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to the above post: There are skaters who can transcend that. Also, Boyang does have to do a bit extra to get his pcs points, chinese skaters are just not viewed as artistic, and some people in China even hold that view. So I am not shocked that he is not going for TES, but trying for an insane choreography.

have some faith in his body too. He has amazing stamina for a boy with asthma. Also go check out some of the injuries the other guys had, Nate has already had surgery, Vincent had to remove some of his kneecap I heard, Plush had surgery on his spine. Yuzu has had some scary ones, but at least all the known ones appear less than some of the other guys jumping quads.

he plays politics by not playing politics. His fanbase has scary solidarity in supporting him, and the medua is probably charmed by the fact he is so honest, with no trained PR dressing.

Have some faith in him, remember what he had to recover from, very quickly too, last off season. For all the wrong reasons, his team is quite experienced in the recover quickly field. Trust in his team and his training a bit. =)

Before we go too far into this panic and anger mode, let me just say some things very very loudly. As a chinese person, who actually skates here. a. In China, figure skating is a minority sport. Hate to say it, but speed skating will probably get more viewership than figure skating. Yup...you heard me right-speed skating, short track and our rivalry (yay nationalism) with South Korea will get more attention than Sui/Han. b. Most of the public have no idea what figure skating is, probably don't even know who Sui/Han is, and I'd be surprised if they know who Shen/Zhao are. I'm serious about this. Until Shen/Zhao won the olympics, people pretty much had no idea who they were. That China has even good pair skaters is a surprise to people. Seriously. c. Hockey is more popular than figure skating among the youngsters here. Unfortunately, China relies more on commercial rinks, who have to make a profit, and guess what, selling Hockey classes earns more money than figure skating. Let's put it this way, I skate on a commercial rink, 5/7 days from 7:30-10 pm, my rink is reserved for the commercial rink's hockey club team practices. And I wonder how I even manage to practice 6 hours a week. Oh, did I mention they also reserved the rink on saturday and sunday mornings? And on public sessions, about a third of the rink is closed off for hockey kids' private lessons? d. As a whole, I don't think China actually holds any expectations on any mens or ladies single skater to do well. If anyone managed to finish in the top 6 they'd be considered a national hero. In fact, I was surprised that Boyang even got media attention! So I don't think anyone will blame Boyang, mainly because people didn't have expectations for him to medal anyways. I hate to say this, but I think the expectations on Li Zijun have been gone for a while, very few skaters at my rink know that much about her other than that one controversy, and the following has definitely shifted to Li Xiangning. By the way, you guys here probably know more chinese figure skaters than I do. =) My knowledge has been pairs teams, Boyang, Han Yan, and that's about it. Sports as a whole is quite nationalism/ politics driven in China, to a degree. It's getting better, but unless the agenda somehow fits with a national goal, there's less money devoted to it. Pairs gets money courtesy of Shen/Zhao's olympics gold, but figure skating won't get the huge budget until we head towards Beijing 2022, when the gov't decides hmm, maybe we want to excel in figure skating. Zhao has his (political) work cut out for him. As for Lori-well she's the teacher. You know, we're not exactly taught in China to go against our teachers. Even Boyang, even if he had doubts at any point, would not go against it. Our culture has been, and always will be one where we are told to "reflect on your own deficiencies first." That's just welcome to Asia. And again, the C-fed probably is focused more on building up for Beijing 2022 now, so anything, even if we think is painful, if they view it as good for Chinese skating in the long run, they'll go with it now. Again, there are no expectations for a Chinese male, never mind a ladies to medal PERIOD. So to the chinese skaters, anytime so long as its before Beijing 2022, is a good time to work on anything you need to improve on going into 2022. And for Boyang, if it means SS, stamina, even if it ruins some of the program for him this season, it will be viewed as a building block, not a "problem of the choreographer." And in the long view, maybe it's not a problem of the choreographer, but something he'd have to work on anyways.

