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[TV Broadcast] NHK Documentary

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There was never going to be recovery footage. He didn't hide his condition and kept everyone quiet - having Brian say he doesn't want to get in trouble for revealing too much - only to have actual footage of himself a week before he set foot on ice in Pyeongchang.

 

And yes, way too much Shoma and Nathan, but that is the narrative. The young kids vs. the injured hero. Image wise it works well for Yuzu, though he'd hate it. If he wins, it'll be extra wow with how much they down played him. If he doesn't it'll be ""well, he was injured, while the kids kept making progress." I'm more annoyed by the lack of context. Yes, Nathan won CoR, but his FS didn't win over Seimei. He only won because of the freak fall in the SP. And Shoma didn't come so close at Worlds only through his own abilities, but also because of Yuzu's very small, but very costly mistakes in the SP. IMO, that really puts things into perspective.

 

Also, personally, I'm happy with the more detailed NHK footage, because it really shows how he works. Initially trying to work through it, then ask for help, then try to work through it again, before finally sense kicked in and he called it quits. The way he was nodding to Ghislain before going back on the ice was like his nodding to Brian at CoC, when Brian was telling him he doesn't have to be a hero. A "Yeah, yeah, whatever" kind of nod, with little to no eye contact, that, to me, means he's not listening. NHK was, to me, him falling back into his old habits and I think it might have been a very painful, but important lesson for him this season. Without it, he might have continued taking risks if such situations arose elsewhere and that might have been worse.

 

Anyway, I think we just had too high expectations for this documentary. (I did however, like the contrast between lots of Shoma and Nathan footage and Yuzu in 10 words saying quite essentially he doesn't care what others are doing. It kind of emphasized HIS attitude.)

3 minutes ago, LadyLou said:

I'm VERY disappointed in NHK

It's ok to show nhk and the fall, it makes all more apparent what kind of mountain Yuzu got to climb these past months...but the whole "in the meanwhile his competitors are doing great" (which is not necessarily that true) really leaves a bitter taste. Heck, I thought this doc could be a lifesaver till next week, but it feels more as if they were just saying bye bye and watching you drown:smiley-angry020:

(and by the way, I understand the Shoma hype, but why do they like Nathan so much? Did they like Patrick that much in the quad after Vancouver? :confused:)

To be fair, they didn't have too much by way of padding runtime, especially after the NNN docu had already shown most of the 'new old' footage... the only thing they had that was new was the NHK extended practice footage. They can't exactly say 'he'll be ABSOLUTE FINE' w/o any evidence. Let's try to give them the benefit of the doubt I suppose, Nathan and Shoma were making comments on Yuzu's condition so it wasn't as though they were only hyping them up. It's natural for them to feature Nathan since he's basically the 'champion' right now.

 

Let's just focus on cheering Yuzu on. 

hace 1 minuto , kaeryth said:

Well, at least cats liked the documentary?

 

Cats like Yuzu :kitty:

I'm mostly annoyed at them even making a documentary run that long when they don't have much to use in it. It's really only made to bring in ratings, nothing more. It's nothing they couldn't just include in a general documentary for the men's event at the Olympics, instead of presenting it as a Yuzu documentary. 

 

All apologies to Nathan, it's not his fault even Japan hypes him as the second coming (I'd understand if they focused more on Shoma as their best hope since he's at least Japanese and holds the best scores this season), while presenting Yuzu in a vulnerable situation. It just triggers all my protective instincts towards my fave. 

2 minutes ago, xeyra said:

I'm mostly annoyed at them even making a documentary run that long when they don't have much to use in it. It's really only made to bring in ratings, nothing more. It's nothing they couldn't just include in a general documentary for the men's event at the Olympics, instead of presenting it as a Yuzu documentary. 

 

All apologies to Nathan, it's not his fault even Japan hypes him as the second coming (I'd understand if they focused more on Shoma as their best hope since he's at least Japanese and holds the best scores this season), while presenting Yuzu in a vulnerable situation. It just triggers all my protective instincts towards my fave. 

The boyang erasure...and I thought Boyang had a slight fanbase in Japan? And then Javi erasure, when Javi actually beat Shoma at IdF (thought not ideal or clean either).  I want my boys to come back with a vengance.

I also disagree that the documentary was randomly put together without much sense. They started from what was, essentially the central point: the injury and how it happened. Then they went through the whole season, but also included slight asides about previous, similar struggles Yuzu has had, like getting his quads the first time around. It didn't seem very random to me, at all. (Not like that NYT article back then did, for example).

 

3 minutes ago, xeyra said:

I'm mostly annoyed at them even making a documentary run that long when they don't have much to use in it. It's really only made to bring in ratings, nothing more. It's nothing they couldn't just include in a general documentary for the men's event at the Olympics, instead of presenting it as a Yuzu documentary. 

