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Saitama 2014 EX ESP ita commentary ^^ http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x4m6ub_elechicca_wc2014-saitama/1#video=x4lyfig [Angelo talks about pairs and says how one chinese pair will be among top contenders for the Olympic gold medal] M: And speaking of an Olympic gold medalist, Yuzuru Hanyu. A: From a pair who is bound to r****, to someone who might dominate the field for many years to come, considering his age. M: 4 accomplishments during the season: complete supremacy at the GPF, victory at the national championships, held in this rink, winner of the Olympic title, and as a topping, a world title in his own country. It was impossible, to do better. Finally! A: And do you remember this one? M: For me this is the most beautiful of Hanyu’s free programs. Let’s watch this in reverent silence. [after the EX] A: Simply amazing. M: Well, we have to go back to this program, skated in Nice in 2012. With this program, with a sublime performance, Yuzuru managed to win the bronze medal [literal: this program skated in a sublime way allowed Yuzuru to win the bronze medal], behind Daisuke Takahashi, and for the first time in history we saw two japanese men on the podium. That was the start of Yuzuru Hanyu’s true story, because that program is remembered by everyone; it moved us to tears, it gave us goosebumps, truthfully it was even better than this year’s FP. A: Yes, yes, I agree. The only thing I need to say is that sometimes I still go back to rewatch it, and it still touches me to this day, just as it did then. I still have clear in my mind Yuzuru’s bewildered expression after he reached the end of it, with so much determination, while everybody stood to applaud him obviously…and after a couple of seconds he started crying, just as he realised that he had skated an exceptional program. In fact a sensational score soon followed, a score that allowed him to complete his comeback and make it to the podium. M: Yes, he was seventh after the short program, quite far behind from third place. A: Yes, truly amazing. I have to be honest, I still have goosebumps thinking about it now. M: But talking about Yuzuru Hanyu’s signature programs, there’s another, one that he has skated excellently in the last two years. Maybe he hasn’t skated it so well at this WC, but still. A: One of the few times though. And this is the short program he used in the last two seasons: Parisienne Walkways, a short program that allowed him to break world record after world record. [after PW] M: Well, Mao Asada gave us a lot during her long career…it’s difficult to tell who’s the true main character of these world championships, between her and Hanyu. Let’s put them on the same level, they’re two aces, fantastic. A: yes, aboslutely. True, Hanyu did not manage to do his best in the short program, but it was followed by a textbook free. And anyway, this short program at the Olympics reached an amazing score, let’s not forget, over 100 points. Something that we could have not even imagined until a couple of years ago. Continues here (x) I translated the first 30 seconds, because I found them quite…interesting. M: And the next goal is to reach 300 points. A: Total score. M: Yes, exactly. And he can truly reach it, because in the short program he has already gone over 100, in the free he has already achieved more than 100 of TES and he can easily reach 95 points of PCS. If we put it all together, and he skates a perfect free, we’re well over 300. A: Incredible. He’s truly a skater from another planet.

I don't know il someone has already posted it, but here https://mobile.twitter.com/goldenboots125/status/868879073560281088/video/1 there's a short clip of Yuna Shiraiwa trying 3A in harness. Can't see the landing, but happy to see that she's well :3

Apparently the SP will be "modern"...Debussy is a safe choice for her, yep.

Carolina Kostner will recycle an old FS music, Afternoon of a faun, by Debussy :)

Ok it helps. A bit. I just hope it won't be a warhorse. I mean, no Malagueña or Carmen please? /.\ Massimo you betrayed me there XD I honestly don't know who could do it. Yes Satoko could be second at NHK but that's it if she's back on track and if she's perfect etc etc so a lot of ifs. At SA she has very little chance to win, they'll try to bury her alive. And with some ladies turning senior, and all of them with tons of potential, making it to the final will be no joke. On one hand I'm really excited for the upcoming ladies, but this is suicide from the JSF c.c

It has improved so much *w* much more height than the one she did at jgp, and rotation and speed are O.O It's good that she grew a bit and the jump improved instead of becoming worse, sounds promising for the future.

https://twitter.com/moekihira_812/status/868610522802823169

Exactly. If you look at her scores she was pretty much robbed on pcs at nationals. The last national championships were actually pretty unfair to all the younger girls. Marin got lower PCS than Kanako I think? And that's...