I took a stab at the game of ID Yuzu's age. I think I'm getting better at this. Personally: 1) His face has gotten more angular, especially from the cheekbone to the jawline section, it's gotten more narrow too 2) His skin has improved with age, and lighter I think 3) Maybe my eyes are fooling me, but I think is facial proportions have improved a bit. It's a bit more even and balanced, especially around the nose bridge to chin section. Possibly because his eyes have narrowed just a slight bit. Lastly, I think his eyes have gotten a bit more softer when he smiles, but the murderface glare hasn't changed.

I prefer Yuzu speaking japanese, he has a very gentle and soothing voice.

was this the one that had no flags?

A family effort to keep him cuffed, chained and away from ice rinks....Brian's hair thanks them for taking on the burden.

A. I doubt it, as no one has really gone clean yet, no way other guys are not controlling their peak timing. B. Hey, don't write off Rippon yet. C. Let people be awed by the real, true skating at Olys, that has more viewership anyways.

Well, it's not really real...so uh...maybe someone can fanfic write it?

No no, no media please. After this GP cycle, with all the freak incidents these boys had, I secretly want them to be unknown, underestimated, so then they can silently ninja their way to the Oly podium. It would be just sweet revenge against the public that wrote them off. =D

Excuse me, but that's possibly got better SS and TR than the actual GPF.

Uncles GPF...and then low-key invite Rippon, and Boyang (just say Boyang is doing more choreography work with Lori in Canada).

I almost forgot, Yuzu should be able to have some "competition" in TCC itself during this time period, so we should also stop speculating and worrying about his competition readiness. If I recall, didn't Brian mention in some interview that TCC holds some internal mock competitions too? I think they run it at the start of the season for new programs critiques, but nothing says they can't run it during the season if necessary. The men's roster inside TCC is pretty good- Yuzu, Cha, Javi to start, then Gogolev is also going senior this year (?) so he'll probably also join the senior mock competitions. Considering their competition schedules, they probably will need to hold quite a number of these to keep all their senior men in good competitive mentality. There's also the possibility they run it with other canadian men, so possibly invite Nam, Keagan, even Patrick occasionally. So he should be fine.

i'm thinking here normal means his normal practice routine, which can be either or both scenarios， more likely the condition he was in before 17 NHK, close to but not fully at peak?

THIS is so like him that it hurts! My sides are in pain from laughter And to those who still worry- much as I hate to say it, Yuzu's team has unfortunately a lot of experience on rehabilitating in a short time from career threatening injuries even. I won't name the season, but if he can overcome that and go on to tackle H&L and a new jump in such a short time, let's have faith in him. We owe it to his poor ankle, that is now the target of his kuyashii infused angst, and all those protein and amino shakes.

Good mental status? Well if Kuyashii infused angst is good mental status, then yes, very good mental status. Mental theater: Yuzu thinking: - I shall start practicing, cannot let muscles deteriorate. I shall show them that even handicapped do not ever underestimate me. -The average age of the mens podium was 29. Satton recovered well enough to do a lot of her jumps. Meanwhile I'm complaining about a right ankle. Humph, no right ankle, dammit, will come between me and my goals! You got that right ankle? I can't believe I got shown up by guys older than me...argggh! - I can do this, and to start my path I will do muscle training with my arms and left leg. Crutches or not! Meanwhile the Kuyashii pile just grows and grows, until he starts sprinting on crutches, which the rest of us normal humans write off as unusual, but to him is just part of "normal exercise."

This is such good news to wake up to. Good to see he can now watch skating on TV. But did he.watch the mens? If he did, did he go "Oh, so you can still do quads at age 30?!" If yes, I think we may have a lot more rollercoaster seasons to live through. Though by now, we have all gained partial immunity, with extra strong hearts to boot.

