sallycinnamon Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Welcome to our thread for discussing Juniors and all the events of the 2020/21 season beginning with: * UPDATE (20 July): Cancellation of the 2020/21 Junior Grand Prix Series * Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating 2020/21 The 24th season of a series of junior international competitions organized by the International Skating Union. Following the cancellation of the first two Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Events that were to have been held in Canada and Slovak Republic, the Council approved the application from Riga / LAT to host a Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Event. The revised ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Series will therefore be as follows: Date Event Location Other Notes September 9-12 JGP Hungary Budapest / HUN September 16-19 JGP Japan Yokohama / JPN Cancelled September 23-26 JGP Czech Republic Ostrava / CZE + Pairs September 20-October 3 JGP Uzbekistan Tashkent / UZB + Pairs October 7-10 JGP Slovenia Lljubljana / SLO October 14-17 JGP Latvia Riga / LAT + Pairs Skaters who reach the age of 13 by July 1, 2020 but have not turned 19 (singles and females of the other two disciplines) or 21 (male pair skaters and ice dancers) are eligible to compete in the JGP. The number of entries allotted to each Federation is determined by their skaters' placements at the 2020 World Junior Championships and the Federations themselves choose their representatives. Skaters/Couples entered for an event of the ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating may not participate in the same discipline of an event of the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating (senior) in the same season. Points are awarded based on placement in an event. First place in singles brings 15 points, second 13, third 11 points, fourth 9, fifth 7, sixth 5, seventh 4, eighth 3, ninth 2 and tenth 1. First place in pairs and ice dance brings 15 points, second 13, third 11 points, fourth 9, fifth 7, sixth 5. Top 6 ranking in all disciplines will qualify for the JGPF. TECHNICAL DETAILS According to ISU Communication 2312 the Pattern Dances for Juniors will not be changed for Season 2020/21, and the requirements for the Short Program as specified in the Single and Pair Skating Technical Rules 611 and 620 for season 2020/21 will be valid. Junior Skaters have specific requirements in their Short Programs/Rhythm Dances. The Junior Short Program/Rhythm Dance shall consist of the following required elements: Junior Men: Double or triple Axel Paulsen Double or triple Lutz jump Jump combination consisting of a double and a triple jump or two triple jumps Flying camel spin Sit spin with only one change of foot Spin combination with only one change of foot Step sequence fully utilizing the ice surface. Junior Ladies: Double Axel Paulsen Double or triple Lutz jump immediately Jump combination consisting of two double jumps or one double and one triple jump or two triple jumps Flying camel spin Layback / sideways leaning spin or sit spin without change of foot Spin combination with only one change of foot Step sequence fully utilizing the ice surface. Junior Pairs: Any hip lift take-off (Group Three) Twist lift (double or triple) Double or triple loop throw jump Double Lutz or double Axel solo jump Solo spin combination with only one change of foot Death spiral forward inside Step sequence fully utilizing the ice surface Details for Jr. Men, Ladies and Pairs here in Rule 611 and 620. Junior Ice Dance (details here): Music: Musical and/or Operetta plus one additional rhythm (Quickstep, Blues, March, Polka, Foxtrot, Swing, Charleston, Waltz) One Short Lift: Short Lifts are max 7 seconds One Step Sequence in Hold or Not Touching or Combination of both (Style B) chosen from the following types of pattern: Midline or Diagonal One Set of Sequential Twizzles: at least two Twizzles for each partner, up to 1 step between Twizzles Pattern Dance Requirement: Two (2) Sections of Tea Time Foxtrot, skated one after the other. Junior Well Balanced Program: A well balanced Free Skating program for Men must contain: maximum of 7 jump elements (one of which must be an Axel type jump); maximum of 3 spins, one of which must be a spin combination, one a flying spin or a spin with a flying entrance and one a spin with only one position; maximum of 1 step sequence. A well balanced Free Skating program for Ladies must contain: maximum of 7 jump elements (one of which must be an Axel type jump); maximum of 3 spins, one of which must be a spin combination, one a flying spin or a spin with a flying entrance and one a spin with only one position; maximum of 1 step sequence. A Junior Well Balanced Program for Pairs must contain: maximum of 2 lifts, not all from the same group with full extension of the lifting arm/s; maximum of 1 twist lift; maximum of 2 different throw jumps; maximum of 1 solo jump; maximum of 1 jump combination or sequence; maximum of 1 pair spin combination; maximum of 1 death spiral; maximum of 1 choreographic sequence. Any additional element or elements exceeding the prescribed numbers will not be counted in the result of a pair. Only the first attempt (or allowed number of attempts) of an element will be taken into account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallycinnamon Posted June 30, 2020 Author Share Posted June 30, 2020 I don't know if we'll have a JGP Season and if yes, in what form...but I have opened a new thread with