It seems like flamenco or tango from that photo, I really have problems with that kind of music. But I'm just waiting for Joey to pop up and squeal :PPP like, guys they invited Evgenia to NHK, i mean. Nothing else to say XD

Apparently Massimo Scali choreographed Wakaba's SP :) http://higuchi-wakaba.tumblr.com/post/161131402391/massimo-scali-has-choreographed-a-new-sp-for#notes Seems like I'll hate the music xD

Io personalmente non sono contenta di rivivere un secondo anno olimpico come 2013-2014, mi sembra un passo indietro...ma se almeno mi mette il 4lz nel Free posso conviverci...

Yes Wakaba has tons of talent there. It would seem wise to push her. But it seems pretty obvious they decided to throw them all in the tank and see who will come out of it.

Yes exactly. Satoko also seems to have reached her peak scores. I mean she is consistent and all, but she reached 215-218 when the panel was pretty generous. Wakaba and Mai have more room for growth imho. And Mai is quite consistent. And the one who will reach the final has many chances to win a spot for the olympics. Especially if they score nationals like last year tbh. Idk JSF is always puzzling.

That might pretty much backfire tbh. Let's be honest, Japanese ladies aren't really consistent, Mai and Satoko aside, and they're not really used to the sink or swim environment like the Russian ladies, so all this pressure might do more bad than good. They'll have to be in peak condition all season and I'm not really sure that's going to work for them. Honestly, I get that Satoko is their n.1 but I'm even more puzzled because they never treated her as such, and to do so now when they actually have alternatives is pretty confusing.

I agree. About Satoko having easier events I mean. I really don't get why Marin/Wakaba/Mai all at COC it's simply stupid. Give that assignment to Kaori or Yuna S, the former TdF and and NHK were better. Switch one with Yuna at NHK or Kaori at SA, and would have been already much better.

I did not expect them to have a good strategy considering how bad JSF does at jgp with that too, but...COC is a suicide. Especially when girls with 0 chances like Rika or Yuna S have good assignments. Really doesnt make sense at all. Even Satoko isnt that safe tbh, SA is a pretty packed event and with Med at NHK she wont win there.

È certa, Shirota stessa ha dichiarato che Chopin è stato ripreso in quanto miglior programma del quadriennio, e ora come ora "they need to make things happen", ovvero essere pragmatici in vista olimpica, direi. Il layout è 4lo / 3A 4T3T

After the GP announcement, what do you all think about japanese ladies' assignments? Seems likely that only one of them will qualify considering their assignments y.y

low quality video of Wakaba at PIW https://www.instagram.com/p/BUQiwzPlG4R/ :) I'm not sure a better one exist or if we'll ever get it?

Don't know if someone already said it, but Mirai is keeping her Chopin SP and the new LP should be choregraphed by Buttle too :)