Feel bad for his future SO (significant other). Think about it: Future SO: Yuzu, I'm going to be gone for 3 days, during this time, will you be okay? Yuzu (big grin): Yes. Future SO: I wrote instructions taped to the fridge in case you need to figure out how to microwave anything, and the locations of all the food I made in advance, so you don't live off of ramen. You read it right? Any questions? Yuzu (continue grinning): Yes, no worries, it'll be perfect. 3 days later, SO comes back to a partially burned down kitchen due to someone burning the ramen. "What happened?!" The SO asks. The reply is In summary: we are all suckers for his grin. Edit: sorry if this offends anyone, I'm hoping some humor over his cooking ability (or lack of it) can bring some sunshine to this week.

I tried google and baidu translate. It seems like this site/newspaper/whatever? just went ahead and checked with a doctor, who helps athletes in general, who then made a general diagnosis of what might have happened based on the video of Yuzu's fall. The conclusion is pretty much what @AsteroidB-612 said before-treatment will vary blah blah blah, based on how severe it is blah blah blah. Anyways, ask a doctor a standard question, get a textbook answer seems to be the gist. Anyways, until we hear more from Yuzu's own doctors, or his med team, I'd just ignore most of these news. It'll just create undue drama, and mass panic if the newspapers are trying to go for the Yuzu has a career threatening injury angle (which politics being what it is, someone WILL). What with Olys on the horizon, mass hysteria is the last thing he needs to hear about.

Wait, we're going to have to write something like a user's agreement type of contract on an ema now? That's one huge ema, or we're going to need to splurge on a couple million emas. I thought healthy and happy covered everything.

Maybe he was thinking he could step out? Two foot? But that axis tilt was enough that I don't think he could have opted to pop.

@kaerb: I think that was me going off about how loop might be more troublesome than Lz, because the take off requires you to rely on your right leg more? But I also amended and mentioned that the way Yuzu goes into the lutz, with a very quick setup, he does have to flex and take more strength on his right foot perhaps, than other guys. My feeling, as to what happened after reading Gladi's translations, in contrast to his training session at CoR: - He gunned straight for the 4lz. Versus in COR, he tossed around a couple popped Lutzes to get his bearing and axis right. That popping lutzes allowed him to test around a bit, which is probably more crucial since the 4Lz is his first jump in the Long. Toss in a fever, not fully warmed up, pushing and gunning straight for the quad, and boom-disaster. His axis was so off, it's amazing he didn't land and cause more problems. - I think Brian stabilizes him, calms him down. Brian would have yanked him off the ice after that missed 4Lo, and they would have chatted, talked about what was wrong, what they should do next, should they do the 4Lz, how to work up to the 4Lz. That's the benefit of a main coach. Tracy may have been able to help too, but maybe not as effective as Brian. As for 4Lz itself: My feeling is still that Yuzu guns and puts too much energy into that 4Lz. He goes into it with just a bit more speed, a bit more power in all the times he's been off on the jump. I think he tries too hard to go for the Boyang or Mikhail type of large 4Lz, when in reality his Lutz is already plenty big. He really doesn't need to go 3.45m x 72 cm (which he wants to have), he can do enough with just 3.15m x 67 cm. Skating fans will say both jumps are huge, so he could just learn to live with that. I wonder if placing the 4Lz as a second jump or later on, would be better, just to distract him from nerves and gunning for it. T_T @gladi: I meant precisely what @xeyra said. Pin the fan banner for Yuzu as a separate topic or something to make it more visible. =) We need to make it a blanket size after all. =)

Oh definitely, but my bias is that it affects loop more, since loop take off depends more on the right leg and foot. But you are correct, now that I think of it, that Lutz would also be majorly effected, since the picking action for Yuzu would require him to flex more at the ankle and foot joint region to launch, and his rather fast takeoff might be more straining than the "messy taps" slow setup combo other guys have. We'll see, because we know he'd want both jumps back, and will be drowning in Extra-Strong-KuyashiiTM if he has to go to Olys without either.