past-self, where he said "I want to show the result of my training" instead of wanting to win perfectly, revenge (lol) and break records. At the end of the season he lamented about how important it is to be clean as often as possible (but also about how difficult it is to do that), so I think he is still in the bargaining stage of accepting peaking, just my opinion. ;) ETA : Lol, also one more thing that gives me this impression. When after worlds interview Brian said that when he told Yuzuru not to jump so much and that today is his rest day, Yuzuru replied with "really?" and Brian said he had to convince him to trust him on this. These are just some of the instances that gave me the impression that Yuzu is not 100% behind Brian's peaking theory :p

That may not be a bad thing? I mean it depends where the 4Lz is; it isn't any more dangerous than it would be if he were simply practicing it. What I mean is at the start he does it in a harness but after that, it's simply a matter of practice so even if he does, and we know the 4Lz was around 60%, then it's fine. The trick is not to over-do it, and here we need to believe he knows his own body and limits by now and will honor them (and I think he will). Yeah. Plus it'd serve as more practice time to get it consistent enough for him to think about adding it. I am not concern about his ability to restrain himself nowadays, tbh. But I think being away from your coaching team for too long is never good. One thing that I think of about why their peaking strategy work last season is because Yuzuru is with his coaching team the majority of the time. It is hard to monitor, calculate and deduce your peaking condition and pattern when you are away from each other (like when Yuzuru is in Toronto for 1 month then in Japan for another)like from the past seasons. Altering/modifying your training load/volume is one of the key point in peaking. Even when Yuzuru followed Brian's training regimen when he was away, there could be times it needs to be adjusted accordingly, and this is quite difficult to do when you are not monitoring your pupil yourself. (Especially since Brian seemed to imply Yuzuru did not contact him much when he was in Japan). About ice shows, it would definitely affect the peaking. But not necessarily in a bad sense. What I meant by affecting peaking is that, it means his training regimen for the following period after that needs to be adjusted, taking into account that he is doing ice shows for 4 weeks. Now the only question mark will be, if the adjustment is going to be accurate and precise or not. Peaking is a tricky thing because you really need to monitor and adjust it closely (and I have a feeling that Yuzuru does not believe in peaking so much, hence his nonchalant attitude to it, contrary to Brian lol).

Please do. I'd love to read that word vomit. :bow: LOL. Ok, Brian's words was, iirc, that Yuzuru does not follow the "normal" peaking trend/pattern, that Yuzu can reach optimum peaking condition just within 2 weeks (correct me if I am wrong please). So imo, he has not find the right training regimen/load for Yuzuru OR as we all know that Yuzuru is not always in his watchful eyes, who knew, when he was training by himself, he may not follow the training regimen/load strictly thus overtraining hence peaking faster and in a shorter period amount of time. I suspect it is a bit of both, because as you can see from his practice session (Boston for example), Yuzuru also has the tendency to overtrain and jump too much, thus messing with his tapering period/peaking period. What you want is to peak at the competition, not the practice, and there is a window where you can be at your peak, vary from person to person, maybe could reach 1 week for some, could be as low as 1-2 day. Usually you go from 40% to 60-80% to 100% training load in a certain period of time then you go into a taper period before competition where you reduce training load to half or less so that you can be in optimum/peak condition at the day of the competition. In athletic sports like running etc, your optimal/peaking condition/pattern/level can be measured by your time etc, I am not sure how it works for FS. Maybe Brian goes by jumping success rate percentage, or speed or etc, don't know. But he should be able to recognize when is his student in their best shape. I am not sure either how he arrange the period of this "peaking", 1 month? 2 weeks? Because for some sport the window could be something like 3-month (where there is 2-3 competition in that period for example, aiming to actually peak at the important one. It really vary from person-to-person and in different sports.

Since people has been talking about peaking, I'd say skipping shows may or may not affect him, we will never know, I guess we would only know by how the olympics season will go. Peaking is not something exclusive for figure skating, it exists in every sport (especially more common in periodic sport) and if you google "peaking in sports" there are so many specialists, programs, experts that offer their expertise/advice in this area, tailored into your specific sports and specific/required competition period/schedule. From many that I have read, peaking has to do with adjusting your training regimen and your conditioning, and recognizing when is your optimum condition/level from the trend. You go from low-moderate-high-taper-and finally reaching peak performance. The period and load for each vary between person-to-person, and there is needed "rest/recovery period" in-between. I have also read that this works like a curve, where after you reach your peak you will decline again. And this is where coaches/peaking specialist is needed in adjusting your training regimen, and one of the reason why athlete can't go by just training by themselves (for example, why Yuzuru would do better if he will have someone actually watches over him because they can monitor his peaking condition) For example of varying training regimen, copying this here from a website If any of you remember during worlds 2017, when Brian told Yuzuru after SP during OP that "this is his rest day" and it works out for him, that is an example of applying the whole peaking method. Anyway I have more thoughts about Yuzuru's peaking but I am afraid if I type everything it would be a word vomit from me. :space:

There is Plushy and then there is Goebel (congrats btw!), but what is our 4x WC and 2002 OGM Alyosha been up to :D

Well, frankly speaking it would take divine intervention for Japan to even medal. Both Yuzu and Shoma need to be 1st at both SP and LP. The ladies need to be at least 2nd behind the Russians (I am being realistic), and the pairs and ID to skate their socks off so that they are not dead last + have the top team botched something so the ranks and points scrambled a bit (like Canada/US/Russian pairs botching hard for example).

It will likely be Ryuichi. Narumi and her partner can't even triple throw and 3tw yet so I doubt they can fulfil the minimum TES Yes probably. Narumi and Ryo have no citizenship issues but their showing at Nationals was pretty weak, so not sure about them getting tech minimum this season . :silent: I actually don't really remember Nats but at AWG I knew they can't 3Tw yet and all the throw triples(or was it planned double) are botched. If they suddenly can do 3Tw and triple throw then that is a different issue but I kind of doubt it. It looks like they are looking ahead past PC for partnership and taking things slow. They are actually more or less about the same. China's ID team qualify over Kana/Chris by 1 position. Their ladies are not that strong too though comparing their ladies to japan's pairs they probably are in a better position. They got strong pairs and men though, like Japan is with men and ladies. US is not that much different, currently their ID is the dependable one and also Men but ladies are a bit questionable, even moreso for pairs. Russia mostly strong in ladies but their men are quite meh, ID pretty okay but not medal contender, pairs are still pretty strong medal contenders. It is actually only Canada who is strong in all field.

It will likely be Ryuichi. Narumi and her partner can't even triple throw and 3tw yet so I doubt they can fulfil the minimum TES

Erm, so far only 4 teams actually qualify, no? Canada, US, Russia, China? they still need 6 teams left and even counting korea in as host, the countries that are closest to qualify are still only France, Japan, Germany, Italy and 1 spot left for another country. Others are even further away from qualifying than those 4. Also though sumire and francis can go to nebelhorn to grab the spot, they can't go to the team event. my take is, it is highly unlikely that Japan will not qualify