the informations about competitions and technical details as of now because we always open a thread around this time of the year! ISU will give us more information regarding the JGP after the meeting of Council on 6th July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SitTwizzle Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Thank you! What does "immediately" mean for the Ladies' Lutz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fay Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Does that put paid to the JGP series? Or will they scramble to find yet another European/Central Asian harbour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SitTwizzle Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Fay said: Does that put paid to the JGP series? Or will they scramble to find yet another European/Central Asian harbour? Technically, I tend to think a reduced JGP (and GP too) could be maintained with as little as 3 trophies and the final, accepting 8 finalists for instance for each category, and with only one assignment allowed per skater. If only successful South Korea (4CC without contamination + whole management of the epidemic) could manage to hold additional events... I know it wouldn't be easy but it would make an Eastern Asian location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EisElle Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 idk how they can even make JGP work if skaters won't be free to travel internationally by then, and without mandatory quarantine... it's true that right now Europe isn't the worst hit continent anymore and is lifting some travel restictions within its borders and to/from some Countries, so I could see e.g. European skaters travelling within Europe to attend a JGP (of course, if current situation holds). (I'm not familiar with situation in Uzbekistan, where the only non-european JGP is being held) But skaters from other continents still need to be able to cross borders, or they'll de-facto be excluded from JGP and not by their own choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Have all the skater build their own individual skating rinks to quarantine in and let them spend two weeks after travelling to JGP events there. oh, and provide every single skater at the event with their own skating rink too. this is just mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SitTwizzle Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 I think it is possible to have a contest if "special quarantine rules" are accepted, with assigned hotel, secured transfers and a rather normal practice. And risk would be virtually zeroed if in addition to this, people could be admitted into this regimen only if their predictive biological data are good (C, D and K vitamins, T-cells). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paskud Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, SitTwizzle said: I think it is possible to have a contest if "special quarantine rules" are accepted, with assigned hotel, secured transfers and a rather normal practice. And risk would be virtually zeroed if in addition to this, people could be admitted into this regimen only if their predictive biological data are good (C, D and K vitamins, T-cells). These quarantine rules are for a good reason. Bending them would endanger health or even life of many people. No practice possible outside what you can do in your room. After 2 weeks like that no athlete is in shape to compete. Besides, bookmarking hotel for 3 weeks for around 130 skaters + their coaches + other memebers of their teams + ISU officials? Sounds hard to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Now what do we do if there are no competitions until 2021? Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercedes Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 maybe there still hope....but just in case we must go FS-less until next year maybe some silly thing like your fave FS moment?with video or pic?it's nice because I always discover new programs this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paskud Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Fay said: Now what do we do if there are no competitions until 2021? Any ideas? Well, Japan still wants to do regionals and sectionals (without audience). We will get only protocols, but that will be probably the most exciting events in next few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, mercedes said: maybe there still hope....but just in case we must go FS-less until next year maybe some silly thing like your fave FS moment?with video or pic?it's nice because I always discover new programs this way. Yeah, we’re going to dig deep then. Will watch some ancient stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EisElle Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 On 7/3/2020 at 9:35 PM, Paskud said: Well, Japan still wants to do regionals and sectionals (without audience). We will get only protocols, but that will be probably the most exciting events in next few months. what is worse, to know that nothing happens or to know *something* happens but you don't get to see it? Well, of course this is the dilemma of FS-deprived audience, skaters would certainly prefer to be able to compete. But maybe media could be so nice to give us some more crumbs than usual. I don't ask for anything diffficult, just one fixed camera placed in one corner that shows the rink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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