Saitama 2014 FS Esp Ita commentary http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4lfayq_yh-wc14-fs-esp-ita_sport M: Hanyu reached a score higher than Machida’s only once in his career. In the GPF final at Fukuoka, when he reached 193,41…scores so huge, it intimidates us just to speak about it. A: Yes and he truly needs a performance like that; it’s difficult to think that he might overcome Machida, it’s clear that these two can try, but they’re the only ones. M: And now it’s time for the most anticipated athlete, Yuzuru Hanyu, current olympic champion, the one who dominated the Grand Prix Final and the Japanese national champioships, which I mentioned because they took place right here. A: In Saitama, venue of this WC. Hanyu is the olympic gold medalist, so he’s been obviously much anticipated. M: Let’s lay our cards on the table: the best Hanyu, the one who manages to stay on his feet from start to finish, without mistakes, wins the title, he could do it. The Hanyu we saw in the short program and in the olympic free skate wouldn’t be enough. A: Right. The first salchow is very, very important…he rarely lands it. 4S! Maybe he’s never done it that well. 4T! 3F. 3A3T…but with some problems on the landing. Marvelous second 3A, done in combination with a 2T. Beautiful 3Lo. 3LzLo3S! Incredible, in spite of a terrible landing on the lutz. The second 3Lz was beautifully executed. Last spin. Which is the combination spin, after the flying sit spin. We’ve already reached 97,96…the meter’s running! Some problems on this flying entry, he might not reach level 4, but he should reach the level 3 and it should be enough to go over 100 in the TES. M: 101,49 - A: He’s exhausted! M: He reached 102,03 in the GPF…this is an ace. Because today he had his back against the wall. A: Yes. We’ve never seen a better 4s from him, he had to fight, it wasn’t that competition in which everything is easy. He’s tired, exhausted, but he fought through it. I’d like to see again 3LzLo3S, because listen, he landed forward, he was still and yet he did the loop, the euler, and then 3S, from a standstill. Impressive. M: And have you noticed that that single loop is called as underrotated more often than not…but for how the jump itself is done, if you think about it. A: Yeah, obviously, because of the takeoff and the landing, it often needs to lack something, sorry for lack of a better word, to attach the 3S after it. M: Angelo, let’s discuss this, here we have 100 of TES, well 101 to be precise. And this Hanyu should receive about 92-93 PCS. Total 193-194, to be clear Machida would be overtaken. [literally something like annihilated. It’s hard to translate this from Italian. Kind of the equivalent to a figurative “bye Machida”] A: He’s at risk, because how much does he [Hanyu] need, 191? There should be those 191 points. Let’s see. The TES slightly went down. (while Max is talking he says “still over 100″) M: He obviously needs the TES not to go down, if it keeps going down Machida’s chances will be higher. A: [4S on replay] look at the quad salchow, how reactive he was to land it. M: I have to say that, by watching videos from practice, he was landing quads easily. But then practice and competition are different things. A: Yes of course. The 4T was beautiful, fantastic as usual. M: It isn’t the highest TES ever reached, because Patrick Chan reached 100,25, and Hanyu himself has reached a 102,03. It keeps going down. A: I think it’s because of the GOE, because it keeps going down, but slowly. Many elements did not have an excellent grade of execution after all. Look here. M: He’s at risk then, because now PCS will be tricky. He has to be over 92, around 92. A: Look, look here…3Lz. Ah no, don’t mind this is the solo 3Lz. Yes the solo one. Well, it was still an astounding performance. M: Yeah, nothing to say about that. You can only bow, because everything was against him today. A: Yeah, it was extremely difficult, he gave everything he had and he ended without much energy left in him. He had trouble standing, but he truly gave his all. M: Let’s remember that the Grand Slam was completeted only by Alexei Yagudin, GP, Olympic games and World Championships. Yagudin even won the European games, obviously Hanyu did not enter the 4CC. He’s alone, because Brian Orser is still besides the rink - A: Javier Fernandez M: The next one is one of his [pupils]. A: Let’s say that he has a nice little squad in the men’s field. M: Yes. And he might do the sweep, senior world title and junior world title. With the Olympic games as the topping. A: It’s enough, enough - M: By how much? A: Cents, about..20 cents, he’s in first now. M: I was thinking about 92, but 91,42 was enough in the end. A: And look at how he’s jumping! And with good reason, he managed to overcome a fantastic Machida and now we’ll have to see if Fernadez will be able to overcome the two Japanese. It’s not easy, not at all. M: But he can just try.

