Gio Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, mcq said: About flamenco, I think the actual paso doble/flamenco posture is not really suitable to be applied in FS where you feel that your hip is very lifted and high (man I am bad at explaining this, so I hope you get what I meant, basically the line from torso down not torso up/upper body), so maybe that is why many feel that something is missing (as in the skater only adopt the character from torso up + hand movement). Another one is paso doble movement is kind of in a staccato count quite many of the times, so for something that is supposed to be fluid and flowing like FS, it could take away a bit of the character unless you choreograph it smartly. But I actually like mura's attempt at flamenco :3 I think I got what you meant, and I do agree, that's part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcq Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Gio said: I think I got what you meant, and I do agree, that's part of it. Haha yeah :) I don't know about you but at least that is what the pet peeves was for me. As for tango, since there are many types of tango, I would say I haven't seen a good interpretation of the standard ballroom/american standard one, and the argentine version are more difficult to translate into FS imo. Though I can't speak for the other type of tangos because there are like 234887687 version of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 23 minutes ago, mcq said: Haha yeah :) I don't know about you but at least that is what the pet peeves was for me. As for tango, since there are many types of tango, I would say I haven't seen a good interpretation of the standard ballroom/american standard one, and the argentine version are more difficult to translate into FS imo. Though I can't speak for the other type of tangos because there are like 234887687 version of it Yep, it just doesn't feel really balanced to me, like there's too much of a difference between upper body movement and lower body. It's probably a kind of music that isn't easy to adapt to figure skating, as you said, a program requires a certain flow that would probably be difficult to obtain if they sticked to the music more. As for tango(s), I liked some, did not like others. But it's usually a kind of music that I don't like to see for programs in most cases xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanbeau Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 wakaba has said that for next season she'll go with programs that highlight her strength more, which is her speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 1 hour ago, swanbeau said: wakaba has said that for next season she'll go with programs that highlight her strength more, which is her speed The first time I watched her performance was at 2015's JWC. She was literally flying on the iceso impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiroKJ Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Keiji's interview w/ sports yahoo. https://sports.yahoo.co.jp/column/detail/201705150006-spnavi?p=2 He mentioned the Olympics, his future in the sport, + a few things about Yuzu/Hino and the relationship between the 3 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeyra Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 4 hours ago, ShiroKJ said: Keiji's interview w/ sports yahoo. https://sports.yahoo.co.jp/column/detail/201705150006-spnavi?p=2 He mentioned the Olympics, his future in the sport, + a few things about Yuzu/Hino and the relationship between the 3 of them. Translation of the interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomanon Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 thanks for the link! the interview looks pretty interesting :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obscurite Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I wonder if it's an actual program? or maybe just an exhibition..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yatagarasu Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 If I remember well, Stephane helped polish up Shoma's FSprogram so maybe that again plus an EX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomanon Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Yeah, I think I recall somewhere Shoma mentioned he wanted his coach to choreo his competition programs... So if Lambiel is helping Shoma with his competition programs, it's probably to polish them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanbeau Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 looks like wakaba will be including 3A in her free skate! http://www.goldenskate.com/2017/05/wakaba-higuchi-2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, swanbeau said: looks like wakaba will be including 3A in her free skate! http://www.goldenskate.com/2017/05/wakaba-higuchi-2/ Mm, I would have liked it if she tried it in SP too, I guess it isn't that consistent yet. I hope they won't go for programs that highlight her speed only. That would be a step back imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanbeau Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, Gio said: Mm, I would have liked it if she tried it in SP too, I guess it isn't that consistent yet. I hope they won't go for programs that highlight her speed only. That would be a step back imo. yeah i thought she will also put it in the SP, but apparantly she's only been training it seriously since last year so i guess it's still not that stable. even when she focused on the emotional/choreo part this season she's still fast... maybe they just wanna use it to grab the judges attention? i just hope they will strategize carefully and smartly because i still havent trust her team that much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 3 hours ago, swanbeau said: yeah i thought she will also put it in the SP, but apparantly she's only been training it seriously since last year so i guess it's still not that stable. even when she focused on the emotional/choreo part this season she's still fast... maybe they just wanna use it to grab the judges attention? i just hope they will strategize carefully and smartly because i still havent trust her team that much Her team doesn't seem to know what to do with all her talent. Her layouts are usually a suicide...so I hope "want to highlight speed" won't mean empty programs tbh. Imo her programs this year were good enough, they showed her growth a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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