 

All apologies to Nathan, it's not his fault even Japan hypes him as the second coming (I'd understand if they focused more on Shoma as their best hope since he's at least Japanese and holds the best scores this season), while presenting Yuzu in a vulnerable situation. It just triggers all my protective instincts towards my fave. 

 

It's a series of documentaries on Olympic Athletes - yesterday I stumbled upon one on ski jumping (it might have been Noriaki Kasai, but I only saw half a second of the opening, so no idea). It would have been extraordinarily awkward to leave out Yuzu of all people.

hace 3 minutos , xeyra said:

I'd understand if they focused more on Shoma as their best hope since he's at least Japanese and holds the best scores this season

They do, with those articles about Shoma having bigger jumps.

 

According to this documentary Javi and Boyang don't exist at all in the figure skating world.

5 minutes ago, xeyra said:

I'm mostly annoyed at them even making a documentary run that long when they don't have much to use in it. It's really only made to bring in ratings, nothing more. It's nothing they couldn't just include in a general documentary for the men's event at the Olympics, instead of presenting it as a Yuzu documentary. 

 

All apologies to Nathan, it's not his fault even Japan hypes him as the second coming (I'd understand if they focused more on Shoma as their best hope since he's at least Japanese and holds the best scores this season), while presenting Yuzu in a vulnerable situation. It triggers all my protective instincts towards my fave. 

They know he brings in the views and clicks, it's a business decision, what can you do. but to be fair, it's only old news to us because we follow every single update, it's probably helpful to people who are just realising 'oh hey, the Olympics are starting soon' to understand what happened to Yuzu.

 

Just a small sidenote, the documentary takes a rather factual approach to Nathan coverage, they just explain what his jumps are and his results. They could afford to be more nuanced about how he got those scores but JP documentaries tend to just be a 'here's the thing, let me explain the thing, ok done' instead of being too biased/opinionated or trying to tell a storyline.  They're hyping up the ~intensity of the competition~ but not Nathan individually as much as maybe it tends to come across? 

Yep! I think the fact that they hyped it up as a Yuzu documentary was what was upsetting. Instead of repeating NHK'17 footage again and again, they could've added Boyang, Javi, Mikhail, and even PChan and talked about how deep the field is now and how unpredictable the podium for Pyeonchang is compared to Sochi.

1 minute ago, Xen said:

The boyang erasure...and I thought Boyang had a slight fanbase in Japan? And then Javi erasure, when Javi actually beat Shoma at IdF (thought not ideal or clean either).  I want my boys to come back with a vengance.

 

Yeah, that too. I realize I would have been far less annoyed at them if they had highlighted more OGM contenders, like Boyang (the true quad generation instigator) and Javi, an actual 2-time World Champion, instead of focusing so much on Nathan. We have enough USA media doing that, is it too much to ask for a more balanced approach to the men?

Just now, kaerb said:

They know he brings in the views and clicks, it's a shoddy business decision :dry: but to be fair, it's only old news to us because we follow every single update, it's probably helpful to people who are just realising 'oh hey, the Olympics are starting soon' to understand what happened to Yuzu.

 

Just a small sidenote, the documentary takes a rather factual approach to Nathan coverage, they just explain what his jumps are and his results. They could afford to be more nuanced about how he got those scores but JP documentaries tend to just be a 'here's the thing, let me explain the thing, ok done' instead of being too biased/opinionated or trying to tell a storyline.  They're hyping up the ~intensity of the competition~ but not Nathan individually as much as maybe it tends to come across? 

Also, they actually pointed out that Yuzu's fewer quads are so much better quality that Nathan's many quads, so Nathan had to bring even more quads. Yes, they said Nathan and Shoma are improving quality wise - which IMO, may be true, but they still have a LONG way to go - and didn't emphasize Yuzu is still better, but it's still kind of obvious.

3 minutes ago, kaerb said:

They know he brings in the views and clicks, it's a business decision, what can you do. but to be fair, it's only old news to us because we follow every single update, it's probably helpful to people who are just realising 'oh hey, the Olympics are starting soon' to understand what happened to Yuzu.

 

Just a small sidenote, the documentary takes a rather factual approach to Nathan coverage, they just explain what his jumps are and his results. They could afford to be more nuanced about how he got those scores but JP documentaries tend to just be a 'here's the thing, let me explain the thing, ok done' instead of being too biased/opinionated or trying to tell a storyline.  They're hyping up the ~intensity of the competition~ but not Nathan individually as much as maybe it tends to come across? 

 

1 minute ago, KatjaThera said:

Also, they actually pointed out that Yuzu's fewer quads are so much better quality that Nathan's many quads, so Nathan had to bring even more quads. Yes, they said Nathan and Shoma are improving quality wise - which IMO, may be true, but they still have a LONG way to go - and didn't emphasize Yuzu is still better, but it's still kind of obvious.

 

This is when not understanding Japanese kind of gives me an overrall impression that might not match reality. Thank you for the clarification. 

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