She's got potential, hopefully she'll fix her UR problems...anyway, with Marin and Kaori going senior we'll probably see her in jgp next year :) Junior girls are really interesting next season will actually be more interesting for juniors rather than seniors, in a way c.c

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BI6OzBbyo9g same channel there's the FS too. :) i actually see Moa as the least likely to land a 4S, she has problems with URs. If someone is interested, apparently Rika Kihira landed 4S in training, multiple times. My bb

London 2013 FP ESP Ita commentary ^^ http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x469w57_yh-wc13-fs-esp-ita_sport <--- video there M: Today everything’s against him, but we are talking about an ace, an athlete that was probably born to dominate in the years to come. If I were the ISU, international skating union, I’d recalculate the scoring system based on him. We’ll see what he manages to do today, but everything is against him. Here we go; until now these world championships haven’t been amazing for Brian Orser’s pupils. [mentions Elene Gedevanishvili] There were some problems for Fernandez and problems for Hanyu. The current standing is wrong, Hanyu isn’t in first, he ended up sitting in ninth position after the short program. A: Yes, a very disappointing ninth position, but we can expect anything…fingers crossed obviously, let’s hope we’ll see a great performance, this is an exceptional athlete, his talent is crystal clear, but at the moment he isn’t at his best. M: NDP, very popular music this season. A: By Cocciante. 4T! 4S, not perfect, the rotation might be under review. 3F. 3A3T. 3A2T! 3Lo. 3Lz2T2T. 3Lz! M: But how can you not applaud for something like this. Last year’s RJ gave us goosebumps, but today I appreciated this program as much as last season’s [program], incredible. Extraordinary, because with his current physical condition…look, he’s hurting as hell - A: He’s not well, he’s in pain and I don’t know if you noticed but he simplified some details of his spins - he had planned a flying entry on the sit spin, on his next to last spin, the combination spin, but it was probably pertaining to his injured leg, so he got rid of that. He’ll obviously lose a level there, but he did the right thing. He looked to be suffering in a few moments during the program, but he gritted his teeth and performed like a true champion, with some bad landings, but he managed to stay on his feet…he completed- he attempted two quads, the salchow under review, he completed the toe, two triple axels, two triple lutz in the second half, he truly fought like a champion. And now we’re witnessing his emotions…we could have not asked more from him today. M: Six triples in the second half, two of them triple axels right? A: And two 3lz. M: Amazing. A: A toeloop and a rittberger, truly difficult, difficult to do better- M: [4t on replay] no problem here, the rotation is complete.. A: And look at that landing, look at how he bent [his knee] he’s not new to this kind of landing. M: And the jump is worth positive GOE. Here [4s on replay] we are- A: could be underrotated; it might lack just about one quarter of rotation, but it’s not important. It’s honestly difficult to think that he might win, because he’s really far from Chan, but he can gain a few positions, and it’s important to secure three spots for Japan. M: Yes but those are a lock, this is a program that should score more than 170 points. A: Incredible. M: With two quads, two 3As and two 3Lz - and the last four in the second half, he won’t be far from 90 points of TES. A: No, right. M: True, today he’ll loose something on his spins…I’d be generous for PCS; we skated this program with him, he truly managed to get us all involved. A: Yes, he truly poured his heart in it, he gave everything…he lacked some speed if compared to other performances, he slowed down in the second half, but he wasn’t 100%, maybe not even 80, today. M: He got 85,16 PCS in the GPF A: Which is a lot. M: His best TES is 92, from worlds last year. [after the score] I expected something more, I expected above 90 of TES and…82-83 PCS. 169 and not the 175 he could have hoped for. Well, 244,99 is a score that I don’t know how many could reach. And he’s limping. A: And that’s scary. He reached an excellent score in a precarious condition.

Concordo, 4lo3t. Una combinazione con il loop non è solo rischiosa a livello fisico, ma in genere è anche più difficile che siano perfettamente ruotate. Penso che lui potrebbe fare comodamente combinazioni con il loop con l'axel, come 3a3lo, ma non penso andrebbe a rischiare 4lo3lo. Mi ricordo che a un galà (forse gpf? Devo riguardare) aveva provato 4t3t3lo, ma nelle practice ormai fa di peggio XD